10 Countries Show Interest in Brahmos Missile
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keshto patel
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srirangan said:
Bravo Brahmos
Modern day warfare technology which is privy to western powers and Russia is slowly inching up towards Indian shores in the guise of thrust vectoring system, powerful phased array radars, sophisticated avionics, precision guidance mechanism, and telemetry – some of the components that are embedded in our cruise missiles, also known as currency of power in conventional war parlance.
Talking about cruise missiles and other ballistic missiles as started during 1975 under Integrated Guided Missile Development Program which was the brainchild of late prime minister Indra Gandhi whose endeavors have finally culminated fruitfully for Indians who have obtained prized catch of the day – BRAHMOS – a deadly supersonic cruise missile which can alter the battlefield scenario a la stinger in Afghanistan which made the graveyard of Russian choppers and forced Russians to flee.
Such is the deadly force of accurate, menacing Brahmos that Some have even warned that the US Navy's largest ships, the massive carriers, have now become floating death traps, and should be mothballed.
So far none has seen the massed cruise missile attack, but should it happen with multiple salvo, above is stark reality, even if not, such is the precision of Brahmos that its guidance system is able to distinguish an aircraft carrier from its escorts when locked on mode. Its land version has demonstrated its accuracy by pinpointing its target among the cluster of decoys and now follows Sea version which would be ultimately followed by Air version.
Please note the salient point here that the Brahmos missile is as deadly and precise as SS-N- 22 Sunburn or Moskit as called in Russia, another supersonic cruise missile whose technology has roots in Brahmos. In her testimony before the US House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, leading defense expert June Teuffel painted the following scenario about SS-N-22:
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"Nine feet above water, traveling at twice the speed of sound, with a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead, the radar-guided Sunburn missile can weave its way through smaller ships until it reaches its real target -- a US aircraft carrier. At the last instant, it would pop up from the ocean's surface, smash into the side of the carrier and set off a nuclear explosion six times as powerful as Hiroshima. The US Navy has nothing that can stop it."
This is the only missile that has hit the bulls eye during a test which was marked *X*, other missiles just hit the moving decoy or decommissioned tugs/vessles. So did our Brahmos, which hit the chosen target on its head, hidden among decoys.
Had Argentina possessed about fifty Exocet missiles (instead of five which downed two UK frigates/destroyers) during the Falkland war or Guerra De Las Malvinas, they could have converted all British ships to underwater museums. Such is the ferocity of missiles in today's conventional war asymmetry.
Now imagine punching a hole in one of the US aircraft carrier (which comprises of several sister escort ships) and rendering it inoperable or sinking it with couple of more strikes, that would change the course of any war.
US aircraft carriers or floating airports as they are known, which are the weapons of choice of USG that during the crisis any president is left asking where are our aircraft carriers, cause they don't need any permission from host countries as they perform in international waters and not littoral.
More, when the adversary knows the deadly power of its enemy, it thinks over and during the war crisis, changes the tough attitude, instead looks for the truce or middle ground.
Although India's blue water navy has long way to go, but if India is to retain its regional power status, it better keep up with changing technologies and weapons of choice to maintain the cutting edge because the influence and the leverage matters in today's power matrix with international ramifications.
But as I have said before and let me reiterate my pet phrase ' Migs and Mirages wont make any difference to India, Mir jafars of India will '. Thirty three years without using our combat birds and our tanks against our external threat, versus India’s fifth column who is silently stabbing Indians within our borders and goes unpunished, Its time we join hands or perish we will, Because Indians are at receiving end when it comes to internal security.
Time to think 3D.
Keshto Patel
That only be imagines because it can never happen in reality.
Its next to impossible even with Sunburn/Brahmos or which ever weapon inservice.
US has manythings to stop it.
E-2C,Radars,SM-2,Phalnx,ESSM,RAM etc.
And moreover not country has guts to attack US CVBGs.
But thats many years ago and moreover those RN Ships were pretty old and has no effective defence against Cruise Missiles.
Then do u think Indian Defence Ministry are fools to buy them.
War Doesn't Give Warning that it will come So u have to be prepared.
Any Indian would have slapped u if u had made this statment in 1971 or before 1971.
So do u think Kargil could have been won without Migs and Mirages.
In every war India fought till now IAF Played a Decisive role.
As for Internal security ots a Completely different issue.
