Boagrius
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Not possible. It's supposed to be a sitting duck from the rear quarter!
2 Thanks for the info 
F-35 Program - General Discussion
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2 Thanks for the info The F-35's days are numbered, a petition has been started.
"The world demands it! Cancel the F-35"
nfloorl:
I thought I would share this blog post here, it is pure unintended comedy.
What Keeps the F-35 Alive
"The world demands it! Cancel the F-35"
nfloorl:I thought I would share this blog post here, it is pure unintended comedy.
What Keeps the F-35 Alive
The first of the F35A's with the faulty insulation in the fuel tanks have been repaired and returned to flying duties. The repairs were not as complicated as first thought and did not require removal of the wings with the repairs being able to be done with the wings in situ.
The Dept of Defense has grown tired of the lack of progress in LRIP 9 contract negotiations with Lockheed and unilaterally issued a US$6.1 billion contract for 57 F35 aircraft. The only sticking point was price and Lockheed are not amused. They haven't decided whether to accept the contract or go to court.
F-35: DoD Forces Lockheed To Accept Its Price For LRIP 9
F-35: DoD Forces Lockheed To Accept Its Price For LRIP 9
Oh dear.
Now that ladies(?) and gentlemen, is one of the clearest demonstrations of leftwing stupidity I have ever seen and illustrates the differences between that and the fringe right, conspiracy theory crap we usually see. Both are as insane and lacking in reason as each other and but for opposite views on the environment vs the economy they could have been written by the same person.
Now that ladies(?) and gentlemen, is one of the clearest demonstrations of leftwing stupidity I have ever seen and illustrates the differences between that and the fringe right, conspiracy theory crap we usually see. Both are as insane and lacking in reason as each other and but for opposite views on the environment vs the economy they could have been written by the same person.
Ummm context please V. Just want to know whether to choke on my navy rum or have a double tot.
Sorry, the anti F-35 petition.
Cool thought so. When I looked at it I just about choked on my navy rum then I had a double tot
As my dear old dad used to say they would put a dog off its tucker 
force acquisition and planning done via social media and IMG's - yep, can't see any problems there.....
where's me meds.....
Vulcan
Member
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...returns-to-flight-following-faulty-in-431134/
3 USAF and 1 Norwegian F-35s are flying again, it's meant to knock deliveries off schedule until the end of next year.
Didn't realize it was only an A variant issue.
3 USAF and 1 Norwegian F-35s are flying again, it's meant to knock deliveries off schedule until the end of next year.
Didn't realize it was only an A variant issue.
John Newman
The Bunker Group
Yes I'm sure the ABC will present a well researched, quality, non-biased and balanced report (yeah right, cough, choke!!!).
And I'm sure they will interview a whole range of experts to give their educated and informed opinions too (especially the likes of the Goon squad from APA, again, cough, choke!!).
If I forget, remind me to sleep in that morning, ok? Don't want to ruin my whole day next Sunday.
The UK, Netherlands and Australia have been selected as the first three global hubs for F35 component repairs. More details at the link.
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UK, Australia Score Big F-35 Repair Work Agreements
By: Valerie Insinna, November 7, 2016 (Photo Credit: Alaysia Berry, Air Force)
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has chosen its first F-35 global repair hubs, and the United Kingdom, Netherlands and Australia are the big winners.
The F-35 joint program office on Monday announced the countries that will be responsible for sustaining 65 out of 774 repairable components on the F-35. The United Kingdom picked up the lion’s share of the initial work, and will provide support for 48 of those components from 2021 to 2025.
“This establishes Britain as a hub for all European F35s and is hugely positive news for our high-tech and innovative defense industry,” UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said in a news release. “It is an endorsement of the skills and capabilities the UK offers, will help create hundreds of high-end jobs, safeguard thousands more and be a substantial boost to UK exports.”
The UK, Netherlands and Australia will be charged with the global sustainment of these 65 components from 2021 to 2025.
During this early period, the Netherlands will conduct maintenance, repair, overhaul and upgrade (MRO&U) services for 14 components, while Australia will oversee three components. The countries will be responsible for an array of parts that span 18 categories, with the Netherlands focusing on landing gear and Australia on life support systems, among other components, said F-35 JPO spokesman Joe DellaVedova.
