WHOA :eek
That was totally unexpected. Digital camo ? on an Indian HELICOPTER ? That's a new one lol. Even the Americans don't use that kind of camoflage on their gunships.
Still looks awesome, tbh...
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WHOA :eek
That was totally unexpected. Digital camo ? on an Indian HELICOPTER ? That's a new one lol. Even the Americans don't use that kind of camoflage on their gunships.
Still looks awesome, tbh...
dragonfire
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Cant really look at the camo as a operational camo by the IAF or the IA, i doubt it would do justice to the environment an Attack Chopper would operate in to give it any kind of camouflage effect. It seems to me that it is purely a PR exercise by HAL to generate more interest in what could be champion product for overseas sales. Considering that already there are 200+ nos ordered by Indian Armed Forces.
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Some of the additional pics i saw later; could actually help in a Desert environment, maybe the shades and combinations would define usability better
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LCH should blend in perfectly against the bare mountains of Leh, Afghanistan and any other vegetation free arid mountainous area (the areas where it is designed to excel), but will stand out like a sore thumb in tropics. Lets hope that this isn't the only camo pattern available.
Camo patterns depend on the user nation. The americans could paint it their own signature digital camo, or the standard NATO woodland camouflage. The Germans their own flecktarn etc.
The camouflage is a purely optional modification to a gunship like this, which will actually not be done by India, but by the armies that purchase the aircraft, and according to their own operational environments...
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A better resolution picture of NLCA courtesy Shiv Aroor's blog, LIVEFIST http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WkYAPdzUTzs/ToG6_eTpv4I/AAAAAAAANuw/bFTgvRPyk9c/s1600/IMG_0005-760953.jpg
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Indian Navy's first P8-I
Here's Boeing's promotional video for P-8 I
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Footage of first flight of P-8I for Indian Navy
Video of first flight of P-8I for Indian Navy
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IAF to induct 214 variants of FGFA
214 Fighters - 166 Single Seaters and 48 Twin Seaters. Which essentially raises the question of how different would the PAK-FA and FGFA be. Initially it was felt India preferred to operate 2 seater Fighters and would be ordering more Twin Seaters than Single seaters.
Based on this News it looks like IAF is basically going for the PAK-FA with some component customisation and ordering 3 Sqdns of the same but in trainer variant.
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214 Fighters - 166 Single Seaters and 48 Twin Seaters. Which essentially raises the question of how different would the PAK-FA and FGFA be. Initially it was felt India preferred to operate 2 seater Fighters and would be ordering more Twin Seaters than Single seaters.
Based on this News it looks like IAF is basically going for the PAK-FA with some component customisation and ordering 3 Sqdns of the same but in trainer variant.
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Also Interestingly a news not reported here was the order for 75 Pilatus PC-7s for basic training. The order size could go upto 200. What has been challenging is its track record with incidents
The competition was between Grob’s G-120 TP, Embraer’s EMB-312 Super Tucano, Finmeccanica’s M-311, Hawker Beechcraft’s T-6C Texan-II and Korean Aerospace’s KT-1
Swiss Pilatus PC-7 to train IAF rookies - Bangalore - DNA
Wonder if the Surya Kiran team would be revived post deliveries.
If the Intermediate Trainer also shapes up then the training-element headache of the IAF would be eased for a long time.
-- The deliveries are supposed to start from 2013
The competition was between Grob’s G-120 TP, Embraer’s EMB-312 Super Tucano, Finmeccanica’s M-311, Hawker Beechcraft’s T-6C Texan-II and Korean Aerospace’s KT-1
Swiss Pilatus PC-7 to train IAF rookies - Bangalore - DNA
Wonder if the Surya Kiran team would be revived post deliveries.
If the Intermediate Trainer also shapes up then the training-element headache of the IAF would be eased for a long time.
-- The deliveries are supposed to start from 2013
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Twinblade
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RIA Novosti reports that Apache has been selected over Mi-28N for the attack chopper tender. Apparently AH-64D led Mi-28N in over 20 evaluation points.
The results for utility chopper and heavy lift chopper are still awaited.
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The results for utility chopper and heavy lift chopper are still awaited.
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I always found that rather curious. Are these second hand PC-7's or did Pilatus bid new builds for the contract?
If so why? It has just spent a small fortune on developing the PC-21, an advancement on the PC-9. Interesting that India would accept such a relatively older prop trainer?
dragonfire
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These would be new builds and it would be the PC-7 Mk II which is a slightly advanced version comparable to the PC-9, except for engine - the PC-7 Mk II operates with the Pratt & Whitney PT6A-25C.
IAF with this purchase is looking for a Basic Trainer and perhaps the PC-21 being marked as an advanced turboprop trainer might have gone against it, either ways basis on the requirement projected by IAF this was the model floated by Pilatus they did not field the PC-21 and perhaps there might be a cost differential which considering the volume of purchase might give some cost savings
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21 more Hawks for IAF's Surya Kiran aerobatics display team
IAF is purchasing 21 more Hawks which would be for the Surya Kiran Acrobatics Team
(SKAT). Interesting days ahead for the Indian aircraft and airshow enthusiasts. Hawks would definitely be faster and generally be more awesome as show stoppers
. Probably some training with the Red Arrows and the SnowBirds would be on the cards as well
Apparently India is purchasing another 59 Mi-17V5s, in addition to the 80 ordered earlier, in a deal that's expected to be valued at 1 bil USD. The plan is to sign the contract before the end of this fiscal year (March 2012). The deal is to include weapons for them.
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The previous contract envisioned deliveries through 2014, so this will likely extend them to the 2016/17 timeframe. This is a much needed boost for Rosvertol, after losing the tender for attack helos to the Apache, and given their slim chances in the light helo tender, with the Ka-226.
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The previous contract envisioned deliveries through 2014, so this will likely extend them to the 2016/17 timeframe. This is a much needed boost for Rosvertol, after losing the tender for attack helos to the Apache, and given their slim chances in the light helo tender, with the Ka-226.
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Indian Navy to induct 24 Boeing P-8I maritime patrol aircraft
It seems like Indian navy has fallen in love with their latest acquisition and are going to order a dozen more.
This is interesting because overhauls are continuing on their Tu-142ME fleet, with the completion date for all 8 aircrafts overhauls being 2020... bort 312 was handed over recently. After overhauls, these plans are expected to remain in service for at least some time, despite large scale P-8I purchases.
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Both the Tu-142ME and the IL-38SD are being upgraded to enable operation of air launched version of the BrahMos Missile; whereas the Weapons package for the P-8I Neptune is not clear and we havent heard anything about the BrahMos being integrated into it. However looks to me that over a period of time the P-8I would replace both the Bear acquired in 1988 (8 nos) and the May which was acquired between 1977 and 1983 (5 nos).
Apart from the BrahMos integration the Tu-142ME is an ASW asset; weapon capability including ability to carry 12 torpedoes, FAB 250 freefall bombs and depth charges. It as well as the IL-38 SD had earlier been integrated with the Sea Eagle AShM which the BrahMos would replace
Another Su-30MKI has crashed. The reason is given as technical failure.
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