Eurofighter Typhoon Discussion Thread

[Vivendi]

Now, that´s what i call extreme optimism from EUROFIGHTER GMBH!



http://www.eurofighter.com/po_bl.asp?id=95

Australia was seen as a strong potential Typhoon operator a decade ago... Not now.

Could it be that the Australian governement want to do a Norwegian variant here...? Meaning, invite a second plane as a "competitor" in order to push LM on price and "offsets". The "competitor" has of course no chances of winning.... There is no doubt anymore that this is what Norway did to Saab. Eurofighter recognized this and pulled out of Norway (and Denmark). Therefore I don't expect Eurofighter to fall for this trick in Australia (if that is indeed what is behind this).

In any case SH would probably be a more likely "competitor"; it's US made and already ordered by Australia as a stop gap... Typhoon in Australia would not make any sense whatsoever.

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[Aussie Digger]

Could it be that the Australian governement want to do a Norwegian variant here...? Meaning, invite a second plane as a "competitor" in order to push LM on price and "offsets". The "competitor" has of course no chances of winning.... There is no doubt anymore that this is what Norway did to Saab. Eurofighter recognized this and pulled out of Norway (and Denmark). Therefore I don't expect Eurofighter to fall for this trick in Australia (if that is indeed what is behind this).

In any case SH would probably be a more likely "competitor"; it's US made and already ordered by Australia as a stop gap... Typhoon in Australia would not make any sense whatsoever.

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A load of bollocks. The Defence Minister was on a guided tour and was shown to the Eurofighter production facilities in Spain (as he was there to view the progress on our A330 AAR's too).

Somehow this translates to serious interest, despite already having a current in-production competitor to Typhoon on order.

This statement is ridiculous.

 

[gf0012-aust]

A load of bollocks. The Defence Minister was on a guided tour and was shown to the Eurofighter production facilities in Spain (as he was there to view the progress on our A330 AAR's too).

Somehow this translates to serious interest, despite already having a current in-production competitor to Typhoon on order.

This statement is ridiculous.

The Govt is not even remotely interested in Typhoon. it's more expensive anyway than the Super Hornet.

The tour was a "show and tell" - not a "show and sell"

too many over active imaginations. there's more mileage in playing off Shornet than JSF - and besides, we're getting far more access to other "goodies" (incl non aviation gear) by buying american.

 

[METEORSWARM]

EOC 3 reduction IR , EOC4 reduction RCS, Typhoon has a rcs of 0,250 rcs clean unarmed I do not see that value can be put at further reducing the rcs except that postage or designing weapons stealht for the pillars of cargo. Misiles stealth,etc

One detail that caught my attention is that they say .... Advancing the concept stealth, ¿does the concept Stealth for Europeans is different from that proposed in the United States?

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9639/typhoonevolutionzm2yc1.jpg

 

[gf0012-aust]

One detail that caught my attention is that they say .... Advancing the concept stealth, ¿does the concept Stealth for Europeans is different from that proposed in the United States?

It's a meaningless statement.

Every type of US manned VLO platform built has used different technology concepts from its predecessor.

There is "no" US "stealth" concept as such. It's been iterative

 

[ginov]

hi mates!did you hear something about 24 typhoons UK tries to sell them to OMAN?

 

[Gust.Avrakotos]

hi mates!did you hear something about 24 typhoons UK tries to sell them to OMAN?

The UK sells alot of kit to Oman.

 

[Falstaff]

hi mates!did you hear something about 24 typhoons UK tries to sell them to OMAN?

There's a thread for that here.

 

[ginov]

thanks mate!!!

 

[PeterCrisp]

I know I may be being harsh here but why is it taking so long to get the Eurofighters of the RAF out to Iraq/Afghanistan with multi-role capability where they can actually be of some use other than appearing on shows hosted by the Top Gear team? Sure the Eurofighter looked great when James May was in the back seat but flying round England and racing Veyrons is not exactly helping our troops (other than giving then great telly to watch while not fighting).

I know they need changing from purely Air to Air but it feels like it's taking an age and the wars where they can help may be over before they see any action.

 

[rattmuff]

I know I may be being harsh here but why is it taking so long to get the Eurofighters of the RAF out to Iraq/Afghanistan with multi-role capability where they can actually be of some use other than appearing on shows hosted by the Top Gear team?

There isn't enough of them in RAF? No need for it? Not yet fully reliable? Not enough pilots? Not enough trained people? Is it even under consideration?

It isn't easy.

 

[Sintra]

I know I may be being harsh here but why is it taking so long to get the Eurofighters of the RAF out to Iraq/Afghanistan with multi-role capability where they can actually be of some use other than appearing on shows hosted by the Top Gear team? Sure the Eurofighter looked great when James May was in the back seat but flying round England and racing Veyrons is not exactly helping our troops (other than giving then great telly to watch while not fighting).