Repair of this equipment will be conducted on a regional basis starting in 2025, with work split between Europe and the Pacific. In Europe, the UK will continue to be responsible for most of these components — 51 parts in total — while the Netherlands retains its assignment for 14 components.
During that same period, Australia will step up its share of the work to 64 of the first 65 components for the Pacific region. South Korea was tasked with the repair of the one remaining capability.
In an effort to drive down maintenance costs and increase the readiness of the fighter jet worldwide, the F-35 program plans to compete sustainment contracts across the F-35 international partners and foreign customers across three regions: North America, Europe and the Pacific. This sustainment strategy also gives countries that plan to buy the F-35 another way to increase their industrial participation in the program.
Monday’s announcement is a coup for the United Kingdom, which has campaigned vigorously for the avionics work. The government expects industry to rake in hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of the agreement, and the companies will complete work for electronic and electrical components, fuel, mechanical and hydraulic systems and ejection seats.
The UK hub will involve a partnership between the Defence Electronics and Components Agency, BAE Systems and Northrop Grumman, with work located at DECA headquarters at the Ministry of Defence facility in Sealand, Wales, according to the UK government.
In the wake of the announcement, BAE and Northrop issued press releases welcoming their share in the sustainment work.
“The selection of the UK to undertake this work is a notable achievement and recognizes the military aircraft support skills and capabilities that we have here in the UK,” said Andrew Tyler, chief executive of Northrop Grumman Europe.
BAE Systems will play a “leading role” for sustainment in both the UK and Australia, the company stated.
“Within BAE Systems we have a strong track record of working alongside our national and international customers, and industry partners, in delivering innovative and cost effective support solutions and we look forward to bringing that experience to F-35 component MRO&U,” said Ian King, the company’s chief executive.
The F-35 program office issued a request for information to F-35 partners and customers in March for the first 65 components, DellaVedova said. After receiving input from interested countries, a JPO evaluation team evaluated the technical ability, capability growth plans and overall value inherent in each nation’s industrial base.
The JPO plans to use a similar process to assign the remaining 709 components over the next two to three years, and it will also compete opportunities to sustain support equipment, full mission simulators, the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS), and maintenance training devices as the F-35’s global footprint grows.
The office has already started its next wave of assessments. In October it released RFIs for F-35 warehousing and non-air-vehicle repairs, and will choose which countries will be responsible for those capabilities next year.
UK, Australia Score Big F-35 Repair Work Agreements
By: Valerie Insinna, November 7, 2016 (Photo Credit: Alaysia Berry, Air Force)
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has chosen its first F-35 global repair hubs, and the United Kingdom, Netherlands and Australia are the big winners.
The F-35 joint program office on Monday announced the countries that will be responsible for sustaining 65 out of 774 repairable components on the F-35. The United Kingdom picked up the lion’s share of the initial work, and will provide support for 48 of those components from 2021 to 2025.
“This establishes Britain as a hub for all European F35s and is hugely positive news for our high-tech and innovative defense industry,” UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said in a news release. “It is an endorsement of the skills and capabilities the UK offers, will help create hundreds of high-end jobs, safeguard thousands more and be a substantial boost to UK exports.”
The UK, Netherlands and Australia will be charged with the global sustainment of these 65 components from 2021 to 2025.
During this early period, the Netherlands will conduct maintenance, repair, overhaul and upgrade (MRO&U) services for 14 components, while Australia will oversee three components. The countries will be responsible for an array of parts that span 18 categories, with the Netherlands focusing on landing gear and Australia on life support systems, among other components, said F-35 JPO spokesman Joe DellaVedova.
Repair of this equipment will be conducted on a regional basis starting in 2025, with work split between Europe and the Pacific. In Europe, the UK will continue to be responsible for most of these components — 51 parts in total — while the Netherlands retains its assignment for 14 components.
During that same period, Australia will step up its share of the work to 64 of the first 65 components for the Pacific region. South Korea was tasked with the repair of the one remaining capability.
