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Ananda

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Italian defence manufacturer Leonardo signed on 27 January a long-awaited Letter of Award for the sale of training aircraft to the Indonesian Air Force, according to documents consulted by Intelligence Online.
Seems the first use of diverted F-15EX procurement budget/credit line is for M346.

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Seems Turkiye, Italy and French that can be benefitted from cancellation of F-15EX. I always say from several years ago. If both Rafale and F-15EX being procure something has to give. Thus comsidering budget reality and the need to finance other defense projects, camcellation of F-15EX procurement is something that logical.
 
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Arji

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I am curious what will we choose to balance US trade in exchange for F-15EX. I'm working in the field related to aircraft MRO and there was discussion of purchasing Boeing aircraft with Danantara money last year, but that seems to have disappeared nowadays. It seems GIA is not really interested in ordering new aircraft from both manufacturer as they have to wait a long time due to the backlog, plus word is they'll have additional asset from Pelita Air soon, so I'm somewhat skeptical on ordering new aircraft from Boeing.

My hope is that they haven't given up on the E-7, but one thing for sure, Prabowo so far have been pretty subservient to the Trump admin, so I think balancing US trade with import is an important policy to him.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Singapore Airshow is from 3 to 8 February, IPTN participates with having a stand, but of course they only bring aircraft scale models of the CN235 and N219.


Also Jupiter Aerobatic Team is in Singapore. Hopefully the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition 2015 mistake will not be repeated and they will return all safely home.


Two more Eurocopter EC725 medium transporthelicopters are on their way to Indonesia. After reassembling, customizing and testing in Bandung, these 2 EC725s will be added to the 14 already in the fleet of TNI-AU.



Btw, in 2024 four new EC-145 training/SAR helicopters were ordered. Any more information about the costs, package and delivery period?
https://www.aviation24.be/manufactu...-for-training-and-search-and-rescue-missions/
Indonesian Air Force orders four Airbus H145 helicopters
 
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Ananda

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Blok 20, now I'm confuse, as it mean those aircraft will be the Hawk 200 replacement as LCA. Previously it is talk M346 will be LIFT and T-50i will be upgrade to FA-50 as LCA.

Seems this UAE base EES behave as financier. In short the credit line come from UAE fund. This also shown how ROK continue being sideline on new projects.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Blok 20, now I'm confuse, as it mean those aircraft will be the Hawk 200 replacement as LCA. Previously it is talk M346 will be LIFT and T-50i will be upgrade to FA-50 as LCA.

Seems this UAE base EES behave as financier. In short the credit line come from UAE fund. This also shown how ROK continue being sideline on new projects.
Really sad news.
I totally don't understand the choice for the M346 if Indonesia already have the T-50.

Here the official press release.
Leonardo, PT ESystem Solutions and the Ministry of Defence Of the Republic of Indonesia sign M-346 F AIRCRAFT Letter of Intent to meet Indonesian Air Force training and combat requirements
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
Let's wait for Pilatus PC-24, as the EES source talk about both M346 and PC-24. Like I said before Italy, Turkey and French seems going to be the winner, even tough Frenchie salesman continue b**ching on Turkey assets, as it is taking share of French sales. Leonardo also already have agreement with Roketsan to integrate their missiles to Leonardo system.

Increasing talk and rumours for PPA and Istif Frigates increase from 2 to 4, thus match the numbers of FMP/Arrowhead 140 of 4, on each type of Frigate. Also even tough DSME 209-1400 refurbishment from what I heard already improve those submarines readiness, the batch 2 for 209-1400 increasingly shown sign will not be taken and MinDef being talk in negotiation with Leonardo for 2 submarine as alternative (instead 3 in current Batch 2).

All this will be using part of budget that being save from F-15EX acquisition. However I strongly believe US made system will come to procurement agenda. However increasingly will not be Fighters. Indonesia already talk want to get Maritime Surveilance and ISTAR assets from US. More helicopters also have good probability.

Fighters so far that in serious talk are additional Rafale. While Su-35E to replace all Su-27 and Su-30 will be upgrade to the latest Mk2 standard. Potentially make 2 SQ of 8-10 Su-30Mk2 and Su-35E each. Again the Flankers from what I heard still create headache to Finance People to find Financing partner that willing to face CAATSA hurdles. So don't be surprises if in the end more Rafale being source.

KF-21 or J-10CE still toss up between both of them. While KAAN is long term project that going to be pursue for next decade. Thus it is also means not a done deal if next election result on different Government.


The M-346 is the best training ecosystem in the world right now.
The deal is for Block 20, thus it is likely being Hawk 200 replacement as LCA. Leonardo press statement already indicate that.

Thus more and more shown KAI assets will stay as trainer whether KT-1B as basic trainer and T/A-50i as LIFT.
 

tonnyc

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The M-346 is the best training ecosystem in the world right now.

Of course other platforms have better "performances" in terms of speed and/or payload: but a trainer's first role is training, not fighting.

I assume it's also a move to join the IFTS, probably.

Yeah, and the F-22 is the best fighter in the world right now. And we don't need either. We just need good enough. And good enough includes being affordable. And being affordable means not increasing the logistical cost by having yet another type of jets.

Seriously, if they want to shift all the T-50 into combat roles and want a pure trainer, just get more Super Tucano and tell Embraer to hold the weapons and sensors.
 
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