Use statistic and you find what it was tens of thousands under Saddam regime for 25 years. Unless, of course, you want to include dead in Iran-Iraq war.Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died under Saddam's regime. Mass graves, torture chambers and rape rooms have been documented. He was convicted and executed for genocide of Iraqis. The current situation is unacceptable, but it's still better than it was.
Just in 4 years USA presence where are indeed hundreds of thousands dead.
I already gave you examples about USSR occuping USA. "Americans killing americans!!!" - how it sounds? It is always like that in civil war. But civil war IS CAUSED DIRECTLY BY USA ACTIONS. tIraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop it. While our military is an outstanding fighting force, we are not an effective police force, especially given the circumstances there.
Thats why USA is quilty.
Tens of thousands iraqis die directly from USA weapons when american soldiers fight back "rebels". Of course, USA soldiers dont want more civil deads. Of course, they do all they can to avoid casualities. But such is nature of the war - civilians DIE. I dont have simple answer what should be done NOW, with all big mess USA caused. Pulling out will not reduce casualities. The main mistake was done 4 years ago, when USA atacked Iraq. We shouldnt let that happend again with other country.Of course the US is guilty of putting womens underwear on prisoners' heads-a war crimes tribunal should probably be convened.
Kim also earned his money within his society rules. May be NK society rules are less advanced than USA society rules - but that still dont give right to kill NK peoples. Moreover, in the case of Kim he just recived all the power & money from his parents just as, funny, Bush recived power & money from his parents.Your reasoning is seriously flawed. If Falstaff were spending hundreds of thousands on wine-that would be his business if he earned the money, unless his family was starving.
But its YOU suggesting to Kim to dontate all HIS money to poor NK childrens, no?Suggesting that he sell his car and donate the money to African children is as foolish as if he were to suggest that you donate all your blood.
He earns his money under flawed western society rules - just as, for example, slave user legitimately earned his money from slave work 300 years ago. Note, slave user itself is not quilty in slavery - he just live in such time and use all means to prosper. But we all know what slavery is BAD. I'm sure, in 200 years everyone will know what current western form of capitalism where some peoples posses billions butComparing Bill Gates to Kim is also lunacy. I'm not a fan of Gates, but he earns his money and he donates billions to charity, including fighting AIDS and starvation in Africa.
some starving is BAD.
What i mean? Kim lives under different society rules. We should try to change these rules, and NOT try to hurt simple peoples under Kim regime by locking legitimately earned NK moneys.
GB Queen "co-opted the GB treasury and lives like a king while the GB people starve". Make about as much sence. There is no doubt what Queen recive money from goverment. There is not doubt some peoples in GB starve or overwise lack money to survive (medical care, etc). Where is no doubt Bush alone spend 100 times on his luxury item than Kim, not to tell about other USA magnates. And what?Kim has co-opted the NK treasury and lives like a king while the NK people starve.
Just understand it - NK have DIFFERENT society. In that society goods are distributed not throught owned property like Wallmart, Ford or Microsoft - but throught peoples place in NK govement hiearchy. Both approaches can work better or worse. For example, many African/ Latain Amercan countries are poor and starve despite being fully capitalistic.
Partially, sanction are responsible. It is not only direct deny of selling/buying same goods, but also agressive sanctions against own and foreign companies what want to do business with NK.You insist on blaming the US and believing that sanctions are responsible for NK's starving. As pointed out by Grand Danois, there are no meaningful sanctions on NK and in particular there are no sanctions food.
For the most part yes. Still, i see no point making NK peoples lives worse.Kim's corruption and mismanagement are to blame.
Believe me, in 200 years peoples will wonder same thing about current USA regime and current West Europe regime. While currently they have best form of society around - it is still not flawless.With so little to live for, it's surprising that the people of NK haven't revolted against the little dic tator.
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