Amphibious ships for small navies

KiwiRob

Well-Known Member
When I read the Coles report, didn't he criticized New Zealand for not setting up a supply line chain as well. Even though the ship is mostly commercial parts bought off the shelf, much of the parts for the Canterbury are of European make. While the OPVs and IPVs were built locally in Australia and New Zealand, and with companies that have license agreements for parts, this is not the case with the Canterbury. Being able to find and acquire spare parts in the future is very important, as important as building the ship in the first place.
I know the searchlights were purchased from Norselight in Norway for the entire protector fleet, you could't get a longer supply chain from Halden to Devonport, the company doesn't even have a New Zealand agent.
 

mattyem

New Member
When I read the Coles report, didn't he criticized New Zealand for not setting up a supply line chain as well. Even though the ship is mostly commercial parts bought off the shelf, much of the parts for the Canterbury are of European make. While the OPVs and IPVs were built locally in Australia and New Zealand, and with companies that have license agreements for parts, this is not the case with the Canterbury. Being able to find and acquire spare parts in the future is very important, as important as building the ship in the first place.

Its comforting to buy a ship the parent navy has in its inventory on the basics of spare parts alone. What may be commercial parts bought off the shelf today may not be so in thirty years. There has been a reason why New Zealand has bought in the past British, and recently Australian built ships. Its been said before that New Zealand could go alone and buy cheaper ships on their own designed for New Zealand's needs. Project Protector is an example of doing this, as neither the Americans, British, or Australians have such ships in their inventory.

Keep in mind I didn't bring this subject up, Mr. Coles did.
I serve on board canterbury or "CY" as its known amoungst the sailors. Just to note we have many many many spare parts for canterbury. yes it was built in europe but much of the final fitting took place in australia by tenix.

We have stores numbers for everything on ship and in order to get parts we just tell the stores accountants what we need and it arrives in a surprisingly short time for what you would expect.

In the military thingsa arrive abit faster than in the civvie world when you need them!
 

Sea Toby

New Member
Yes, parts off the shelf are easy to find and get today, but thirty or forty years from now the story will be different. There is a reason why navies decommission ships when they aged to the point parts are hard to find.
 

mattyem

New Member
Yes, parts off the shelf are easy to find and get today, but thirty or forty years from now the story will be different. There is a reason why navies decommission ships when they aged to the point parts are hard to find.
I cant really see us operating her that long, maybe upto 25 years which is the norm. Id say parts wont be that hard to find, all systems onboard are pretty generric and not that specialized of unique. Is there any spefic equipment that you are refering two??
 

mattyem

New Member
all ships commissioned have an expected service length, parts do count for that but its not the deciding factor in why you decomission a ship.
Hull integrity, expected weight gain which is factered at a percentage per year. Changes in technology which affect running costs and service viabillity.
And that combined with the issues she is still having I cant envission a service life heading into the 30 yr plus mark anyway.
Its the same with everyship, not just canterbury
 
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