Moskit was built by the Raduga Design Bureau, and entered service in 1984. Yakhont (which Brahmos is based on) was built by NPO Mashinostroyeniya, was first displayed in 1993 or 1994, and IOC was in 2001. IIRC, the Brahmos JV began in 1998, and Brahmos made it's first test flight in 2001.
Please note the salient point here that the Moskit did not use Brahmos technology. :coffee
India is major Russian partner for more than 50years and Russia has provided arms and intelegence during Indo-Pakistan war. Thats why India does not have need to invest bilions of dolar in something whitch is complicated and have no expirience at but can use. India is sufinancing GLONASS resurection as well as other major russian weapons project.Pathfinder-X said:
Paxter, don't waste your time. The bottomline is that these posters are against selling to any country that has a Muslim majority. Just read their previous posts.Paxter said:
These posters are not the GOI. However, if the GOI chooses not to sell to Malaysia then we will source our missiles from other countries.
oh well their lost then but i find it funny that the company selling this missle was being very intrested to sell it to msia.with the su-30mkm we baught. They even showed a brahmos missile under a malaysian su 30 mkm mock up... it was in a defence mag here not long ago lol.renjer said:
This is real news to me. My impression was that the Indian government was actively promoting the Brahmos missile to Malaysia. I have always thought that India/Malaysia defence relationship is especially close because our SU-30's and MiG-29's are going to be serviced in India.
India and Malaysia have traditionally enjoyed very good relationship and have close trade links. As I understand a big chunk of Indian Road project may be given to Malaysian companies (worth over $ 7-10 billion) and Indian govt. just signed a agreement for import of Plam oil from Malaysia/Indonesia. I recently read a news report that a visiting Malaysia minister toured HAL facilities and was looking at the possibility of signing a deal for maintainence and training of Malaysian Airforce Mig-29 and fpilots.
Having siad that, India will take in to consideration the sensitivity of Singapore before selling offensive platforms such as Brahmos. Recently the defence co-operation between India and Singapore is growing and Singapore has requested training facilities for its Army and Air-Force personnel in India. Indian govt. is considering it but again have to cater to sensitivity of Malaysian and Indonesian Govt.
. So its a very delicate balancing act..let's wait and watch before we jump in to conclusions about India averse to seeling Brahmos to any Muslim majority country.
Having siad that, India will take in to consideration the sensitivity of Singapore before selling offensive platforms such as Brahmos. Recently the defence co-operation between India and Singapore is growing and Singapore has requested training facilities for its Army and Air-Force personnel in India. Indian govt. is considering it but again have to cater to sensitivity of Malaysian and Indonesian Govt.
. So its a very delicate balancing act..let's wait and watch before we jump in to conclusions about India averse to seeling Brahmos to any Muslim majority country.
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contedicavour
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A quick question : how does Russia react when Brahmos is promoted to third countries ? Brahmos is after all an evolution of Yakhont/Onyx and when you think of how much the Russians need exports, I would be surprised that they didn't promote Yakhont...
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Both Russia and India are jointly promoting Brahmos for export. There was a press release some days back saying 50% of Brahmos produced is meant for export (after fulfilling the needs of both countries). Both India and Russia have a veto on to whom the Brahmos can be sold.contedicavour said:
In the case of India and Malaysia, I honestly don't see a conflict of interest. I appreciate and understand that India has to look at their relationship with other countries in the region. But whereas Malaysia has outstanding territorial disputes with China especially with regard to the Spratley's, I don't see the same problem with India. It is true that India is predominantly Hindu and Malaysia Muslim. There is of course the tension between India and Pakistan. But both Malaysia and India are in the Commonwealth. Both countries are democracies. Both countries are secular. Malaysia has a substantial Indian minority. The chance of military conflict between the two I suspect is low.
Not at all. And beside it being a strictly bilateral matter between India and Singapore I think Malaysia would be happy to see Singapore having an additional area to train in. Although I suspect it is more for the opportunity to train with the IAF rather than actual space contraints. An opportunity which I am sure the RMAF is also looking forward to.kams said:Don't take it personally, every one is entitled to their own openion.
somehow i would not trust malaysia as much as i would trust singapore,i feel malaysia is closer to pakistan than india ,since both malaysia and pakistan are predominently muslim countires.renjer said:
i would not be surprised to see brahmos missiles or their technology leaked to pakistan if sold to malaysia.
i meen no offence with my post and iam sorry if i seem to be paranoid ,but many times before malaysia have expressed open support of pakistan and its policies and i feel that they are sympathetic to pakistan.
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