Finished as in commissioned of finished as in construction done but then still got possible outfitting, testing, trials all of which can take years its self. As for using other ships as a comparison it isn't so straight forward. How well has the electrical's kept up? How good is the machinery? How much of the hull has corroded away over the years? HMAS Tobruk was just over 34 years in active service when retired and part's of her hull where down to 1mm in thickness. There is no set standard for ships and how long they will last. Usually you can guarantee 30 years or so, After they its any ones guess so really shouldnt be making the assumption that one ship serving X amount or time will mean all ships can.
That aside the Sao Paulo is a bad example as its service has been riddled with accidents, rebuilds and overhauls. Not exactly a poster child for old ships.
There is a lot of other ships that are older/same age of the Garibaldi and for sure won't be retired before 2022:
USS Nimitz*, entered service in 1975 (in 2022 will be 47 years)
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower*, entere service in 1977 (in 2022 will be 45 years)
USS Carl Vinson*, entered service in 1982 (in 2022 will be 40 years)
EX- Admiral Gorskov / INS Vikramaditya, entered ervice in 1982 (in 2022 will be 40 years)
There is also ships already retired (but that are in reserve) but that has served for much more than what will have done the Garibaldi in 2022. (the garibaldi has entered service in 1985 and in 2022 will be 37 years)
USS Kitty Hawk, entered service in 1961 and entered the reserve status in 2009, that means 48 years of service
EX HMS Centaur / INS Viraat, entered service in 1953 and entered the reserve status in 2009, that means 56 years of service
* these are Super Carriers and I don't want to compare the capabilities of these ships with the Garibaldi, but seeing that are Super Carriers, for sure they are way more expensive and hard to maintain compared to a small STOVL carrier, even if the new Ford class are entering the see trials i relly don't see any of these carriers retired bofore 2022
No. Just, no...
I will try and be nice about this, but the poster either ignored or is ignorant of a number of realities.
The first is that while Argentina would probably like to have the capabilities that the Giuseppe Garibaldi could provide the Argentine Navy, under the present circumstances the Argentine Navy cannot afford those capabilities. Further, even if the vessel and associated kit was gifted to Argentina, it still could not afford them. If the first two issues could be resolved, there are still the very real issues that such a sale/gift would require approvals from other nations, and given the history of Argentina the likelihood of such approvals are remote, at best. If by some miracle the first three issues could be resolved, the Argentine Navy still could not make effective use of such a large & high value asset, because the rest of the Argentine Navy is too decrepit to provide the escort and support capabilities needed. Argentine Navy vessels rarely go out to sea due to parts issues, kit being obsolete, munitions expired, and as a result personnel lack training and the opportunities to build up experience. Part of this is due to issues with funding, and part of this is due to restrictions on what can be exported to Argentina.
Obviously Argentina, in it's current state wouldn't be able to maintain a ship like the Garibaldi, and won't for a long time with this political mind set.
Argentinia would be able to afford it if a militaristic mind set is again at the lead of the political part of the country like back when the Falklands war was fought.
If a greater cut of the nation GDP is put in the renovation of the navy they would be able to have a good bunch of vessels capable of escorting a STOVL Carrier.
Isn't completelly true, the ship is completelly built in Italy with italian tech, so as long as no italian politician is against the selling and that at least half+1 EU nations is ok with this selling it would be done, considering that by 2022 UK will be out of the EU it's a bit easier.
NATO could have some problem with this selling, but after an hardware is put out of service it's not under NATO jurisdiction anymore.
"The first two Harriers got by the Italians entered service in 1991, so, if you buy the latest 6 entered in service it will be more than capable, more than that, the other 6 spare planes will be the 2 already grounded + the 4 oldest that will be considerable less expensive to use for spare parts...
Just for compareson, the Etandard and the F-4 already in service with the Argentinian are way way older."
This to me would be the sticking point! Harriers are English!!!! No way the UK would give the ok for the sale of the Harriers? Sure buy planes that has our I.P and then try and take over islands we both claim are ours haha would not happen in a month of sundays.
Unfortunately, the Harriers bought by the italians where made in the USA, with american tech, so they are the only ones that could stop this selling, UK could have stopped it if UK would still be a EU member in 2022
