Interesting photo.
Its highly likely that collins will need to be cut open as part of the LOTE. It looks like effectively being gutted.Is there any possibility the LOTE program for the Collins class undertaken by SAAB could involve cutting in half the submarine to add further compartments and actually lengthening the submarines?
There are articles SAAB has performed this on the Gotland class to add further capability,is this an opportunity to add further capabilities to this class
Will Saab expertise bolster the Collins upgrade program? - Australian Defence Magazine
As Defence looks to undertake a major upgrade program of its Collins-class submarines to bridge the gap with RAN’s future nuclear-powered submarine capability, one company already has a wealth of expe...www.australiandefence.com.au
Submarine Upgrade Will Extend Australian Navy’s Collins Class To 2048 - Naval News
Hints are emerging as to what the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) might be planning for their Collins Class submarines. They are often regarded as among the best long-range non-nuclear submarines in the World. Bit they require upgrades to keep them up there until 2048 when nuclear boats are expected...www.navalnews.com
Rear Admiral Hammond's words quoted on the official ADF website are not quite so specific:
Read the actual article underneath the photo and you'll see this : "A single MH-60 Romeo helicopter (photo digitally altered)"
I was intrigued to see an image with six Romeos taking off or on Adelaide's deck but the image caption did say 'digitally altered'!
Thanks DDG38. Either I am going crazy or the Defence site has been working overtime with corrections. Or perhaps 'Contact' have corrected it themselves.Read the actual article underneath the photo and you'll see this : "A single MH-60 Romeo helicopter (photo digitally altered)"
I can confirm no masts have been painted black on the Anzacs. Ballarat’s is only black from soot. The masts get cleaned once a year when they come in for a maintenance activity. Cheers.
There has also been talk of the Periscopes being replaced with Optronic Masts. Would also certainly help with the transfer to the SSNs if it can be done within the LOTE, is definitely going to be interesting to see what's in the LOTE.
I agree that there are no actual plans on lengthening the upgraded Collins class but could there be advantages in doing this to include capabilities certainly the Attack class is a twenty-metre longer boat so may potentially make it easier to include those advantages by the use of a small plug as mentioned for the Gotland class upgrade of two metres in the article below.
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About bloody time. I’ve made several posts here over the years advocating for it to stop the ships looking like Bombay bum boats only to be howled down by some saying sailors are too bust to maintain a clean ship. Hint, see how immaculate the JMSDF ships are.
Now I’m depressed!
Me too!
Thanks for the clarityRead the actual article underneath the photo and you'll see this : "A single MH-60 Romeo helicopter (photo digitally altered)"
Only taken 10years from when they launched HMAS Perth and realised the Mast got soot from exhuast below and might need to be black to stop dibbies and Greenies painting it regularly.
They start off at the top of the ski ramp to get a better run up
Does the LHD g full speed in reverse as well to give some wind over deck.............................oops, Helicopter not fixed wing!!!!They start off at the top of the ski ramp to get a better run up
But to be honest, can't say I have ever seen it done before and can't think of any practical reason to do so, happy to be corrected.Does the LHD g full speed in reverse as well to give some wind over deck.............................oops, Helicopter not fixed wing!!!!
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It's all the stokers fault. They shouldn't be making so much smoke. Maybe they should be up there painting the funnel, but then they don't know what a paint brush is for, the freshers would probably kill them, and getting a stoker out of their pit is damn nigh impossible except when "Up Spirits" and "Shore leave for off duty watches" is piped.
IIRC that was supposed to be a capability option for the design, but at least at this point it seems as though the benefits to including such a capability are outweighed (or since this is a naval thread, out-displacemented...) by the negatives. One has to remember that it is not just a question of whether or not there is sufficient mass to add a VLS and missile load out, there are also issues about finding sufficient appropriate real estate aboard the LHD to fit a VLS. Then there would be concerns about the impact of hot exhaust gases upon on important mission systems (think some sensors and especially comms dishes and antennae farms). Also, the H in LHD stands for helicopters, which means that helicopters would be taking off, landing, or operating in the vicinity on a regular basis. It might become quite difficult for the officers responsible for VLS weapon launches and the officers responsible for aircraft ops to coordinate activities at critical moments. It would do an LHD little good if it needed to fire a self-defence missile salvo at an inbound AShM that managed to penetrate the air defence umbrella and a blue force helicopter was in or near the flight path the outbound SAM would be taking.