I know they need changing from purely Air to Air but it feels like it's taking an age and the wars where they can help may be over before they see any action.

How many sqn´s of Tornado FMK3 are operational?
How many sqn´s of Typhoon´s are operational? (Discount 17(R) sqn, they are over worked training new pilots, maintaining detch´s to the USA, introducing new "exploding things", tactics, etc, etc, etc)
How many sqn´s of fast jet´s are needed to maintain QRA over Great Britain?

There you go...

Also, there are twelve sqn´s worth of Tonkas GR4 and Harriers perfectly capable of doing CAS.

And the Typhoon will be the backbone of the RAF for the next thirty years, unless GBritain goes the "Swiss way" there will be a lot of "blood, sweat and tears" for the "Phoon" force.

 

[dragonfire]

Can anyone tell me why on the typhoon there is a small hole near the fuselage on the wings, its listed as a Emission Outlet or something on the tech specs, but i havent noticed anything like this on any other fighter, also why is it placed there and wht kind of emissions could this be

And pls help me someone on how to post bigger looking images -wht ever id do it comes as only thumbnails

 

[Scorpion82]

Can anyone tell me why on the typhoon there is a small hole near the fuselage on the wings, its listed as a Emission Outlet or something on the tech specs, but i havent noticed anything like this on any other fighter, also why is it placed there and wht kind of emissions could this be

And pls help me someone on how to post bigger looking images -wht ever id do it comes as only thumbnails

It's the APU exhaust and you will find it on all aircraft with an APU, but the position of the exhaust is different from aircraft to aircraft.

 

[METEORSWARM]

Efa with 6 bombs 1000lb + 4 amraam +2 asraam + tank 1000 l fuel.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxB7lB5-gnU"]YouTube - Eurofighter Typhoon + Warload[/ame]

 

[dragonfire]

Can anyone tell me wht's the capacity of a Tranche III or Tranche II Typhoon in terms of offensive weaponry in weight it can carry (max), during the Aero India the Super Viper was claiming the highest weight carrying capacity amongst all the MMRCA contenders at around 6000 Kilos, i was till then assuming it could be the Typhoon (13 hardpoints including one for the tank/pod) or the Super Hornet (bigger fighter thn the F-16)

 

[Scorpion82]

Can anyone tell me wht's the capacity of a Tranche III or Tranche II Typhoon in terms of offensive weaponry in weight it can carry (max), during the Aero India the Super Viper was claiming the highest weight carrying capacity amongst all the MMRCA contenders at around 6000 Kilos, i was till then assuming it could be the Typhoon (13 hardpoints including one for the tank/pod) or the Super Hornet (bigger fighter thn the F-16)

Usually 6500 kg with an upper max of 7500 kg. That this load is achieved in any operational configuration is unlikely however. You could have to 2x 1400 kg CRMs, 4 x 185 kg Meteor, 2 x 90 kg SRAAM, 1 x 760 kg tank (1000 l) and 4 x 500 kg bombs. That would give a payload of ~6.5 t and that's the heaviest configuration you can think of taking projected weapons/stores into account. The theoretical max payload is in many cases nothing else than the summation of weights which all the different pylons are cleared for.

 

[dragonfire]

Usually 6500 kg with an upper max of 7500 kg. That this load is achieved in any operational configuration is unlikely however. You could have to 2x 1400 kg CRMs, 4 x 185 kg Meteor, 2 x 90 kg SRAAM, 1 x 760 kg tank (1000 l) and 4 x 500 kg bombs. That would give a payload of ~6.5 t and that's the heaviest configuration you can think of taking projected weapons/stores into account. The theoretical max payload is in many cases nothing else than the summation of weights which all the different pylons are cleared for.

Thanks Scorpion, maybe the F-16IN has 8000Kg capacity, its unlikely tht the Lockhed ppl would have mentioned specifics without researching - i'll go and chk my materials again

For the various operational/mission based configuration of armaments on the typhoon check out the eurofighter typhoon website and the maximum missiles is carried in the CAS role with 18 x Brimstone, 4 x BVRAAM, 2 x SRAAM, 27mm Mauser - gun and 1 x 1000 litre fuel tank

 

[Scorpion82]

For the various operational/mission based configuration of armaments on the typhoon check out the eurofighter typhoon website and the maximum missiles is carried in the CAS role with 18 x Brimstone, 4 x BVRAAM, 2 x SRAAM, 27mm Mauser - gun and 1 x 1000 litre fuel tank

Well that configuration isn't the heaviest in terms of maximum payload.
This configuration is more "heavy" in terms of payload, though you could replace the 2 inner ASRAAM with bombs in the 1000 lb class:

 

[METEORSWARM]

Typhoon max cargo 8000kg.