10 Countries Show Interest in Brahmos Missile

[johngage]

<< I would not be surprised to see brahmos missiles or their technology leaked to pakistan if sold to malaysia>>

I completely understand your concern. You have no desire for Indian tech to fall to the wrong hands. But surely you can install safeguards to prevent this from happening. One of them is an agreement in which Malaysia would face sanctions and the cessation of spare-parts and maintenance for the BRAHMOS if the tech was leaked.

Furthermore, reverse-engineering is not as easy as people think. If it were, I suspect we would be seeing clones made of the AMRAAM missile and the F-117 Stealth Fighter which was shot down in Serbia during Operation Allied Force (1998). You can't just take out electronic processors and start making copies of it. It would be near useless without the software, which you could encrypt. Even if Malaysia managed to break the encryption, all they would have is the binary code, not the source code which they could use or change. Even if we were to determine the hardware layout, we still would not be anywhere closer to developing our version of your missile.

This is not like commercial products where you have some documentation available. These are well guarded secrets, and it would take many years and many experienced people to figure it all out. But even then, trying to decipher the complex algorithms from binary or machine code is extremely difficult. Needless to say Malaysia neither has the experience nor expertise necessary to do this. But of course I am not denying that India has the right to sell to any country they wish.

 

[renjer]

somehow i would not trust malaysia as much as i would trust singapore,i feel malaysia is closer to pakistan than india ,since both malaysia and pakistan are predominently muslim countires.

i would not be surprised to see brahmos missiles or their technology leaked to pakistan if sold to malaysia.

i meen no offence with my post and iam sorry if i seem to be paranoid ,but many times before malaysia have expressed open support of pakistan and its policies and i feel that they are sympathetic to pakistan.

And this goes back to my previous post. Malaysia would be perfectly happy to buy Indian (or cooperate with her) but would buy from elsewhere if the GOI chooses not to sell to us. It would be wrong to believe that Malaysia would want to be dependant on any country but herself.

However, the sentiment expressed is disturbing. It does show that some posters are not able to analyze on a country-by-country basis.

 

[globaltracker]

I have read somewhere in other forums that a contingent of defence establishment have left for malaysia for the purpose of this Brahmos deal. If it is so as i have read, then malaysia would be the first export customer for this missile.

 

[aaaditya]

I have read somewhere in other forums that a contingent of defence establishment have left for malaysia for the purpose of this Brahmos deal. If it is so as i have read, then malaysia would be the first export customer for this missile.

i believe the brahmos would be a very valuable asset for malaysia(particularly the air launched version which can be fired from the malaysian su30mkm's),it will give the malaysian armed forces a potent weapon for use in that region,however i dont think countries like singapore ,thailand and indonesia would like it.i wonder how it would affect india's chances of entering into an alliance with the asean?

 

[globaltracker]

i believe the brahmos would be a very valuable asset for malaysia(particularly the air launched version which can be fired from the malaysian su30mkm's),it will give the malaysian armed forces a potent weapon for use in that region,however i dont think countries like singapore ,thailand and indonesia would like it.i wonder how it would affect india's chances of entering into an alliance with the asean?

I don't know about the air version of the brahmos but the reguler anti shim missile is being offered. On the ASEAN matter isn't malaysia one of the countries with thailand that has been pro india in the forum.

 

[johngage]

<<I don't know about the air version of the brahmos but the reguler anti shim missile is being offered. On the ASEAN matter isn't malaysia one of the countries with thailand that has been pro india in the forum>>

Globaltracker, do u have a link for this? I would be extremely interested to know which version has been offered, and any more details.

 

[renjer]

I believe the RMAF is the only service that is currently interested in the Brahmos. Therefore, the air-launched anti-ship version is the most likely version being offered by India.

Relationships between the ASEAN neighbours is definitely more cordial than that between India and Pakistan. Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia maintain good relations with both India and Pakistan and we have not felt it necessary to choose one over the other.

