indian bull
Banned Member
Well the missile you are quoting "Nirbhay" is not a part of IGMDP(Integrated Missile Development Programme) and it will be developed as under a seperate programme.
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indian bull
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Hah Dhanush is not under IGMDP programme and is successfully testfired few times and is ready to wipe out enemy naval formations with its tactical nuclear warhead. It has a maximum range of 750km with a 250kg nuclear warhead, i hope no navy in Indian ocean will want to face it's wrath, thanks.
indian bull
Banned Member
The anti-tank missile will be inducted this year and other one Trishul is developed but will not enter Armed forces because their(armed forces) parameters have changed a lot since the starting of Trishul development.One form or the other,
I don't think Anti-tank missile has entered in any form.
Trishul-Short range- don't find any mention of it either entering service in any form:unknown .
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
This is what I concluded from reading all the posts in this topic:
As of today, out of all those missiles India has been developing and is developing indegeniously, only two are inducted :
Prthivi and Agni.
Interesting.
As of today, out of all those missiles India has been developing and is developing indegeniously, only two are inducted :
Prthivi and Agni.
Interesting.
Prithvi, Agni, Akash.
Trishul is closed as the Barak frankly out preformed it and with the submarine launched cruise missile threat from our dear neghibours that was too big a gap to ignore. Once Barak missile system was installed it did not make sense to keep on pouring money into the program.
I see you are still going on with your propoganda in the rest of the places, nice keep it up.
Nag program has not been closed. test by year end.
That is how things work in a program open to public eyes, they start as technology demonstrators and eventually graduate to production if all goes well.
Trishul is closed as the Barak frankly out preformed it and with the submarine launched cruise missile threat from our dear neghibours that was too big a gap to ignore. Once Barak missile system was installed it did not make sense to keep on pouring money into the program.
I see you are still going on with your propoganda in the rest of the places, nice keep it up.
Nag program has not been closed. test by year end.
That is how things work in a program open to public eyes, they start as technology demonstrators and eventually graduate to production if all goes well.
indian bull
Banned Member
Haha.... if some pigeon doesn't want to open his eyes because of the fear of cat, the cat is there to hunt it out may be pigeon doesn't want to see it. Agni, Prithvi, Akash and now Nag is ready for howling fire at the enemies.
indian bull
Banned Member
I think you don't know that Sagarika is the sub launched version of Dhanush and the Dhanush inturn is derived from Prithvi-3 and all of three have been successfully tested and ready for induction into armed forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagarika
Sagarika (oceanic) is a nuclear capable submarine-launched cruise missile with a range of 1000 km. This missile is a modified version of the ship launched Prithvi-III ballistic missile.[1] The development of this missile started in 1991. The first confirmation about the missile came in 1998 when, the then Defence minister George Fernandes announced during a press conference about the development of the cruise missile Sagarika.[2] The development of the underwater missile launcher know as the Project 78 (P78) was completed in 2001. This was handed over to the Indian Navy for trials. The missile was successfully test fired thrice
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india-gets-submarinebased-nuclear-missile/44268-3.html
New Delhi: India has declared itself capable of launching a nuclear missile from a submarine and has announced that a submarine-based cruise missile Sagarika has been developed and tested successfully.
With the induction of Sagarika, India has completed the triad of India's nuclear weapons delivery systems.
This was made known at a Defence Research and Development Organisation function in New Delhi on Saturday where the team responsible for the development of the Sagarika was felicitated.
Sources say the Sagarika has a range of 1,000 km and has been accepted for induction by the Navy.
The missile is likely to be installed on the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV). ATV is the indigenous nuclear-powered submarine that is expected to be launched next year
hey guys,great news here,israel has displayed for the first time the lora missile which india is planning to acquire(they selected it for funding as opposed to the russian iskander-e missile).
this is a top class system .
check out this link it also contains information on other technologies being displayed by israel at the defexpo 2008 ,including the lahat anti tank missile which is to be equipped on the arjun main battle tank.
here is the link and the aricle:
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?FolderID=34592&lang=EN&res=0&pos=0
this is a top class system .
check out this link it also contains information on other technologies being displayed by israel at the defexpo 2008 ,including the lahat anti tank missile which is to be equipped on the arjun main battle tank.
here is the link and the aricle:
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?FolderID=34592&lang=EN&res=0&pos=0
The LORA is a Long Range Artillery Weapon System capable of engaging strategic targets deep in the enemy's territory from mobile or maritime platforms. Typical targets are fixed or transportable including infrastructure assets. The warhead can be delivered accurately within less than
10 meters from a designated target, regardless of the target's range.
The missile can be equipped with a 400 Kg. high explosive warhead or with 600 Kg. penetration warhead to hit hardened targets.
The missile can be launched within few minutes from unprepared positions. Any target whose location is known within the range of the missile can be attacked within less than 10 minutes from the launch decision.
The LORA uses a shaped trajectory flight mode.
LORA is stored in a sealed canister with shelf life of seven years without maintenance.
there is also a movie of this missile.
10 meters from a designated target, regardless of the target's range.
