Yes, Fassmer would be my choice as well.Found this nice video of AustalFassmer's proposed design. The more i see of it the more i like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkzdRUdGkc
ESSM can be quad-packed in the larger Mk 41 VLS, but only twin-packed in the smaller Mk 48 Mod 3 or Mk 56 VLS.I always thought the ESSM were quad packed, which would give the six VLS cells 24 missiles.
I hope that hangar can accomodate more than just a helicopter drone. Do you know if it can accomodate a MRH 90 or Romeo?Found this nice video of AustalFassmer's proposed design. The more i see of it the more i like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkzdRUdGkc
Fassmer spec sheet showsI hope that hangar can accomodate more than just a helicopter drone. Do you know if it can accomodate a MRH 90 or Romeo?
I believe they are designed around MH-60 or at least there is a completed ship based around that capability.Fassmer spec sheet shows
Helicopter
1 x 10t MTOW
MB
It will carry larger copters ... but I think that video was indicative of what was asked for. Clearly the requirement is only for drone sized copters.I hope that hangar can accomodate more than just a helicopter drone. Do you know if it can accomodate a MRH 90 or Romeo?
Would be your choice V what ?Yes, Fassmer would be my choice as well.
The hangar is a big plus and that stern folding ramp is pretty tricky.
Would be a good choice for the RAN
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No one knows? Unless Fassmer and Lurssen have been lying to the public and the government we pretty much exactly what they are offering.Would be your choice V what ?
Lots of assumptions going off yet again, it has been pointed out many times, no one know what any of the contenders have in their offers, and one youtube video does not make a contender better than the others.
This forum is meant to be about actual fact, there is so much conjecture going on at the moment that we are in fairy land.
Lets get some reality into the discussions
Hi mate, I was just wondering what were the other alternatives to the Attack & Freo classes? I am just interested in what else was on offer around those times.Whichever vessel,is chosen let's hope the capability planners have a clear view on the tasks required over the lives of the ships.
We have learned from the total inadequacies of the Attack, the disasterous machinery choices of the Fremantles and the lack of durability of the Armidales.
In all these cases there were alternatives available which with hindsight would have been vastly superior choices, too bad about political interference.
I only hope Lurrsen and Damen have squirrelled a hanger into their offerings as this will be a huge advantage as UAV technology evolves rapidly during the next two decades.
These future ships will be asked to do more, to go further and to fight harder if the lessons of history are learned and therefore growth margin is the biggest single factor which should decide the winner. Imho naturally.
The alternatives are not only about a different hull although in the Armidale class the Tenix hull, as built for the Philippines Coast Guard was vastly superior.Hi mate, I was just wondering what were the other alternatives to the Attack & Freo classes? I am just interested in what else was on offer around those times.
Cheers, Sam
Exactly ! So until we know.......No one knows?
I am not sure how the selection process works by I imagine that it will come down to which competitor best matches the requirements set out in the RFT. Hangers are all well and good but it doesn't sound like they are a requirement.Exactly ! So until we know.......
You have a one in three chance of getting it right, so no doubt some idiot will come back with the "I told you so ! I was right, I know what I am talking about" crap, we don't need it.
Its fine to talk about what we know, discuss needs and capabilities, requirements, but this forum is turning into a what if, I like, fairly land ! bit over the crap talk really. Lets keep it real
It's a nothing interview.Two stories on UK Minister Baldwin's visit to Aust on the ABC (CH24).
The first was her visit to the Thales facility in Ryde re sonar. It came across as a bit of a sop to Aust to select the type-26 and we'll consider buying this for our frigates.
The second was the interview yesterday on the type-26. The lack of maturity of the design is an issue if her comment early in the interview about the UK being five years ahead of Aust thereby "de risking" the design is anything to go by. I viewed only a few seconds of it on the way out.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/wat...-case-for-type-26-anti-sub-warship/vi-BBEMFNB
Agree.It's a nothing interview.
We may be a few years behind the UK but only if we choose the T26. If we choose an F100 derivative we are already well ahead, if we choose a FREMM we are also way ahead of the Brits.
There seems to be a persistent attitude by her ilk that says, really Oz has run off the rails over the last decades or so and really we should see sense and come back under mother Englands umbrella and buy superior British ships. Really?
The T26 is certainly in the running but it's competitors are better in some respects, worse in others And all are still alive.