Singapore to acquire Leopard 2A4s

eckherl

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Like shown for example by Spain (Which operates them in on of the hottest places on earth) the normal funtion of a Leopard II is not compromised by heat so including a normal air condition for the crew makes the Leopard II capable of operating in hot conditions.

It is not as if it could not operate without air condition but constant high temeperature inside of a tank just reduces crew performance.
Yes - we did not have it on the M60A1 or A3s plus the M1IPs and we did just fine with these tanks in desert environments and in South Korea. At least on the M1A1 we could turn on the overpressure system and this would help out.:)
 

Waylander

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Jup, the NBC system works.

But nowadays an air condition is not really an expensive item and it just helps you staying comfortable and showing the infantry that you deserve such luxury. :D

It is not a have to but a logical, cheap and easy upgrade for countries having constant high temperatures during summertime.
 

eckherl

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Jup, the NBC system works.

But nowadays an air condition is not really an expensive item and it just helps you staying comfortable and showing the infantry that you deserve such luxury. :D

It is not a have to but a logical, cheap and easy upgrade for countries having constant high temperatures during summertime.
I used get a kick at how many infantry used to hang out at the rear of the M1 series due to the heat from the exhaust, also during evening times if we were not on manuvers they would ask to sleep on the back deck of the tanks to keep warm. I agree with you that we have reached a time with armor that all tanks should have AC, even the Russians are doing it.:)
 

eckherl

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I hope you haven't gave them the best place on your tanks aka the back deck! :D

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You are going to think that I am crazy, but I actually had a West German tankers sleeping bag, you know the universal style that could be turned into a parka, I would get in this and actually sleep near my TC`s override in a sitting position while the driver slept in the drivers position and my gunner and loader slept on top of the turret. The older I get though, the more I wish I hadn`t done that.
 
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You are going to think that I am crazy, but I actually had a West German tankers sleeping bag, you know the universal style that could be turned into a parka, I would get in this and actually sleep near my TC`s override in a sitting position while the driver slept in the drivers position and my gunner and loader slept on top of the turret. The older I get though, the more I wish I hadn`t done that.
That's why I loved the old M113, as useless a piece of it as it may be operationally. Plenty of room in the back to stack packs, "ech" bags etc against the bench seats and you've got 2 lovely "single beds" in the back, whilst grunts are lying in the ground...

If only they'd let me wear the "knee high" polished Black leather boots and Afrika Corps hat on exercise when I became a crew commander, I would have been one happy chappy... I might not have discharged either... :eek:nfloorl:
 

Waylander

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@eckherl
Yes your are for sure crazy.
Giving away the best places. :eek:

The best sleeping vehicle I ever slept in was a M113 in the medic version. REAL BEDS AND FEMALE MEDICS!!!! :nutkick :D
(Okay, they looked like human gavins but definitely better than my 110kg/195cm loader ;) )
 

Smythstar

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Its truely amazing just how great a female looks (even an average one the size of a refrigerator) after being out bush for 3 or 4 weeks straight.

Haha any holes a goal mate, the big girls need loving too :D
 

eckherl

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Its truely amazing just how great a female looks (even an average one the size of a refrigerator) after being out bush for 3 or 4 weeks straight.

Haha any holes a goal mate, the big girls need loving too :D
After the lights go out, she could be who ever you want her to be.:eek:nfloorl:
 

Chino

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In Singapore, the best-looking girls join the Air Force. The next best go to the Navy.
 
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gf0012-aust

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Fellas, can we not continue the discussion about women in this fashion.

I'm not a prude, and I would guess that a lot of us have been around the block, but there is no need to bring attention to it.

can you please sort out and edit your own posts appropriately and limit these reminisings to PM's

appreciated in advance.

gf
 

Waylander

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Sorry, for that.
Especially me who started this thing. :eek:

I think this just always happens when it comes to talking about being on a maneuver for weeks with a bunch of guys. :D

BTW, there is no edit button for previous posts.
 

akinkhoo

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In Singapore, the best-looking girls join the Air Force. The next best go to the Navy.
i seen a few cute ones... :D most are either married or is trying to hook a pilot... :D

err... on the topic.. i love the LEOs! :D cool tank, comes with lifetime warranty just like german cars! :rolleyes: surely these tank are to equal the PT91 procurement made by malaysia. :p:
 

old faithful

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That's why I loved the old M113, as useless a piece of it as it may be operationally. Plenty of room in the back to stack packs, "ech" bags etc against the bench seats and you've got 2 lovely "single beds" in the back, whilst grunts are lying in the ground...

If only they'd let me wear the "knee high" polished Black leather boots and Afrika Corps hat on exercise when I became a crew commander, I would have been one happy chappy... I might not have discharged either... :eek:nfloorl:
Yes...but while you were driving the cab, your customers(me)found your salami,s and other jack rations!
 
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Aussie Digger

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Yes...but while you were driving the cab, your customers(me)found your salami,s and other jack rations!
Ah, but we were "recon" by then, meaning you grunts had to find your own way about the battlefield...

Going recon equaled = "jackies galore"... It got to the point where our boss issued an order that we were only to bring 1x ech bag each on ex...
 

kotay

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Time to drag this thread out and give it a dusting ...

So ... we brought in one tank for trials on June 7 ...


From The Straits Times, Thursday 7 June 2007 ...

A NEW heavyweight is in town. The first of 66 German Leopard 2A4 tanks has arrived here to be put through its paces before being inducted into the army's arsenal. The main battle tank, spotted by The Straits Times close to the Safti live firing area last week, is here for 'local familiarisation trials', the Ministry of Defence said this week.
And we liked it so much, we bought another 36!

From The Straits Times, Sunday 1 July 2007 ...

The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be acquiring 36 more Lepoard 2A4 tanks, on top of the 66 it already purchased. It made the decision after putting the German-made main battle tanks through their paces here. "And we are very satisfied with their performance," said Defence Minister Teo Chee Hean, adding that they will be refurbished and brought into service over the next few years, along with a few more spares.
Just a re-cap, the initial purchase was for 96 tanks ... 66 + 30 "spares". This additional purchase will bring the total purchased to 132. Interesting way of categorising 30 of these purchases as spares, so that in future press releases they need not be mentioned anymore.
 

gary1910

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Just a re-cap, the initial purchase was for 96 tanks ... 66 + 30 "spares". This additional purchase will bring the total purchased to 132. Interesting way of categorising 30 of these purchases as spares, so that in future press releases they need not be mentioned anymore.
Not exactly....:D

36 + along with a few more spares.

If the few more spares are 12, then it will be 3x of.........:)
 

kato

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Going by the same percentage as for the initial buy, it'd be 16 spares, for a total of 148 ;)
 

caksz

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148 a very huge numbers :) , i'll heard some ppl said the tanks will be equip with
LAHAT is it true or just rumor ?
 
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