The missile can be equipped with a 400 Kg. high explosive warhead or with 600 Kg. penetration warhead to hit hardened targets.
The missile can be launched within few minutes from unprepared positions. Any target whose location is known within the range of the missile can be attacked within less than 10 minutes from the launch decision.
The LORA uses a shaped trajectory flight mode.
LORA is stored in a sealed canister with shelf life of seven years without maintenance.
there is also a movie of this missile.
hey guys,
here is the link for the lahat anti tank missile,which has already been test fired from the arjun's main gun .
here is the link :
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?docID=37347&FolderID=34290&lang=en
here is the link for the lahat anti tank missile,which has already been test fired from the arjun's main gun .
here is the link :
http://www.iai.co.il/Default.aspx?docID=37347&FolderID=34290&lang=en
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
That is a very potent missile. I must say. Is it also produced in India under license from Israel because the topic says Indian missile programs ? Or did India just buy a few off the shelf ?
As of today, only Agni and Prthivi are inducted from all the missile India was and is developing indeginiously.
What is the status of Akash. Is it officially inducted as of today ?
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Aliph Ahmed
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Trishul cancelled, DRDO to focus on Barak II development
Dated 14/10/2006
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Research and development work on the indigenous ship defence missile Trishul will be stopped in December, official sources confirmed in New Delhi on Saturday.
Instead, the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) will focus on developing an advanced version of the Israeli Barak missile, now in the middle of a controversy following allegations of bribery in its imports.
The sources said Trishul was intended only as a technology demonstrator, meaning work on it would have formed the basis for developing missiles of the same category. They implied that the missile was not intended for induction in the Indian Navy although statements at various points of time by DRDO scientists suggested otherwise.
At least 50 trials have been conducted and nearly Rs. 300 crore has been spent on developing the Trishul, which is meant to shoot down missiles homing in on a ship.
The decision could cast a shadow on two other missiles — Akash and Nag — being developed by the DRDO as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme. While the DRDO has managed to develop Nag, meant to destroy tanks, it has had little success with the advanced versions, available off the shelf in the global armaments market for a decade. Akash's case is also the same and the Indian Air Force is understood to be hunting for alternatives abroad.
Officials do not think that the current controversy would inhibit the joint development of the next generation of Barak, which would be effective in a range of 60 km instead of the present 9 km. According to the CBI investigation, the Navy imported the Barak anti-missile systems and missiles despite DRDO objections and a middleman allegedly paid Rs. 2 crore to the then president of a political party.
http://www.*************.com/reports/2608
Dated 14/10/2006
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Research and development work on the indigenous ship defence missile Trishul will be stopped in December, official sources confirmed in New Delhi on Saturday.
Instead, the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) will focus on developing an advanced version of the Israeli Barak missile, now in the middle of a controversy following allegations of bribery in its imports.
The sources said Trishul was intended only as a technology demonstrator, meaning work on it would have formed the basis for developing missiles of the same category. They implied that the missile was not intended for induction in the Indian Navy although statements at various points of time by DRDO scientists suggested otherwise.
At least 50 trials have been conducted and nearly Rs. 300 crore has been spent on developing the Trishul, which is meant to shoot down missiles homing in on a ship.
The decision could cast a shadow on two other missiles — Akash and Nag — being developed by the DRDO as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme. While the DRDO has managed to develop Nag, meant to destroy tanks, it has had little success with the advanced versions, available off the shelf in the global armaments market for a decade. Akash's case is also the same and the Indian Air Force is understood to be hunting for alternatives abroad.
Officials do not think that the current controversy would inhibit the joint development of the next generation of Barak, which would be effective in a range of 60 km instead of the present 9 km. According to the CBI investigation, the Navy imported the Barak anti-missile systems and missiles despite DRDO objections and a middleman allegedly paid Rs. 2 crore to the then president of a political party.
http://www.*************.com/reports/2608
Naa we dont buy stuff off the shelf, we really like to bargain in them open roof markets, come on
The akash
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/dec/26air.htm
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080106004758
The NAG will be tested this year end and then it will be known what becomes of it.
Trishul has gone by-by a long time ago, no need to reinvent the wheel as they say.
so thats what 3 done, 1 achieved the technology demonstrator version and was subsequently sent to sleep following that Barak weapon system purchase and Barak-2(NG) joint venture, and another will go for test this year.
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
I am not interested in what India " will " be acquiring or producing or inducting or what not. India can induct an UFO in the future for all what I care. I dont.Naa we dont buy stuff off the shelf, we really like to bargain in them open roof markets, come on
The akash
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/dec/26air.htm
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I am only interested in current and as of date facts and figures.
The fact is that out of all those missiles that India was and is producing, only two are inducted namely:
Prithvi and Agni.
You fail to see the irony of posting “I do not care…” in a thread of a military discussion forum.
And seem to be interested in other motives, whatever that may be
Akash has been inducted into the IAF they have placed the order which includes the money, everything is done, and the production lines will churn out the missiles, try to read the posted articles, and if you wish to bend facts to suit your purpose, you define exactly the opposite of what you say you stand for.
