Why is it its not gonna see the light of day? The work on it is already progressing. Vympel is working on a 2 stage BVRAAM based on the Adder.
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Well, let's hope it will. Still, it is a long way between development and operationalization of an air to air missile. It involves hardware, and software integration. For sure, software changes on the host platform is necessary. Sometimes hardware changes are necessary too, depending on the physical properties of the missile. Then there is the flight testing, which has two parts, the carriage and employment envelope, as well as proper functionality.
Unless you have the resources of the US, it will take a while. Even for the US, it takes a while. If not, you might get a substandard product.
Unless you have the resources of the US, it will take a while. Even for the US, it takes a while. If not, you might get a substandard product.
IMO missiles development doesnt take the amount of billions that other hardware eats up to produce something, and the Russians are world beaters when it comes to missile technology.
As far as feilding missiles, the R 77 and the R 74 Digital archer came after the breakup of the Soviet Union so I do not believe there are brakes on missile development, due to post Soviet era industry.
As far as feilding missiles, the R 77 and the R 74 Digital archer came after the breakup of the Soviet Union so I do not believe there are brakes on missile development, due to post Soviet era industry.
Maybe not billions of dollars. But it takes time, which could be the most precious commidity. Just for physical and software integration with the host platform, it already takes quite a bit of time. Then there is flight testing which requires instrumented aircraft as well as instrumented ranges. The latter can be a resource crunch unless you have permanent set up like the US. Even the US faces limits because these are very high value and very highly utilised assets.
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Hey tanaTana, thanks for the pic!Nevidimka, here is a photo of MKM sitting next to a 29N, together with F/A-18D n Hawk 208. This photo was taken at the recent air show at Subang.
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Hey. Does anyone have information about this news. Malaysia selects 4 Erieyes worth 1.6 billion$ (7 billion SEK). 
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Saab And Malaysia Close In On Billion Deal
Malaysia has selected Saab Erieye radar and the purchase is included in the country's plans for defence equipment purchases. Its confirmed by Saab Vice President Erik Löwenadler, writes the Swedish business newspaper Dagens Industri.
The next step is the contract negotiations. The deal includes four airborne radar systems and is worth around 7 billion dollars.
"We are waiting to enter the negotiations with the customer for the delivery, but it must be a definition of what their needs are and how we will match it," said Erik Löwenadler.
The need for an early warning system is great, writes Dagens Industri.
Malaysia has assessed the Erieye on two different planes, one of which is Saab 2000.
No other radar is involved in contract negotiations. The project has the status of a priority and is included in the Malaysian defence equipment plans, but in competition with fighter planes and other supplies. Therefore, the decision dragged on.
"Erieye is included in the rolling five-year plan they have for defence equipment purchases. We've been around all the time as a more or less a priority item, but it takes time to complete a deal," said Erik Löwenadler.
He was already a couple of years ago convinced that the contract in Malaysia was as good as done, but says that he understands if the customer needs time when it comes to such big business and finance.
"These deals will take a very long time. In Pakistan, we started ten or twelve years ago. In Malaysia, we have worked since 1992. It is a weighty political element in these deals."
Could the deal be finalized with Malaysia this year?
"I am doubtful. Although the process has gone on so long it does take a long time to complete a deal," said Erik Löwenadler. But he continues:
"That does not mean that I don’t think it could be this year."
How much the contract is worth in money for Saab depends on whether Malaysia also chooses Saab 2000 as a carrier of the radar, but it is roughly the same size as Pakistan's Erieye deal.
"It might be slightly less, it may be that magnitude, can also be something more," said Erik Löwenadler. The Pakistan Erieye del covered four to five radar systems for the 7 billion Swedish kronor, after renegotiation.
Malaysia is not alone. As DI is informed Saudi Arabia has also revealed an award of early warning systems, in which the Erieye selected. Even in that case, Saab is awaiting a decision on contracts. In addition, there are additional countries which are close to the finish.
"We have a number of stakeholders that we're talking to that are well advanced," said Erik Löwenadler.
And despite the lengthy procurement process, he dares to stand out the chin:
"I think we can have a contract with one customer in the near two-year period, up to and including 2009."
"We also hope for a continuation in Thailand, to complement with a similar platform from the Swedish defence. In the long term, we believe that there is room for new sales," said Erik Löwenadler.
http://www.scandasia.com/viewNews.php?coun_code=my&news_id=4465
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Saab And Malaysia Close In On Billion Deal
Malaysia has selected Saab Erieye radar and the purchase is included in the country's plans for defence equipment purchases. Its confirmed by Saab Vice President Erik Löwenadler, writes the Swedish business newspaper Dagens Industri.
The next step is the contract negotiations. The deal includes four airborne radar systems and is worth around 7 billion dollars.
"We are waiting to enter the negotiations with the customer for the delivery, but it must be a definition of what their needs are and how we will match it," said Erik Löwenadler.
The need for an early warning system is great, writes Dagens Industri.
Malaysia has assessed the Erieye on two different planes, one of which is Saab 2000.
