I dont think we are going to be sanctioned due to buying missiles from Russia. USA will also understand the situation.
1. This is factually incorrect and in this debate, you have failed to provide a valid argument or a link that shows otherwise.
(a) Learn to be gracious and listen when a senior member has been kind enough to correct you, when what you post is incorrect — if the Moderator Team had intervened earlier, you would have been banned. While Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs R. Clarke Cooper said: “The CAATSA sanctions are not designed to be punitive to a partner and ally that has got a sustainment issue or an operation or maintenance issue. We’re certainly not looking to disrupt that…”, its existence means no Indonesian or Indian bank is willing to provide a letter of credit to facilitate a Russian cross border significant transaction that involves advanced surface to air missiles.
(b) Despite the fact that CAATSA included a provision for a ‘case-by-case’ waiver of sanctions, India or Indonesia have, as yet, received no such waiver. India’s plans to buy advanced surface to air missiles is not a sustainment or maintenance issue; and in this type of case, CAATSA will apply to India or Indonesia, unless a waiver is granted.
(c) On 20 Sep 2018, to facilitate implementation of CAATSA, President Trump also issued Executive Order 13849 [380 KB] “Authorizing the Implementation of Certain Sanctions Set Forth in the Countering Americas Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.”
(d) CAATSA states that sanctions shall be imposed beginning on or after 180 days after enactment on persons that are determined to knowingly engage in a significant transaction with a person specified in the Guidance. For additional guidance on implementation of Section 231, see the following: Public Guidance/FAQ.
(e) "If India chooses to go forward with its purchase of the S-400, that act will clearly constitute a significant, and therefore sanctionable, transaction with the Russian defense sector under Section 231 of CAATSA," Sen. Bob Menendez, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee wrote in a recent letter to Secretary Austin, referring to the law called CAATSA. Senior Forum members have even more details on CATSSA that we are choosing not to share, as entertaining idiotic arguments only leads to idiots becoming more argumentative.
2. @Ahmad, if you:
(a) bring up the topic of CATSSA or post further incorrect info on the topic of sanctions, in any thread again, in the next 12 months, you will be banned; and
(b) fail to provide a link in any future post you make, you will be banned.
3. In the case of Turkey, their S400 purchase triggered the following sanctions under Section 235 of CAATSA, as implemented by Executive Order 13849 on 14 Dec 2020:
#1: a ban on US Export-Import Bank assistance for exports to SSB (Section 235(a)(1));
#2: a prohibition on granting specific US export licenses and authorizations for any goods or technology transferred to SSB (Section 235(a)(2));
#3: a prohibition on loans or credits by US financial institutions to SSB totaling more than US$10 million in any 12-month period (Section 235(a)(3));
#4: a requirement for the US to oppose loans benefitting SSB by international financial institutions (Section 235(a)(4)); and
imposition of full blocking sanctions and visa restrictions (which include sanctions #7, #8, #9, #11, and #12 of the sanctions listed above) on the following individuals:
- Dr. Ismail Demir, president of SSB;
- Faruk Yigit, SSB’s vice president;
- Serhat Gencoglu, Head of SSB’s Department of Air Defense and Space; and
- Mustafa Alper Deniz, Program Manager for SSB’s Regional Air Defense Systems Directorate.
4. A string of your poor quality posts have been deleted; and my prior request to the other moderators not to ban you have been rescinded. If you don’t want to learn from these corrections by a senior member, your remaining time here will be short. You have used up our patience with you by being unnecessarily dogmatic and refusing to learn.