Having been lucky enough to walk below deck on Nelsons flagship HMS Victory, I hope Spoz is not to tall !Spoz sailed with Nelson at Trafalgar.
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Having been lucky enough to walk below deck on Nelsons flagship HMS Victory, I hope Spoz is not to tall !Spoz sailed with Nelson at Trafalgar.
Don't ya mean with Themistocles at Salamis?Spoz sailed with Nelson at Trafalgar.
Now we won’t have that sort of talk here!Is this from the days when you separated the men from the the boys with crowbars
Leave the boys with the men?Now we won’t have that sort of talk here!
183 cms; and I have served in Victory …… although not, I hasten to add, in 1805. (Victory was, and maybe still is, the nominal posting for those working in places like the Dockyard in Portsmouth). We lived in HMS Nelson, though.Having been lucky enough to walk below deck on Nelsons flagship HMS Victory, I hope Spoz is not to tall !
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Never understood this level of surprise, like gay people were only invented in the 80s ? Just because cultural norms have changed over the years and certain types of behaviour were considered taboo didn't mean they stopped existing. There were at least 2 gay guys on my first draft on Perth and no-one cared as it didn't affect their job performance. The RAN was also the first major employer in Australia to recognise same sex defacto relationships in the 90s. Same issue with women at sea, despite how poorly the RAN handled the implementation (the disastrous DE deployment and subsequent 60 Minutes expose) the workforce adapted and after the old guard paid off it's now considered completely normal. The only constant in life is change, it's how you evolve and adapt to it that matters. It's natural to be resistant, but nothing some critical thinking and analysis can't overcome.“Rum, buggery and the lash” (Churchill) was the RN, the RAN never had either rum or the lash. There may have been a bit of the other, but it was frowned on; although I will always remember my surprise, and that of the Ship’s Company, when (in the 90s) an officer turned up at a ship’s ball with a male partner. Might be more common now I suspect.
I thought it was quoted as “rum bum and the lash” but hey.183 cms; and I have served in Victory …… although not, I hasten to add, in 1805. (Victory was, and maybe still is, the nominal posting for those working in places like the Dockyard in Portsmouth). We lived in HMS Nelson, though.
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“Rum, buggery and the lash” (Churchill) was the RN, the RAN never had either rum or the lash. There may have been a bit of the other, but it was frowned on; although I will always remember my surprise, and that of the Ship’s Company, when (in the 90s) an officer turned up at a ship’s ball with a male partner. Might be more common now I suspect.
Yep, moas and enemies. Both good tucker.Don't ya mean with Themistocles at Salamis?
Of cause, I understand you come from the days where typical rations involved Moa legs.
I served with a pommy chief stoker who served twice on Victory; once as an AB and the 2nd time as a CPO Stoker. He was short and reckoned his head had the odd meeting with the deckheads. Nice bloke but unfortunately crossed the bar recently.183 cms; and I have served in Victory …… although not, I hasten to add, in 1805. (Victory was, and maybe still is, the nominal posting for those working in places like the Dockyard in Portsmouth). We lived in HMS Nelson, though.
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“Rum, buggery and the lash” (Churchill) was the RN, the RAN never had either rum or the lash. There may have been a bit of the other, but it was frowned on; although I will always remember my surprise, and that of the Ship’s Company, when (in the 90s) an officer turned up at a ship’s ball with a male partner. Might be more common now I suspect.
The other issue for the RAN fitting Tomahawks to the Collins class, is lack of rack space. They can only carry about 22 weapons, including Mk 48 HWTs and Harpoon AShMs so any Tomahawks are going to eat into available weapon space. The Astutes on the other hand can carry up to 38 weapons.I believe that to be the case, the TTL (torpedo tubes launch) canister differs from the VLS canister in that it's designed to be ejected from the tube after launch. The VLS variant is removed in port. From what I understand that is the component no longer in production. Public domain information regarding future procurement that I've seen specifically show no production of the TTL canister going forward. I am not sure but I imagine the ability to do so still exists.
If we are going to have Collins Class in service for some years more, and torpedo tube launched Tomahawks are not available, is there an option to get the UK/French StormShadow/SCALP missile in service to provide a torpedo tube launched SLCM for the RAN? Its performance in the Ukraine war looks to have been pretty good with recent attacks on Sevastapol by both reportedly knocking out Russian warships in dry dock. It may not be quite as long ranged as Tomahawk (1000km vs 1600km) but is stealthy, hard hitting and evidently not easily shot down by Russian pattern air defences. It would give the RAN a sub launched cruise missile capability for the first time, and a decade sooner.I believe that to be the case, the TTL (torpedo tubes launch) canister differs from the VLS canister in that it's designed to be ejected from the tube after launch. The VLS variant is removed in port. From what I understand that is the component no longer in production. Public domain information regarding future procurement that I've seen specifically show no production of the TTL canister going forward. I am not sure but I imagine the ability to do so still exists.
They would have to be integrated into the US AN/BYG-1 CMS that the Collins use, not sure the Americans would allow the French anywhere near it.If we are going to have Collins Class in service for some years more, and torpedo tube launched Tomahawks are not available, is there an option to get the UK/French StormShadow/SCALP missile in service to provide a torpedo tube launched SLCM for the RAN? Its performance in the Ukraine war looks to have been pretty good with recent attacks on Sevastapol by both reportedly knocking out Russian warships in dry dock. It may not be quite as long ranged as Tomahawk (1000km vs 1600km) but is stealthy, hard hitting and evidently not easily shot down by Russian pattern air defences. It would give the RAN a sub launched cruise missile capability for the first time, and a decade sooner.
French submarine fires a cruise missile for the first time
"For the first time, a French submarine has fired a cruise missile."ukdefencejournal.org.uk
The Tomahawk fired by Astute weighs 1300kg and is 5.5 metres long.
The SCALP/MdCN fired from the Suffren SSN weighs 1400kg and is 6.5 metres long. It is reportedly the same missile as Storm Shadow, so I assume the difference in length is due to the capsule for torpedo launch.
MdCN - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I think you will find that it would go both ways. The US not wanting the French to have too many details about the AN/BYG-1 CMS and the French not wanting to have too many details about SCALP. All of which means that it would be very difficult to get a full and functional integration, and the ones who would suffer would be the RAN.They would have to be integrated into the US AN/BYG-1 CMS that the Collins use, not sure the Americans would allow the French anywhere near it.