MARKMILES77
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Has the basis for the Boeing F-47 actually been hiding in "plane" site for years?
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On the heels of the F-47 NGAD announcement the US is expected to announce its decision on the F/A-xx program this week. The decision looks like it will come down to Boeing or Northrop Grumman.
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Some guy put in Weibo then later on circulate on online media. This is quite clear picture of China J36 approaching landing. Seems despite China told their enthusiasts to tone down put close video on the supposedly still secretive assets, some still doing it.
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Bhartiya sainik
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Some 3D artist imagined & made 3D model & animation of F-47, whose fuselage looks like F/A-XX concept, upward tilted wings remind of Bird-of-Prey, engine bay hump reminds of YF-23.
So F-47 NGAD = F/A-XX + BoP + YF-23.
I'm putting a smaller collage as the images are huge, bigger than the collage.
Some selected screenshots from animation showing specific angles to show airframe shape, parts:
So F-47 NGAD = F/A-XX + BoP + YF-23.
I'm putting a smaller collage as the images are huge, bigger than the collage.
Some selected screenshots from animation showing specific angles to show airframe shape, parts:
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Stealth canards, so stealthy they can't be photo/videoed...did Trump fail to mention that??
Terran
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The image released was a CGI and it does show Canards. However that release followed the same course as other US and European projects where they would release a CGI render upon contract unlike in 2000 when they gave us a whole documentary about the project.Stealth canards, so stealthy they can't be photo/videoed...did Trump fail to mention that??
Now personally I think mustaches look good on pilots not on Aircraft. However the meme…
The Canards issue it the joint between the Fuselage and the Canard. It’s the same issue as on a horizontal stabilizer on a jet like F22 or F35 they also create a problem point for radar return. The difference is where the joint is located. To be seen on a Canard fighter it’s right up front. If the radar is nose on there it is.
on the Horizontal stabilizer it’s from the 6 O’clock. So from the nose the Wing root is in the way.
However we are now in the Year of our lord 2025. F35 is 20 years old and F22 is 30 and J20 is 15. In between then and now has been a lot of potential to solve this problem for F47. Boeing and NASA spent the last 1.5 decades working on morphing aerodynamic control surfaces. A technology that could eliminate the seem between the fuselage and the canard. Still… I wish it had a pelican tail rather than a mustache.
Bhartiya sainik
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Ultimately the final RCS return matters using geometry + RAS + RAM + EW. It is a collective effort of different aspects. F-22 has big rudders but still its frontal RCS is lowest. So we can imagine its rudders removed & positioned as canard. The joint/edges b/w fuselage & any control surfaces (rudder, slat, stab, canard) are already slanted/tapered from both sides.
The following is example of F-22's slats allignment with wing root.
For 4gen jets it mattered a lot as they don't use RAS, RAM, geometry. their MLUed 4.5gen uses limitedly as the airframe design is obsolete.
Bhartiya sainik
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Another artist's good imagination:
> This is tandem tri-plane, but putting canard just in front of intake could obstruct airflow, unless onlyouter 2/3rd or half of canard moves.
> Bcoz of darkened flag in poster, some people are still speculating small all-moving rudders.
> Like Bird-of-Prey the wing can still be slightly tilted up with with drooped winglet, but He forgot to allign the bend-axis longitudinally parallel to length. Such wing adds to stability while a fighter needs to be unstable for agility.
> Such platipus like flatter nose could mean lesser pitch agility & little more RCS return by nose.
> Overall this looks like 1 engine exportable jet. I wonder how in Trump's words "nothing even comes close from speed to maneuverability to payload" & this is "most advanced, capable, lethal".
> This is tandem tri-plane, but putting canard just in front of intake could obstruct airflow, unless onlyouter 2/3rd or half of canard moves.
> Bcoz of darkened flag in poster, some people are still speculating small all-moving rudders.
> Like Bird-of-Prey the wing can still be slightly tilted up with with drooped winglet, but He forgot to allign the bend-axis longitudinally parallel to length. Such wing adds to stability while a fighter needs to be unstable for agility.
> Such platipus like flatter nose could mean lesser pitch agility & little more RCS return by nose.
> Overall this looks like 1 engine exportable jet. I wonder how in Trump's words "nothing even comes close from speed to maneuverability to payload" & this is "most advanced, capable, lethal".
Bhartiya sainik
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Another artist imagines F-47 little longer, dihedral wing with anhedral winglet.
The wing root is shifted back & intakes are also much behind, not enough space for serpentine duct, so engine would be visible.
Engine bays are apart & middle space filled like in Su-57, so might have tandem IWBs.
Perfect side, front, bottom images not available.
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The wing root is shifted back & intakes are also much behind, not enough space for serpentine duct, so engine would be visible.
Engine bays are apart & middle space filled like in Su-57, so might have tandem IWBs.
Perfect side, front, bottom images not available.
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Bhartiya sainik
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Some 3D artist imagined & made 3D model & animation of F-47, whose fuselage looks like F/A-XX concept, upward tilted wings remind of Bird-of-Prey, engine bay hump reminds of YF-23.
So F-47 NGAD = F/A-XX + BoP + YF-23.
I'm putting a smaller collage as the images are huge, bigger than the collage.
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Some selected screenshots from animation showing specific angles to show airframe shape, parts:
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The artist has updated a modified version w/o canard stating that USN doesn't wan't canards.
Well, this is opposite expectation if USAF wants canards but not USN bcoz the wing leading edge has high sweep angle means higher landing speed w/o canard.
I'm posting a collage again as the images are huge.
> Perhaps the nose & chine need more blending like in Rodrigo Avellas F/A-X concept for bigger & wider coverage radar.
> Wings have been made little Lambda style than Delta earlier.
> There doesn't seem to be any winglet.
> Intakes have DSI. The intake lower edge is ahead of upper edge (blended with wing root). This can be a problem if high AoA & tight turn is desired as some air can slip out over wing causing insufficient air flow & compressor stall. Giving aux-intakes below or moving lip like in EF-2000 would increase complexity & RCS.
> Parallel IWB not tandem & SWB have been marked.
> Engine bays quite far separated, the duct may not be serpentine enough, engine would be visible.
> Exhaust look like that of YF-23 w/o TVC.
It seems that this is going to become a standard look of all 6gen jets.
Blame game already started on who's copying whom.
It is bcoz of planform shaping fundamental started since 5gen.