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They were primarly carrying AK series(probably 56).
Indian CT apparently did encounter a MP5, but it was picked up by the terrorist from one of CT member who was killed earlier.
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News Updates
Indian Army gearing to face "dirty bombs"
Gen Kapoor, said his force was already concentrating on "4th-generation warfare'', basically asymmetric warfare conducted at the sub-conventional level by terror or other groups, and the ways to tackle it. "Dirty bombs, suitcase bombs...we are looking into all possibilities,'' he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...i_dirty_nuclear_bombs/articleshow/3979541.cms
The Indian Army feels that perhaps neighbouring nuclear arsenals are not safe from falling into the hands of 'non-state' actors which coupled with previous nuc-tech proliferation track records and the belief of hand-in-glove movement with various such non state actors puts across a real threat and therefore a need to be prepared for it
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US Marines and Indian Army conduct joint excercises
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/...4A=&SectionName=zkvyRoWGpmWSxZV2TGM5XQ==&SEO=
Indian Army gearing to face "dirty bombs"
Gen Kapoor, said his force was already concentrating on "4th-generation warfare'', basically asymmetric warfare conducted at the sub-conventional level by terror or other groups, and the ways to tackle it. "Dirty bombs, suitcase bombs...we are looking into all possibilities,'' he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...i_dirty_nuclear_bombs/articleshow/3979541.cms
The Indian Army feels that perhaps neighbouring nuclear arsenals are not safe from falling into the hands of 'non-state' actors which coupled with previous nuc-tech proliferation track records and the belief of hand-in-glove movement with various such non state actors puts across a real threat and therefore a need to be prepared for it
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US Marines and Indian Army conduct joint excercises
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/...4A=&SectionName=zkvyRoWGpmWSxZV2TGM5XQ==&SEO=
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Tank News
Evaluation Face-Off between the DRDO Arjun MBT and the russian T-90 Bhishma tanks - this is going to be interesting as this will directly pit the army favoured t-90s against the indegenious arjun MBTs
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/land/indian_army/20090117_indian_army.html
Evaluation Face-Off between the DRDO Arjun MBT and the russian T-90 Bhishma tanks - this is going to be interesting as this will directly pit the army favoured t-90s against the indegenious arjun MBTs
Link for full story:
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/land/indian_army/20090117_indian_army.html
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Artillery Trials for huge order
Indian Army to start artillery evaluation trials news
17 January 2009
New Delhi: The Indian Army is all set to commence a test programme for artillery guns in various versions after receiving fresh bids from foreign companies. The eventual order for a variety of towed, self-propelled and ultra-light howitzers will be a massive Rs15,000 crore and is expected to complete the army's ambitious artillery modernisation plan.
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/general/20090117_trials.html
The order will be massive it will include about 1500 towed howitzers, 180 self propelled howitzers and about 140 air mobile ultra light howitzers - a total of about 1820 guns for about 15000 Crores (INR) about 3.5 Billion USD
Indian Army to start artillery evaluation trials news
17 January 2009
New Delhi: The Indian Army is all set to commence a test programme for artillery guns in various versions after receiving fresh bids from foreign companies. The eventual order for a variety of towed, self-propelled and ultra-light howitzers will be a massive Rs15,000 crore and is expected to complete the army's ambitious artillery modernisation plan.
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/general/20090117_trials.html
The order will be massive it will include about 1500 towed howitzers, 180 self propelled howitzers and about 140 air mobile ultra light howitzers - a total of about 1820 guns for about 15000 Crores (INR) about 3.5 Billion USD
yes . that is very good news for the DRDO.
according to DRDO the earlier problems with the engine were caused bcoz the indian army over-ran them at high speeds for longer duration than they would in a t-72 or a t-90 ( the engine and transmission being better than the latter ) without noticing.
we will get to know if their claim is true on through comparative trials.
i,m more eager to know the result of this trial more than the result of the MMRCA competition.
brahmos test fired succsfully in rajasthan
BrahMos Cruise Missile: Vertical Launch Configuration Test Fired in Rajasthan Desert Conditions
Dated 20/1/2009
DRDO has test-fired the nuclear-capable BrahMos cruise missile at Pokhran in Rajasthan's desert in a planned launch for the army. The missile was launched during the trial in its vertical mode, a configuration that is likely to be used for land forces based operations.
Currently, the army has one regiment armed with the BrahMos missile which is different from the version that was test-fired. The present round of trials was earlier scheduled for January 17 but was postponed because of prevalent weather conditions in the region.
Also there is a hypersonic version of brahmos being developed.
BrahMos Cruise Missile: Vertical Launch Configuration Test Fired in Rajasthan Desert Conditions
Dated 20/1/2009
DRDO has test-fired the nuclear-capable BrahMos cruise missile at Pokhran in Rajasthan's desert in a planned launch for the army. The missile was launched during the trial in its vertical mode, a configuration that is likely to be used for land forces based operations.
Currently, the army has one regiment armed with the BrahMos missile which is different from the version that was test-fired. The present round of trials was earlier scheduled for January 17 but was postponed because of prevalent weather conditions in the region.
Also there is a hypersonic version of brahmos being developed.
