Argentine navy future

[Sandhi Yudha]

Remarkable post.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655960033232924672

|"announces that the signing of the first submarine ...."|
- First submarine to be overhauled?
- First new second-hand submarine?
- First brandnew submarine?


Even the downsized CA-2000 coastal submarine variant is a bit too much for the limited defence budget of Argentina if they choose for the Scorpène design. But i don't know how affordable the Scorpène 1000 variant is.

There is nothing about this on the Twitterpages of DCNS/NG or Howaldswerke-Deutsche Werft/TKMS, so we will see what's true about this story.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Argentine government has finalized negotiations to buy four surplus P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft from the Royal Norwegian Air Force.

The agreement was reached on 31 August in Buenos Aires during a meeting between Defence Minister Jorge Taiana and representatives of the Norwegian Defence Materiel Agency.

With the acquisition of these 4 P-3Cs, the surviving S-2T Trackers can be at last retired.

If im not wrong Argentina also has a small amount of P-3Bs, but these are maybe grounded and not operationable.

Argentina buys P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft from Norway

Three are fitted for maritime surveillance, anti-submarine and anti-surface missions, and one is designed for search and rescue operations.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Argentina Defence Ministry has signed a letter of intention for the procurement of eight Agusta-Westland AW109M lightweight helicopters. The AW109Ms are planned to be used by the Argentine Navy in a seagoing role aboard the French-built Gowind/Bouchard-class offshore patrol vessels, acquired between 2019 and 2022.

Argentina agrees to buy Leonardo AW109M helicopters

The AW109Ms would be used by the Argentine Navy in a seagoing role aboard French-built Bouchard-class offshore patrol vessels.

www.defensenews.com

I expect that all the helicopters will be built in Italy, without involvement of Westland.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Argentina doesn't even have enough budget to overhaul/modernize its current fleet. So ordering 3 Scorpènes with a value of € 2 billion is highly unlikely, or maybe even totally impossible.

It is to be expected that the four l'Adroit patrolboats are the only modern vessels in thr fleet the coming years.

Financing becomes a hurdle in Argentina’s quest for new submarines

A letter of intent for a purchase from Naval Group is in the works, but the country's bad credit history is holding up a financing arrangement.

www.defensenews.com

 

[koxinga]

It does indicate where their priorities are and their view is subs offer them a strategic capability that is critical. It is a reasonable view, especially since they were sub operators for decades and that capability and institutional knowledge, if lost will take a long time to reacquire.

Still, three brand new subs seems is an unrealistic target. The used options that they had been linked with seems more reasonable as part of their short term plan (since new subs, if they could afford it, would take at years to build) but they are unlikely to be able to get international financing on such old hardware.