Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

seaspear

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Feanor

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Update.

I haven't posted here for a while so I apologize that some of this is old news.

There are images showing that Russia is building a large naval base in Abkhazia. This is likely an attempt to move assets to a place where Ukraine can't hit them. The base was technically already there but the expansion is significant.


In response to the threat of unmanned boats Russia has mounted HMGs on a number of ships. It's better than nothing, but a suboptimal solution.


In October of last year a 22800 small missile ship, the Rzhev, is being prepared for hand over. It carries the Pantsyr SHORAD and UKSK cells, meaning it can bring some value even to a grouping of fairly large Pacific Fleet ships. It's supposed to be handed over by the end of 2024 but I don't have anything to suggest this actually happened.


The Yakutsk, the 6th 636.6 submarine for the Pacific Fleet has been launched. It's expected to enter service in 2025.


The fifth 22160 patrol ship degaussing and trials, before entering service with the Black Sea Fleet. It's currently


The 22800 ship Tucha was accepted for service in the Black Sea Fleet, after trials in the Caspian sea. It's the 6th 22800 small missile ship.


The first 22350 icebreaker patrol ship and the 4th 22160 patrol ship are undergoing trials in the Baltic. The 22350s are meant for the Arctic, the 22160s are all supposedly going to the Black Sea Fleet. The second 22350 was recently launched.


The 885M Arkhangel'sk was handed over to the VMF. The Perm', the 6th such ship, is preparing for launch. Nuclear submarine programs are proceeding at a fairly substantial pace.


The 3rd 23130 medium tanker for the VMF was launched.


Reportedly both reactors on the Nakhimov, the second Kirov-class in service but undergoing upgrades, are now active.


Satellite images show the project 23900 LHD construction on-going in Crimea. Sea trials have been pushed back to 2027. I suspect there's no hurry to finish them until the war ends.


Some sort of Russian unmanned boat undergoing testing. We have had information of Russia using boats of this kind against the bridge in Zatoka, Odessa region. But it's been mostly quiet. Also, it's not clear Russia will get much value out of these vessels in the current war. In a hypothetical confrontation with a western European force on the other hand...


There are reports that the Zvezda shipyard in the Russian Far East is negotiating joining the USC.

 

Sandhi Yudha

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Reports/Articles start to appear that the modernization and repairs of Project 1143,5 will be put on hold and plans to make the decision to cancel it totally.

https://en.topwar.ru/267848-resheni...-priostanovleny-na-neopredelennoe-vremja.html

Admiral Kuznetsov—The Last Soviet Carrier—Could Be Scrapped as Russia’s Naval Ambitions Falter

Burden of repair: Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser may be scrapped


The costs of the overhaul, repair and modernisation of the worn out Admiral Kuznetsov can be seen as a bottomless pit, with so many setbacks and bad luck. After entering service it can maybe only stay operational for some expensive ten years.

It is indeed maybe better to spend money on the Project 23900 LHD vessels which are under construction.

Btw, it seems that the fifth vessel of the Project 11711, Sergei Kabanov, is laid down.
В Калининграде заложили третий БДК модернизированного проекта 11711
 
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hauritz

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Reports/Articles start to appear that the modernization and repairs of Project 1143,5 will be put on hold and plans to make the decision to cancel it totally.

https://en.topwar.ru/267848-resheni...-priostanovleny-na-neopredelennoe-vremja.html

Admiral Kuznetsov—The Last Soviet Carrier—Could Be Scrapped as Russia’s Naval Ambitions Falter

Burden of repair: Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser may be scrapped


The costs of the overhaul, repair and modernisation of the worn out Admiral Kuznetsov can be seen as a bottomless pit, with so many setbacks and bad luck. After entering service it can maybe only stay operational for some expensive ten years.

It is indeed maybe better to spend money on the Project 23900 LHD vessels which are under construction.

Btw, it seems that the fifth vessel of the Project 11711, Sergei Kabanov, is laid down.
В Калининграде заложили третий БДК модернизированного проекта 11711
I would be happy to see Russia continue to waste as much money as possible on this piece of junk. Realistically they have more pressing issues then keeping this cold war relic operational.
 

Feanor

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Reports/Articles start to appear that the modernization and repairs of Project 1143,5 will be put on hold and plans to make the decision to cancel it totally.

https://en.topwar.ru/267848-resheni...-priostanovleny-na-neopredelennoe-vremja.html

Admiral Kuznetsov—The Last Soviet Carrier—Could Be Scrapped as Russia’s Naval Ambitions Falter

Burden of repair: Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser may be scrapped


The costs of the overhaul, repair and modernisation of the worn out Admiral Kuznetsov can be seen as a bottomless pit, with so many setbacks and bad luck. After entering service it can maybe only stay operational for some expensive ten years.

It is indeed maybe better to spend money on the Project 23900 LHD vessels which are under construction.

Btw, it seems that the fifth vessel of the Project 11711, Sergei Kabanov, is laid down.
В Калининграде заложили третий БДК модернизированного проекта 11711
Minor point, this is the 3rd 11711 "modified". They did a very silly thing of pretending it's the same ship type as the Ivan Gren but it's very clearly not. It's significantly larger (in fact the largest surface vessel the VMF is going to receive in 20+ years) and has a very different layout. The 11711 mod. was laid down with two vessels which was strange for a new ship class. And this is our first indication that the program seems to be proceeding with some level of success. Nonetheless many questions remain, including how they're going to make up the air group for them. The Ka-27 family is very very old, and at this point there aren't that many left. We may see a Ka-32 buy for the AVMF, or they may try to bank on OKR Minoga producing a new light helo for the AVMF. The second option I think is riskier by far.
 
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