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Yeah this has got to be interesting, if wht u say is true then i wonder wht will be the outcome as India has already placed its orders for the T-90s as such, but if the Arjun even matches the T-90s then that will be a major achievement for the DRDO (atleast morally). I wonder there is any new tank development program in russia. Wht came out in papers mostly was tht the Arjun couldnt successfully complete testing in the harsh desert climes of rajasthan due to overheating, then also thers is a question why the trials/fce-off has come so late esp wht good it will come if the required nos have been ordered by the army alreadyyes . that is very good news for the DRDO.
according to DRDO the earlier problems with the engine were caused bcoz the indian army over-ran them at high speeds for longer duration than they would in a t-72 or a t-90 ( the engine and transmission being better than the latter ) without noticing.
we will get to know if their claim is true on through comparative trials.
i,m more eager to know the result of this trial more than the result of the MMRCA competition.
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Actualy the missile tests were a failure. The variant being tested was fitted with a new guidance scheme and failed in the test.
Am sure its nothing to worry about as Brahmos has already completed 20 tests succesfully and as i recall has been one of the fastest missile developments ever, also remember it is the only hypersonic missile being operationalised and therefore a few tests failing should not be a major concern (the whole idea of testing is to see how practical new etchnologies/ components etc work) some tests fail some work some need to be tweaked etc
Link to yesterdays article
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...test_complete_failure/articleshow/4006146.cms
Well India has ordered aprox 1700 T-90s which is quite a lot but, the Indian armoured core consists of 3200 tanks + reserves. Out of these aprox 800 T-72 M1s will be upgraded to C.I.Ajeya standard ( essentially equal to the Polish PT-90 ) +124 arjuns Mk1.
The remaining tanks which are the Vijayanta MBT, T-55, older T-72 are going to be phased out.
So there is still hope for more orders as there is still room.
but its gonna have to own this trials. the DRDO has been crying for this opportunity for a long time now and so the army or the MoD wont settle for anything les than a stellar performance.
There is a very candid and interesting article in this weeks Janes Defence covering India and its need to refocus following the Mumbai attacks. It includes a comprehensive look at the Army, Airforce and Navy today and in the future.
Fairly critical in areas, particularly when discussing the state of the army (Navy and Airforce modernization plans on track). According to senior army commanders interviewed of the 3,000 main battle tanks (T-72, T72M1s, T90S, T-55's), along with 1, 000 BMP2, only 300 are capable of engaging in a night time action (following project Rhino upgrades to T72M1), the T90S Thales systems are proving too unreliable and cannot be deployed due to heat issues. However plans are afoot to improve the situation aimed at gaining an edge over the current crop of Pakistan MBT's which are night capable (JDW21Jan09).
Now with the need to divert funds to improve the SF's domestic response infrastructure, which is going to prove an expensive exercise because of the shear size of India I'm convinced funds will have to be diverted from improving conventional forces to enhancing SF capabilities. Gen Lidder (one of the founders of the Indian SF in 68) is quoted as saying: " Our present SF units are not really capable of conducting special operations". He believes India needs and independent SF command along the lines of SOCOM.
Considering India is the victim of increased terrorist activity (third in the world in 2008) then financial resources must be diverted and spent on domestic security (separate from COIN). I know plans are in place to dramatically improve the artillery moving away from obsolete 122mm and 105mm but how can India justify continued money being poured into conventional equipment when terrorism continues to be a major issue unless there is a huge rise in spending?
Fairly critical in areas, particularly when discussing the state of the army (Navy and Airforce modernization plans on track). According to senior army commanders interviewed of the 3,000 main battle tanks (T-72, T72M1s, T90S, T-55's), along with 1, 000 BMP2, only 300 are capable of engaging in a night time action (following project Rhino upgrades to T72M1), the T90S Thales systems are proving too unreliable and cannot be deployed due to heat issues. However plans are afoot to improve the situation aimed at gaining an edge over the current crop of Pakistan MBT's which are night capable (JDW21Jan09).
Now with the need to divert funds to improve the SF's domestic response infrastructure, which is going to prove an expensive exercise because of the shear size of India I'm convinced funds will have to be diverted from improving conventional forces to enhancing SF capabilities. Gen Lidder (one of the founders of the Indian SF in 68) is quoted as saying: " Our present SF units are not really capable of conducting special operations". He believes India needs and independent SF command along the lines of SOCOM.
Considering India is the victim of increased terrorist activity (third in the world in 2008) then financial resources must be diverted and spent on domestic security (separate from COIN). I know plans are in place to dramatically improve the artillery moving away from obsolete 122mm and 105mm but how can India justify continued money being poured into conventional equipment when terrorism continues to be a major issue unless there is a huge rise in spending?
Its India the armed forces, they always had shitty gear.
The SF modernisation and restrucring is not going to happen in every small town that we have plenty of, the terrorist are attacking (and have been attacking) centres of economy and culture, that is where the money will go, it wont require much. Completing the process in time will take ages in the bureaucratic mess that surrounds the place.