If you are waiting for the actual physical induction of the missile into operational units on the ground before you acknowledge that the missile even exists, bravo. the integrated missile program develops the missiles and once everything is done it is passed on to the production phase that is how it happens for all we know this very moment production lines might be active and churning them out.
It is a system which will include more things the missile is a part of it.
And yes the issue of this thread is the "Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme" indeed.
And seem to be interested in other motives, whatever that may be
Akash has been inducted into the IAF they have placed the order which includes the money, everything is done, and the production lines will churn out the missiles, try to read the posted articles, and if you wish to bend facts to suit your purpose, you define exactly the opposite of what you say you stand for.
If you are waiting for the actual physical induction of the missile into operational units on the ground before you acknowledge that the missile even exists, bravo. the integrated missile program develops the missiles and once everything is done it is passed on to the production phase that is how it happens for all we know this very moment production lines might be active and churning them out.
It is a system which will include more things the missile is a part of it.
And yes the issue of this thread is the "Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme" indeed.
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indian bull
Banned Member
Hi every body, IAF has placed the order for one squadron of AKASH after successfully conducting user trials in which AKASH was tested 9 times and it hit the target all the 9 time, with this Akash programme is a success. Now it is called induction in Pakistan i don't know but we can test the missile for 10th time live if some other country wants to send its aircraft for checking its(AKASH's) capability, thanks.
Missiles in SERVICE-
SS-150 (Printvi I) - For IA
SS-250 (Prithvi II) - For IAF
Dhanush (ProthviI/II derivative with stabilized platform) - for IN
Agni I (Single stage solid fuel )
Agni II (2 Stage Solid fuel )
Agni II AT - (2 stage solid fuel , Booster made of Maraging steel, 2nd stage composite)
Brahmos (Propulsion from Russia, Guidence, Seeker/electronics from India)
Aakash - IAF - 2 squadrons ordered, IOC.
The following are the benefit of forumites other than Aliph Ahmed
Upcoming (Tactical only)- Nag Winter trials completed, Summer trial in April/May.
Helina - Helicopter launched Nag with 7 km range - Under development.
Maitri-LLQR missile, joint development with MBDA
Barak II- Joint development with IAI for IN
Barak NG - Joint development with IAI for IAF
Strategic - Agni III
Agni IV (Agni III with composite motor)
Sagarika/K-15 (Sub launched ICBM) _ Testing this month.
Ashwin - AAD derived short range solid fuel, (this may come under tactical category)
Nirbhay - Tactical/Strategic cruise missile
Avatar- TD for Hypersonic program.
Astra- A2A, Flight trial starting April
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
You guys are funny !
I have repeatedly said that I am ONLY interested in Current and as of date facts.
Placing an order for something does not mean it is inducted !! Atleast get your military terms right.
The topic is India's Intergerated Military Program which revolved around 5-6 missiles. All of them were suppose to be inducted " very soon " for the past 15+ years.
The FACT is that as of today, ONLY TWO are inducted.
I have repeatedly said that I am ONLY interested in Current and as of date facts.
Placing an order for something does not mean it is inducted !! Atleast get your military terms right.
The topic is India's Intergerated Military Program which revolved around 5-6 missiles. All of them were suppose to be inducted " very soon " for the past 15+ years.
The FACT is that as of today, ONLY TWO are inducted.
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Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
Prithvi : Yes.
Agni : Yes.
Brahmos : Joint Venture. Not an indegenious Indian missile.
Akash : Not Inducted as of today. Ordering and Inducting are two different terms.
and the rest are all futuristic stuff. I am ONLY interested in current and as of date facts and figures.
Go to the military information websites please, that will keep you occupied for the rest of your life.
Try to take a look at the different versions of Agni.
And the difference between ordering and induction is "production" which for all you know is going on.
The missile development program is not a factory or a production line up responsible for producing/manufacturing the missiles, they develop them
The "Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme":
- Has delivered on Three accounts (according to your logic of five missiles- its more like Five projects). (Prithvi, Agni, Akash.)
- Will conduct tests for a forth one. (Nag)
- Reached the technology demonstrator version for the fifth one. (Trishul)
I see you have discovered the joys of editing, welcome to it eh.
Try to take a look at the different versions of Agni.
And the difference between ordering and induction is "production" which for all you know is going on.
The missile development program is not a factory or a production line up responsible for producing/manufacturing the missiles, they develop them
The "Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme":
- Has delivered on Three accounts (according to your logic of five missiles- its more like Five projects). (Prithvi, Agni, Akash.)
- Will conduct tests for a forth one. (Nag)
- Reached the technology demonstrator version for the fifth one. (Trishul)
I see you have discovered the joys of editing, welcome to it eh.
Thats why I clearly wrote the other information is meant for forumites other than you.
I also specified Brahmos is a joint development, where Russia supplied the Airframe/Engine and India the Guidence/electronics.
I also wrote Aakash - Ordered and IOC.
IGDMP will close down at the end of 2008-2009 financial year. With better part of a yeat yet to come Aakash and Nag will enter services. (IOC). FOC and deployemnt will take couple of years more, but that is b/w production agency (BDL) and user (IAF/IA). not DRDO.
So 4 out of 5 is ok with me.
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