Grand Danois
Entertainer
Not to mention if you take a look at Google Earth and look for signs of economic activity like cars on the roads etc.Sea Toby said:
Response to North Korea Missile launch
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RubiconNZ
The Wanderer
its a toughy
Yeah the first week of any full scale conflict would be the tough one for South Korea, acheiveing full air superiority wold take at least 24 hours, then taking each of the hundreds even thousnds of tubes from mortar to Cannons to Missiles up to scud size which may or not include their specials, that they have had essentially fifty years to dig in with, then take out each, after that it shouldn't be a problem but the line near the DMZ will be battered, luckily the South Koreans have had fifty years to dig in also Massive casulties on both sides at the start till well, the Cavalry arrive.
Yeah the first week of any full scale conflict would be the tough one for South Korea, acheiveing full air superiority wold take at least 24 hours, then taking each of the hundreds even thousnds of tubes from mortar to Cannons to Missiles up to scud size which may or not include their specials, that they have had essentially fifty years to dig in with, then take out each, after that it shouldn't be a problem but the line near the DMZ will be battered, luckily the South Koreans have had fifty years to dig in also
Massive casulties on both sides at the start till well, the Cavalry arrive.
Agree entirely. Such an act would appear to justify sanctions noting NK have been playing a pretty low game in so far as respecting the international rights of others (alledged drug smuggling operations for example). It would even jsutify the use of ABM systems to take out the test missile but I don't thnk a direct strike is warrented at this stage and could back fire in the current world situation.Waylander said:
Best to be an injured party showing restraint (noting sanctions will really hurt NK) than to be seen to be an agressor by attacking directly.
The US statement, it seems, is that the US will try to shoot the missile down if it appears to be a "threat" to the US. It was also mentioned that if the launch was deemed a non threat, such as a satelite launch (the actual example cited), the US will not try to shoot it down.
Now i doubt if NK would test a missile by launching it west towards china. The satellite option is likely a face saving measure proposal.
Now i doubt if NK would test a missile by launching it west towards china. The satellite option is likely a face saving measure proposal.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5152918.stm
They launched 5 to 7 missiles in total according to different reports. Despite the difference in number of missiles tested, there is consensus that the Taepodong 2 launch was a failure. So Alaskans and Hawaiians can feel safe for at least a couple of months.
contedicavour
New Member
I think the best strategy to calm down the North Koreans would be to deploy a tight cover of PAC-3 in South Korea and of Burke DDGs and Ticonderoga CGs to shoot down any missile once it is confortably out of North Korean airspace.
If the North Koreans realize that any missile launched will be destroyed, then they'll have to stop or the entire world will realize that their threats are insignificant. Credibility of their threats is their one and only bargaining strength. Nullify it and their regime will eventually fall apart.
cheers
If the North Koreans realize that any missile launched will be destroyed, then they'll have to stop or the entire world will realize that their threats are insignificant. Credibility of their threats is their one and only bargaining strength. Nullify it and their regime will eventually fall apart.
cheers
Or they try do die fighting.
Forcing such regimes to do what you want is very difficult and dangerous. The North may not be able to invade the South successfully (Despite you never know really) but they are defenitely able to wreck havoc among the Korean Peninsula and that is something you should try to avoid.
Forcing such regimes to do what you want is very difficult and dangerous. The North may not be able to invade the South successfully (Despite you never know really) but they are defenitely able to wreck havoc among the Korean Peninsula and that is something you should try to avoid.
Musashi_kenshin
Well-Known Member
I think the North Koreans should just be ignored. They're now threatening to take more "action" if people keep complaining. I say call their bluff and don't give them anything. In fact squeeze them harder. They won't initiate military action.
Big-E said:
With all the available pre-launch intel its very possible and in fact nobody would be likely to know it even happened. But the official story is probably true...
Notice that immediately before the NK launch the alert level was raised. Also note that the trajectory, officially in the vicinity of Hawaii would have also been known. Dont discount the possibility of a SM-3 or a few other lesser known DEWs either.
I find it highly suspect that the missile would disintegrate 40 seconds after launch... I mean even the N. Koreans can build them better than that!DarthAmerica said:With all the available pre-launch intel its very possible and in fact nobody would be likely to know it even happened. But the official story is probably true...
Notice that immediately before the NK launch the alert level was raised. Also note that the trajectory, officially in the vicinity of Hawaii would have also been known. Dont discount the possibility of a SM-3 or a few other lesser known DEWs either.
It's pretty well known that they have shitty ballistic missile technology compared to Americans, Russians or even Chinese. Since this is the first time they test launched the TPD-2, it's not surprising that it ended up in failure. I don't think that has anything to do with the laser intercept as the all other test proved to be successful.Big-E said:
Those "Scuds" are thought to be Nodong missiles with range over 1000km, enough range to cover the entire S.Korea and most parts of Japan. I wouldn't dismiss it as something no one needs to worry about, especially when its capable of carrying nuclear warheads.Big-E said:
contedicavour
New Member
Are the N. Koreans trying to make a sales pitch ???
Another possibility on the N Korean regime's recent actions would be that they were trying to make a sales pitch for all those countries still relying on North Korean help to develop locally ballistic missiles (IRBMs mostly).
If the recent launch had not failed so miserably, it would have increased prices that for example Iran would accept to have them (or to have their technology).
Everybody knows that N Korea's "export industries" are counterfeiting and trafficking of everything that's illegal, starting with ballistic missile & nuclear technologies.
cheers
Another possibility on the N Korean regime's recent actions would be that they were trying to make a sales pitch for all those countries still relying on North Korean help to develop locally ballistic missiles (IRBMs mostly).
If the recent launch had not failed so miserably, it would have increased prices that for example Iran would accept to have them (or to have their technology).
Everybody knows that N Korea's "export industries"
are counterfeiting and trafficking of everything that's illegal, starting with ballistic missile & nuclear technologies.cheers