Ananda
The Bunker Group
That such tall claim @Ahmad to say this still 'unoperational' radar is better and more advance than AN/APG 83, which already operational and already has proven record. Just remind you on the rules on this forum for not claiming anything based on reports that still can't prove indistinctly.
Are the report has all Technical comparison between this radar vs AN/APG 83 ?
If so, why don't you put the report so others in this forum including the mods can see if this claim has base or not.
There's reasons why there's rule in this forum not to put 'vs' comparison unless can be supported by strong technical data from reputable source.
You seems part of people in local forums that still think the problem on Su-35 procurement is CAATSA only. In fact the MinDef it self already put statement that reasons to do reassessment for Fighters procurement program is; cost benefits factor, benefits to local industry, logistical-integration, and Geopolitical. Thus CAATSA only just one of the factor.
What Russian has involved local industry on any of procurement from them ? LM already stated their willingness to work with DI on MRO including total upgrade of previous generation F-16 (which they already shown). Airbus already offered give DI license manufacturing even access to Avionics and Software development, is Russia already offer that ?
Airbus is long term partner to DI and their Tech Transfer commitment already proven. While For Russia "?" Still big question.
OPSSG already shown the problem with MKI where the Russian still did not want to provide source code for India to fully integrated MKI system to the systems that India build. This is India that already Russia most valuable Defense trading partner. Malaysian MKM already combine Western avionics with Russian system, and that continue provide integration problem for them. Are we still want to follow MKI and MKM example after that ?
It's your right to continue upholding your own believe. However in this forum if you want to put your own believe, then better with reasoning that can be supported with proven record.
Like I said in Indonesian AF thread, for me I'm still neutral with Su-35, as long as Russian give access to Indonesia to fully integrated them with other systems in Indonesian Armed Forces. MinDef and TNI already stated in media that capabilities to fully integration of all their assets on one network is their future priority. However considering what example with MKI and MKM, I highly doubt that Russia will ever give Indonesia to fully access their system with Indonesian mostly Western made other systems..
As for KFX, well Airbus for example already put their offer for access on their system if Indonesia choose Eurofighter. Does KAI also give DI access to their avionics and systems ?
So far DI involvement in this KFX program are only in the parts of Airframes. Which is understandable since DI only support 20%.
Thus if some other suppliers willing to give DI similar deal that SAAB give Embrear, well it could be more valuable than current KFX deal.
SAAB offer complete line manufacturing for Gripen E with Embrear, including Embrear access for system Integration. If this is also what Airbus offer (for example) with DI, then it could be more valuable than KFX participation. After all with only 20% participation and Junior Partner status, DI participation in KFX will not much different than license production as main IP and Marketing rights will be in the hand of KAI.
Again as I have said before, KFX is and always will be ROK project. This IFX will never be Indonesian project as DI only as part of production chain, just like Italy, Japan or other International Partners in JSF.
I'm not saying Indonesia will definitely be out of KFX (since this's highly political decision), but also don't say that KFX is the 'only' path for DI/Indonesia to get involvement or gain experience in modern Fighter manufacturing. There're several other path than KFX to give DI/Indonesia experience and involvement on that.
That's Eurofighter offer in 2015 can be an example. They offer not only build final assembly line in DI (as KFX offer), and also give DI further improvement capabilities with Indonesian build Eurofighter (thus essentially give DI access to the Eurofighter system).
It's still broad offering not in detail, but I believe it's part of MinDef assessment on potential path they will choose in the end.
If you say it's not give DI abilities to do R&D, well is current KFX did ? Current KFX program let DI engineers to include in development program under KAI. Thus all R&D is basically KAI program and DI only allowed to participate on some of them under their supervision and scope dictate by KAI.
Not much different then with DI participate with Eurofighter, but give permission by Airbus to study and developed the systems.
Again participation with KFX is not the only path for DI to gain knowledge and experience on Modern Fighter development.
If this administration decided to step out from KFX but they're then not doing any replacement project for DI on Tech Transfer, then you can justify saying Indonesian administration do not care on developing Military Aerospace tech.
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