No other radar is involved in contract negotiations. The project has the status of a priority and is included in the Malaysian defence equipment plans, but in competition with fighter planes and other supplies. Therefore, the decision dragged on.
"Erieye is included in the rolling five-year plan they have for defence equipment purchases. We've been around all the time as a more or less a priority item, but it takes time to complete a deal," said Erik Löwenadler.
He was already a couple of years ago convinced that the contract in Malaysia was as good as done, but says that he understands if the customer needs time when it comes to such big business and finance.
"These deals will take a very long time. In Pakistan, we started ten or twelve years ago. In Malaysia, we have worked since 1992. It is a weighty political element in these deals."
Could the deal be finalized with Malaysia this year?
"I am doubtful. Although the process has gone on so long it does take a long time to complete a deal," said Erik Löwenadler. But he continues:
"That does not mean that I don’t think it could be this year."
How much the contract is worth in money for Saab depends on whether Malaysia also chooses Saab 2000 as a carrier of the radar, but it is roughly the same size as Pakistan's Erieye deal.
"It might be slightly less, it may be that magnitude, can also be something more," said Erik Löwenadler. The Pakistan Erieye del covered four to five radar systems for the 7 billion Swedish kronor, after renegotiation.
Malaysia is not alone. As DI is informed Saudi Arabia has also revealed an award of early warning systems, in which the Erieye selected. Even in that case, Saab is awaiting a decision on contracts. In addition, there are additional countries which are close to the finish.
"We have a number of stakeholders that we're talking to that are well advanced," said Erik Löwenadler.
And despite the lengthy procurement process, he dares to stand out the chin:
"I think we can have a contract with one customer in the near two-year period, up to and including 2009."
"We also hope for a continuation in Thailand, to complement with a similar platform from the Swedish defence. In the long term, we believe that there is room for new sales," said Erik Löwenadler.
http://www.scandasia.com/viewNews.php?coun_code=my&news_id=4465
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check what ive got....
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/Frontpage/2290120/Article/index_html
On whether the defence ministry would scale down its operational expenses following uncertainties due to rising global oil prices, Najib said 10 per cent of the original budget under the Ninth Malaysia Plan, or RM300 million, had been slashed under the mid-term review.
"This is part of the government's austerity drive as we are setting our priorities in line with the current economic conditions."
Nevertheless, Najib said most of the ministry's existing projects would continue, including the programme to replace its 40-year-old fleet of Nuri helicopters.
On reports that Singapore has shown interest in buying up to 100 of Lockheed Martin Corp's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft over the coming decades, Najib said it was too early to speculate.
"I cannot confirm the authenticity of the report, but at the same time, I am not sure if Singapore needs that many (F-35s)."
At a separate function at the RMAF base in Subang, Air Force chief Gen Tan Sri Azizan Ariffin said the news, if accurate, was not something to be alarmed about as Singapore might only be replacing its old fleet.
Is it juz crazy for singapore to purchase 100!!! f-35's.
hahahahaha........im not that sure is it juz a normal joke or is singapore really serious purchasing that much aircraft in the mere future.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/Frontpage/2290120/Article/index_html
On whether the defence ministry would scale down its operational expenses following uncertainties due to rising global oil prices, Najib said 10 per cent of the original budget under the Ninth Malaysia Plan, or RM300 million, had been slashed under the mid-term review.
"This is part of the government's austerity drive as we are setting our priorities in line with the current economic conditions."
Nevertheless, Najib said most of the ministry's existing projects would continue, including the programme to replace its 40-year-old fleet of Nuri helicopters.
On reports that Singapore has shown interest in buying up to 100 of Lockheed Martin Corp's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft over the coming decades, Najib said it was too early to speculate.
"I cannot confirm the authenticity of the report, but at the same time, I am not sure if Singapore needs that many (F-35s)."
At a separate function at the RMAF base in Subang, Air Force chief Gen Tan Sri Azizan Ariffin said the news, if accurate, was not something to be alarmed about as Singapore might only be replacing its old fleet.
Is it juz crazy for singapore to purchase 100!!! f-35's.
hahahahaha........im not that sure is it juz a normal joke or is singapore really serious purchasing that much aircraft in the mere future.
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Malaysia's problem is that it has too many different types of aircraft in its inventory, and the lesser said about why that it is so it is better.
Look at it, they have F-18s, MIG29s, SU-30s and even the Hawk that can be converted to a light attack aircraft if needed. Malaysia needs to rationalise its fleets, go for a single type that would be able to perform more effectively rather than a bunch of aircraft that are very differnt from each other.
Does anyone want to make a guess on when Malaysia will decide on its next batch of fighters? I wonder if they even have the money, but nothing will probably be decided until the current prime minister leaves - things are just stagnant under him now.
Look at it, they have F-18s, MIG29s, SU-30s and even the Hawk that can be converted to a light attack aircraft if needed. Malaysia needs to rationalise its fleets, go for a single type that would be able to perform more effectively rather than a bunch of aircraft that are very differnt from each other.
Does anyone want to make a guess on when Malaysia will decide on its next batch of fighters? I wonder if they even have the money, but nothing will probably be decided until the current prime minister leaves - things are just stagnant under him now.