Indonesia: 'green water navy'

Ananda

The Bunker Group

Ex Garibaldi berthing facility being speed up to receive the light carrier soon. It is important that MinDef can show her off during Naval Sail Pass at 5th of October. Seems the sail pass will be conducted in Lampung Naval Base.

Whether this carrier will become KRI Gajah Mada, or some other potential name (Sriwijaya or Majapahit also rumoures to be contender). The test is not the USD 450 mio upgrade, but whether the 'still' green water Navy can operate light carrier consistently. Or become another nice feature to have like Thai Chakri Naruebet. Two light carrier in ASEAN, and will be test on operating them consistently as light carrier.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
Circulating online on 76mm gun begin to be fitted on B possition at FMP.
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Got it wrong, it is for A possitioning. (From Keris FB).

Two light frigate candidate that being lobby to augment SIGMA 10514. Why not additional SIGMA ? The answer so far seems is MinDef did not want to engage Damen or Dutch supplier anymore for that matter.

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Yes Mogami is proper Frigate not Light Frigate, but the version being offer by Japanese lobby is the original ones, not the upgrade Mogami. In which basically will not be more heavier armed then SIGMA 10514 Light Frigate. While project 20380 is basically Light Frigate eventough it is call Corvette.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
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Well those KRI IGR crew does not check Mogami's near them, but they are checking Asagiri's ships at Yokosuka.

Altough some parties still claim this is what will come:
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So who say Japan lobby not fighthing back? Afterall they are also fighting to keep Chinese influence in check with Southeast Asia defence policies.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

The article on Jane's on the reschedulling of the steel cutting. The reasoning is the availability time table of High Rank executives and officers in the ceremony.

The submarines will be based on Naval Group's Scorpene Evolved design, which replaces traditional air-independent propulsion arrangements found on some previous Scorpene variants with high-capacity lithium-ion batteries.
I'm put a comment on this, as with the choices of Scorpene Evo, MinDef committed with the choice of Lithium Ion Battery rather then Battery-AIP combo. However there're still strong sales lobby to still offer Battery-AIP combo. Hope they are still consistent to reject Battery-AIP combo and stay put with full (lithium) battery choices.

Put this also back:

As seems they are still in line with schedulle of building 2 submarine in pararel time. Thus just like the first batch of two, the second batch of two is going to be build in pararel time line.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group
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Kamikaze USV from PT. PAL being circulated online in the TNI joint exercise.

Keris FB also shown today photo on FMP progress. Shown components for fixed panel radar inside the mast. Seems the work for B possition gun instalation already being prepare also.
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From FB Enthusiats on video that already circulate of the USV simulation on ramming the target. This is more as simulation, that shown this USV in my opinion still ongoing development prototype stages.

Additional photo also circulating shown the concept of LHD as mother ship for those Kamikaze USV. This is means as the USV on theory also cam be use as survailance, TNI-AL can use the LHD to put swarm of USV on the intended target.

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Sandhi Yudha

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Kamikaze USV from PT. PAL being circulated online in the TNI joint exercise.

Keris FB also shown today photo on FMP progress. Shown components for fixed panel radar inside the mast. Seems the work for B possition gun instalation already being prepare also.
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Add:
From FB Enthusiats on video that already circulate of the USV simulation on ramming the target. This is more as simulation, that shown this USV in my opinion still ongoing development prototype stages.

Additional photo also circulating shown the concept of LHD as mother ship for those Kamikaze USV. This is means as the USV on theory also cam be use as survailance, TNI-AL can use the LHD to put swarm of USV on the intended target.

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Thank you for sharing. I thought the Oto Melara 76 mm gun on the B-position was included in the FFBNW-package.
 

x100 XKR

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Thank you for sharing. I thought the Oto Melara 76 mm gun on the B-position was included in the FFBNW-package.
If the FFBNW equipments are already placed under contract, should they still be called FFBNW? Based on what we know, the FMP at commissioning then should have at least all the shipboards electronics, guns, and VLS. Whether the VLS are loaded or not - that's the part that is still an open question, no?

Another question:
The Istif class acquisition - is that real or simply a non-binding MoU/LOI - like the one for F15EX?
 
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