Colombia to Spend $235 Mln for Air Force Aircraft

contedicavour

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I don't leave till Jan 1st for Norfolk. At least I get to enjoy New Years and let the hangover wear off on the flight up. :) I was checking into the faster antenna upgrade for CVNs and it looks like all have been fitted. As long as I don't get bumped off it should be good enough for browsing. Question is "will I have to pull rank for computer time?" :lol2
Cool you'll be with us then between one flight and another. :D
Wouldn't have been fun without your posts ;)

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charly307

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Well Peru operates Fitters SU20/22 which are indeed good for a museum, but the SU30 Chavez is buying will beat any air force fighter south of the Rio Grande and that's a problem.
Even the few Mirage 2000 Brazil is buying second hand or the new F16s Chile is buying (though without Amraam ?) are inferior to the latest SU30s.
Hence my suggestion Colombia does something about it... what about taking second hand US ANG F-15A/Bs (or C/Ds but I think we're dreaming here) ?

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100% agree. Venezuela's SU30MK2V can beat any aircraft in the area. Chile did buy just 10 F16 block50 and also bought 18 second hand F16s ..not good ehough for 24 new Su-30's
 
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Aussie Digger

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100% agree. Venezuela's SU30MK2V can beat any aircraft in the area. Chile did buy just 10 F16 block50 and also bought 18 second hand F16s ..not good ehough for 24 new Su-30's
Depends on what you're talking about my friend. I would (nearly) bet my house on Chile's F-16's having a greater availability rate. SU-30's dogfighting skills aren't so superior when they're grounded at twice or 3 times the rate, are they?

I'm not so certain the SU-30 is quite as capable as it's made out to be either. Relying on Cope India results, is hardly a gauge of how capable they really are, yet it's all anyone seems to be able to quote to show their supposed superority, apart from the marketing specs...
 

contedicavour

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Depends on what you're talking about my friend. I would (nearly) bet my house on Chile's F-16's having a greater availability rate. SU-30's dogfighting skills aren't so superior when they're grounded at twice or 3 times the rate, are they?

I'm not so certain the SU-30 is quite as capable as it's made out to be either. Relying on Cope India results, is hardly a gauge of how capable they really are, yet it's all anyone seems to be able to quote to show their supposed superority, apart from the marketing specs...
IMHO SU30s with AA12 have a fairly good chance of downing F16s or Mirage 2000 equipped with Israeli Derby for pure reasons of higher range and more powerful radars.
Since my previous post I learned Chile does have Amraams after all, though AIM120B apparently (and not C/D), so that may even out odds a bit.
Also, if the SU30s come with Uran anti-shipping missiles or other standoff ASMs, that makes them quite a nuisance since neighboring air forces lack that sort of ordance AFAIK

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