 

[aaaditya]

chile and thailand had also expressed interest in the brahmos cruise missile .chile was the first market in which this weapon was actively promoted.

 

[renjer]

When I referred to the RMAF I meant among the Malaysian armed services.

 

[Red aRRow]

Is there any evidence or a source stating this supposed exchange or intention of exchange b/w Malaysia and India. Or is it just a figment of some people's imagination?

 

[kams]

Is there any evidence or a source stating this supposed exchange or intention of exchange b/w Malaysia and India. Or is it just a figment of some people's imagination?

Malaysia Brahmos

October 05, 2006 16:22 PM

Malaysia May Buy Brahmos Missile From India


NEW DELHI, Oct 5 (Bernama) -- Malaysia may buy the Indo-Russian BrahMos supersonic cruise missile from India.

India's Defence Secretary, Shekhar Dutt, who visited Malaysia last month, pushed ahead discussions that could make the country the first foreign buyer of the missile, the English daily, the Indian Express, reported.

The visit, says the report, was the "first concerted push to develop the region as a market for New Delhi's new missile export policy".

-- BERNAMA

Thats the latest report on the subject.

 

[aaaditya]

the brahmos was also displayed in south africa ,though iam not sure if any african countries have a requirement for such a powerfull missile system.

 

[bluezhanqi]

nobody will buy it unless Russia or India equip its army first.

the brahmos was also displayed in south africa ,though iam not sure if any african countries have a requirement for such a powerfull missile system.

if RUssia and India do not buy this missile, no other coutries will buy.
so called 10 coutries is just a promotion.

 

[kams]

if RUssia and India do not buy this missile, no other coutries will buy.
so called 10 coutries is just a promotion.

Great first post. Read before posting.
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...ce__Sell_1_000_Supersonic_Cr_710616007106.php

 

[Chrom]

if RUssia and India do not buy this missile, no other coutries will buy.
so called 10 coutries is just a promotion.

Russia will not buy it for 100% sure. Brahmos is solely export project. India already bought it, so the point is set. The main problem here is what Brahmos in some forms (basicaly anything non-land based) take the same niche as other russian missiles - such as Yahont, upgraded Moskit and Kh-31. As such it might be downplayed by russians in some contracts...

 

[robinson_naz]

Brazil shows interest in buying Brahmos missile

NEW DELHI, DEC 4 (PTI)
Brazil has shown interest in becoming the first foreign nation to procure the 300-km range Brahmos cruise missile.

Commander of the Brazilian army Gen Francisco Roberto De Albuqurque now on a six-day state visit here today visited the Brahmos aerospace complex in Delhi cantonment. He also held discussions with the Brahmos project director S Pillai.

The South American nation has shown interest in acquiring the sea as well as surface to surface version of the Indo-Russian missiles.

While, the sea version of the missile has already entered service with the Indian Navy, the surface to surface version of missile has been cleared for induction early next year.

The Brazilian Chief of Defence Staff held discussion with Chairman Chiefs of staff Committee S P Tyagi, Army Chief J J Singh, Naval Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta and Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt.

He also called on the Defence Minister AK Antony.

During his stay in India, De Alburqurque will visit counter insurgency warfare school in Mizoram, Eastern Command headquarters, Line of control in Jammu and Kashmir and Agra.

 

[Jambock]

NEW DELHI, DEC 4 (PTI)
Brazil has shown interest in becoming the first foreign nation to procure the 300-km range Brahmos cruise missile.

Commander of the Brazilian army Gen Francisco Roberto De Albuqurque now on a six-day state visit here today visited the Brahmos aerospace complex in Delhi cantonment. He also held discussions with the Brahmos project director S Pillai.

The South American nation has shown interest in acquiring the sea as well as surface to surface version of the Indo-Russian missiles.

While, the sea version of the missile has already entered service with the Indian Navy, the surface to surface version of missile has been cleared for induction early next year.

The Brazilian Chief of Defence Staff held discussion with Chairman Chiefs of staff Committee S P Tyagi, Army Chief J J Singh, Naval Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta and Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt.