The current capability is pathetic, this cartoon somewhat predicts the airlift capability available to the NSG.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wh8W04dGH_8/ST1mmVuCCcI/AAAAAAAABAA/aX2NFHdrGOc/s320/041208.jpg
only 300 out of 3000 tanks are capable of night operations!!!
i suppose these are the Combat.Improved.Ajeya (project rhino)?
also isnt the indian army buying air conditioning for the t-90s to solve the heating issue ?
India is a very diverse country better described as a continent. Sadly there is a huge number of terrorist attacks in India with a myriad of ethnic, social, political and religious backgrounds, motivs and differing qualities of terror.
While I'm too a huge fan of the modern god of war (155m howitzers) India should focus more on fighting terrorism and adress the roots for some of it. So money is also greatly needed at the homefront.
While I'm too a huge fan of the modern god of war (155m howitzers) India should focus more on fighting terrorism and adress the roots for some of it. So money is also greatly needed at the homefront.
well agreed. but india also has neighbours with territorial ambitions...a good standing army is equally necessary.
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Anti Tank Missiles ordered
India goes for 'urgent' purchase of anti-tank missiles
27 Jan 2009; NEW DELHI: With tensions with Pakistan yet to abate and the indigenous "Nag'' missile still not operational, the Army has gone in for an "urgent order'' of 4,100 French-origin Milan-2T anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs).
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Army_urgently_orders_anti-tank_missiles/articleshow/4033783.cms
Well with this order and the previous order of 15000 Konkurs-M anti tank missiles, two things are certain the Nag is not upto the mark and the Indian Army's perception could be tht the Pakistani armoured elements could pose a very serious challenge esp with the Pakistan MBTs being night ops capable
India goes for 'urgent' purchase of anti-tank missiles
27 Jan 2009; NEW DELHI: With tensions with Pakistan yet to abate and the indigenous "Nag'' missile still not operational, the Army has gone in for an "urgent order'' of 4,100 French-origin Milan-2T anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs).
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Army_urgently_orders_anti-tank_missiles/articleshow/4033783.cms
Well with this order and the previous order of 15000 Konkurs-M anti tank missiles, two things are certain the Nag is not upto the mark and the Indian Army's perception could be tht the Pakistani armoured elements could pose a very serious challenge esp with the Pakistan MBTs being night ops capable
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Brahmos to Be Tested Again Within a Month
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...o_Be_Tested_Again_Within_a_Month160016966.php
Apparently there was a glitch in the software which is part of the new guidance/homing scheme and this has been rectified and has been retested on simulations and can be actualy tested out in the new tests. Am sure this will be sucessful in the tone of the BrahMos Aerospace chief who spoke to the media about the same
After the failure of this launch the BrahMos Corp has immediately announced another test within a month
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...o_Be_Tested_Again_Within_a_Month160016966.php
Apparently there was a glitch in the software which is part of the new guidance/homing scheme and this has been rectified and has been retested on simulations and can be actualy tested out in the new tests. Am sure this will be sucessful in the tone of the BrahMos Aerospace chief who spoke to the media about the same
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Parachute Regiment
The Indian Army cammandos are currently under the Parachute regiment. During the National Republic Day parade on 26th Jan09 the Parachute regiment led the Marching contigent of the Indian Armed forces, they actually were not marching they were doing something like a jog only more disciplined and with heavy steps
They were carrying some kind of a weapon i havent seen other forces in India use before, can anyone provide inputs on it
The Indian Army cammandos are currently under the Parachute regiment. During the National Republic Day parade on 26th Jan09 the Parachute regiment led the Marching contigent of the Indian Armed forces, they actually were not marching they were doing something like a jog only more disciplined and with heavy steps
They were carrying some kind of a weapon i havent seen other forces in India use before, can anyone provide inputs on it
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Indian Army gets amphibious force
News Update !
The Indian Army is set to induct next month its first fully equiped Amphibious Brigade (3000 soldiers). This is the first time India will be experimenting with US Marines model on full fledged dedicated manner. The INS Jalashawa (earlier USN Trenton) as well as Landing Ships like INS Shardul will probably be associated with this brigade. It will be called the 91 Infantry Brigade. Well with this brigade it looks like India in the recent past has initiated and deployed a lot of commands which are specialised in nature, like the Aerospace Command, Nuclear Command Authority, Tri Services Command, Strategic Forces Command etc and now this Amphibious Brigade
links
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090130/jsp/frontpage/story_10460609.jsp
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200901291651.htm
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/land/indian_army/20090130_indian_army_induct.html
News Update !
The Indian Army is set to induct next month its first fully equiped Amphibious Brigade (3000 soldiers). This is the first time India will be experimenting with US Marines model on full fledged dedicated manner. The INS Jalashawa (earlier USN Trenton) as well as Landing Ships like INS Shardul will probably be associated with this brigade. It will be called the 91 Infantry Brigade. Well with this brigade it looks like India in the recent past has initiated and deployed a lot of commands which are specialised in nature, like the Aerospace Command, Nuclear Command Authority, Tri Services Command, Strategic Forces Command etc and now this Amphibious Brigade
links
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090130/jsp/frontpage/story_10460609.jsp
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200901291651.htm
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/land/indian_army/20090130_indian_army_induct.html