In an effort to drive down maintenance costs and increase the readiness of the fighter jet worldwide, the F-35 program plans to compete sustainment contracts across the F-35 international partners and foreign customers across three regions: North America, Europe and the Pacific. This sustainment strategy also gives countries that plan to buy the F-35 another way to increase their industrial participation in the program.
Monday’s announcement is a coup for the United Kingdom, which has campaigned vigorously for the avionics work. The government expects industry to rake in hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of the agreement, and the companies will complete work for electronic and electrical components, fuel, mechanical and hydraulic systems and ejection seats.
The UK hub will involve a partnership between the Defence Electronics and Components Agency, BAE Systems and Northrop Grumman, with work located at DECA headquarters at the Ministry of Defence facility in Sealand, Wales, according to the UK government.
In the wake of the announcement, BAE and Northrop issued press releases welcoming their share in the sustainment work.
“The selection of the UK to undertake this work is a notable achievement and recognizes the military aircraft support skills and capabilities that we have here in the UK,” said Andrew Tyler, chief executive of Northrop Grumman Europe.
BAE Systems will play a “leading role” for sustainment in both the UK and Australia, the company stated.
“Within BAE Systems we have a strong track record of working alongside our national and international customers, and industry partners, in delivering innovative and cost effective support solutions and we look forward to bringing that experience to F-35 component MRO&U,” said Ian King, the company’s chief executive.
The F-35 program office issued a request for information to F-35 partners and customers in March for the first 65 components, DellaVedova said. After receiving input from interested countries, a JPO evaluation team evaluated the technical ability, capability growth plans and overall value inherent in each nation’s industrial base.
The JPO plans to use a similar process to assign the remaining 709 components over the next two to three years, and it will also compete opportunities to sustain support equipment, full mission simulators, the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS), and maintenance training devices as the F-35’s global footprint grows.
The office has already started its next wave of assessments. In October it released RFIs for F-35 warehousing and non-air-vehicle repairs, and will choose which countries will be responsible for those capabilities next year.
t68
Well-Known Member
Bit confused here, where going to be a repair hub but can only service three components. Does that mean the rest have to be shipped overseas for all other repairs other than the three components or is this just the start?
John Newman
The Bunker Group
I think the article needs a re-read a couple of times, how it read to me is:
First up for the period 2021-25, of the 774 repairable items contracts have been award for 65 (of the 774), UK 48, Netherlands 14 and Australia three (3).
But then from 2025, Australia will be responsible for 64 (of the 65) components for the Pacific region, and no doubt beyond those dates more countries will be awarded repair work on a greater number of the 774 repairable components.
But regardless of how many components each country ends up with to repair, I read it as being that that particular country is the sole source for repairs to those items, I don't see a problem with that.
X country is therefore responsible for 100% of repairs to X component.
Not that it's been stated, but one would assume there is a 'pool' of parts, if a particular country needs a 'new' part, it comes out of the pool (obviously to keep their respective airframes flying!!).
The failed 'repairable' part then goes to X country, repaired and then goes back into the overall pool.
If on the other hand you had to 'wait' for your particular part to be repaired and then redelivered, that would be a bit of a problem.
Again I'm just making an assumption, but I couldn't imagine having to wait for an individual part to be repaired and returned would work very well, surely there would be a global 'pool' of parts that all member nations can draw on, and equally repaired parts end up back in the pool.
Is that a reasonable assumption?
I've had to read it a couple of times as well before I think I got the gist of it, although it left me scratching my noggin a bit, and I came up with a similar line to you. This is the Australian Aviation story:
I think that the Australian Aviation story is a bit clearer. It's composed better and more explanatory. I get the impression that the Defense News article was written by just choosing words at random or the author is Irish and still celebrating the Irish rugby first ever test win over the All Blacks during the weekend in Chicago after 111 years. The partying in the Emerald Isle will go on for weeks. :drunk1
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John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Another reminder from a pilot as to what's important for future aviation combat.
Information, Not Speed, is Future of Fighter Aircraft: Pilot - Defensetech
Information, Not Speed, is Future of Fighter Aircraft: Pilot - Defensetech