He also called on the Defence Minister AK Antony.

During his stay in India, De Alburqurque will visit counter insurgency warfare school in Mizoram, Eastern Command headquarters, Line of control in Jammu and Kashmir and Agra.

This notice is false, the Brazilian army does not have interest in Brahmos.

 

[Big-E]

This notice is false, the Brazilian army does not have interest in Brahmos.

Adding Brahmos to Brazil's naval inventory would be a nice upgrade.

 

[SATAN]

Some interesting news regarding the so called "indian" Brahmos cruise missile from its Manufacturer.



Brahmos Cruise Missile Overshadowing Russian Missiles

Dated 14/12/2006
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Several Russian missile makers have accused India of discrediting their weapon systems and spoiling their chances in the global market through the aggressive marketing of the BrahMos cruise missile developed jointly by the two countries.

Brahmos aerospace, a joint venture of the two countries, has discredited export versions of Russian anti- ship missiles like Moskit (NATO name Sunburn) and Club, the military news wire of the official news agency Itar-Tass said.

During a recent defence expo in Indonesia, BrahMos aerospace displayed a poster comparing the characteristics of its missile with those of other missiles available in the international market, the report said.

The news agency said BrahMos aerospace's marketing activities at Jakarta were directed at "discrediting and squeezing" Russian anti-ship missiles out of the global market. Quoting unnamed defence industry officials, it questioned the expediency of joint ventures with foreign countries like the BrahMos project.

The BrahMos, named after the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers, is described by India and Russia as an example of the cutting edge defence hardware that can be created through cooperation. The missile has been inducted into the Indian Navy.

An Arms-Tass correspondent was told by several officials of the Russian defence industry at the Indonesian exhibition that BrahMos was fielded against not only missiles of third countries but also Russian missile systems like Moskit, Club and KH-55, the agency reported.

The BrahMos poster was virtually an "anti-ad" of the Russian anti-ship missiles, said the report, which also virtually accused "Indian specialists" of lying as characteristics quoted by them are supposed to be Russia's "top secrets" to which they could never have any access.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...cuse_India_of_discrediting_weapons3009507.php

 

[DragonKing786]

Some interesting news regarding the so called "indian" Brahmos cruise missile from its Manufacturer.



Brahmos Cruise Missile Overshadowing Russian Missiles

Dated 14/12/2006
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Several Russian missile makers have accused India of discrediting their weapon systems and spoiling their chances in the global market through the aggressive marketing of the BrahMos cruise missile developed jointly by the two countries.

Brahmos aerospace, a joint venture of the two countries, has discredited export versions of Russian anti- ship missiles like Moskit (NATO name Sunburn) and Club, the military news wire of the official news agency Itar-Tass said.

During a recent defence expo in Indonesia, BrahMos aerospace displayed a poster comparing the characteristics of its missile with those of other missiles available in the international market, the report said.

The news agency said BrahMos aerospace's marketing activities at Jakarta were directed at "discrediting and squeezing" Russian anti-ship missiles out of the global market. Quoting unnamed defence industry officials, it questioned the expediency of joint ventures with foreign countries like the BrahMos project.

The BrahMos, named after the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers, is described by India and Russia as an example of the cutting edge defence hardware that can be created through cooperation. The missile has been inducted into the Indian Navy.

An Arms-Tass correspondent was told by several officials of the Russian defence industry at the Indonesian exhibition that BrahMos was fielded against not only missiles of third countries but also Russian missile systems like Moskit, Club and KH-55, the agency reported.

The BrahMos poster was virtually an "anti-ad" of the Russian anti-ship missiles, said the report, which also virtually accused "Indian specialists" of lying as characteristics quoted by them are supposed to be Russia's "top secrets" to which they could never have any access.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/pub...cuse_India_of_discrediting_weapons3009507.php

nfloorl: nfloorl: Nice way to treat people who helped you make a missile.