Where did they report Aucklands entire fleet of fire engines was needed, that's 100 or so vehicles, I'm sure the crash tender on the base was more than adequate for the job.
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Reported on the original online version of the incident. Corrected and updated later. The race to report first by the MSM these days see much hyperbole and facts go unchecked.
Not likely as they have already been replace twice in the past. From memory the outer wings have been reworked or replaced as well. A basic sum would indicate that the center wing's seem to last about 10 to 15000 hours. After the life extension program a good deal of the original aircraft is no longer original.From the RNZAF Facebook page
I think there was some discussion a while back querying how many hours the highest time C-130 had; Here is the most recent answer. With the centre wing boxes replaced, they could probably last another 30,000.
Ok so this isn't a RNZAF update as such, but it seemed like a good place to put it given given past discussion about the potential for the P-750XL in military and RNZAF service.
At the recent North Korean airshow (their first ever) - a P-750XL was seen participating. Given the sanctions applied to North Korea, I suspect some questions about who/where it came from will soon be forthcoming.
Photo Gallery: North Korea’s Air Force Uncovered | Aviation Week
At the recent North Korean airshow (their first ever) - a P-750XL was seen participating. Given the sanctions applied to North Korea, I suspect some questions about who/where it came from will soon be forthcoming.
Photo Gallery: North Korea’s Air Force Uncovered | Aviation Week
I believe that some have been exported to China. I think that would be the place to start looking.
NZ firm sells skydive planes to China
The deal with Pacific Aerospace and a Chinese government owned company included Aircraft for the Chinese market originally being produced in New Zealand with the manufacturing then shifting to China. According to the NZ Herald the Chinese production line was intended to be up and running late 2016. So while it is possible that the North Korean Aircraft was produced in China it was most likely manufactured in New Zealand.
Are their likely to be any repercussions from this?
This is a video of the P-750XL at the airshow
I think that there will be, but for whom remains to be seen. There will definitely be an investigation here.
Not RNZAF, but sounds familiar where an air force is struggling to convince its sister services and the general public of its relevance. That is something that the RNZAF failed to do during the 1990s up to the axing of the ACF.
Italian air force struggles to prove air power relevance
Italian air force struggles to prove air power relevance
kiwipatriot69
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Could this plane see a use in our Airforce then, seeing some ISR capability and frieght, small take off ,ect was mentioned, maybe as additional to P3 replacement, but internally, within NZ?
According to this mornings NZ Herald this particular aircraft was sold several months ago to a Chinese Company who's name translate as "Free Sky". PAC, the manufacturer, are investigating further.
More C-130J orders by A400 operators.
Reported reason ".... the C-130Js will be used for ‘special operations support’ and that they will operate from airstrips ‘unavailable’ to the Airbus A400M Atlas.".
Germany to buy C-130Js | Combat Aircraft
Reported reason ".... the C-130Js will be used for ‘special operations support’ and that they will operate from airstrips ‘unavailable’ to the Airbus A400M Atlas.".
Germany to buy C-130Js | Combat Aircraft
t68
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Not a good look for Airbus, but what I find strange why doesn't the C27J get a lookin for special ops work?
Bit more nimble than a C130J and it was suppose to have a MC27-J variant, I havnt heard of anyone taking the option tho.
MC-27J Multimission Aircraft - Airforce Technology
Range, payload, capability and orphan operator issues I suspect would be the main issues...
The C-130J / KC-130J / MC-130J offer known costs, known capability and assured development paths...
Development risk is what they are already taking on with A400M. Not sure there would be much of an appetite for more...
Just wondering which of the big players in the Air Mobility & Air Surveillance competitions might make an actual physical appearance in NZ in the near future? February 2017 would be an excellent opportunity. On the 25-26 Feb the RNZAF are holding an 80th anniversary airshow at Ohakea. Hopefully the traffic management is better than that for the 75th. The weekend before (17-19 Feb) is the Wings over Wairarapa airshow at Masterton. While Hood Aerodrome is probably too small for the larger aircraft under consideration to actually land at, it is only a short flight from Ohakea to make an overflight / flying display. So, a prime opportunity to fit in two public displays (each is 2-days, so 4 flights total), spend the week at Ohakea (and presumably Whenuapai & Wellington) with the RNZAF / MOD / NZ Govt, all in the space of ten days.
Would love to see Airbus demonstrate an A400M (Malaysian or French?) and a C295 (if the Portuguese are not available again - it's a very long way for them to come - then one of the South East Asian models perhaps - Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia). Similarly it would be a good time for the Japanese to show their wares (P-1, C-2, KC-767). Aussies could stump up with a C-130J & a C-27J, maybe a KC-30? Probably too early for an Aussie P-8. Might get the US to show up with one though (maybe also a C-17 if it's still an option).
P.S. In Australia, the Avalon airshow in Geelong occurs the weekend (3-5 March) following the Ohakea show, with the accompanying aerospace & defence expo running from 28 Feb to 5 March. That could add a little more synergy as well. Not sure if the Aussies are in the market anymore for the kind of equipment the RNZAF wants, but Avalon is probably the largest expo in Australasia, so the major players are likely to be present anyway.
Would love to see Airbus demonstrate an A400M (Malaysian or French?) and a C295 (if the Portuguese are not available again - it's a very long way for them to come - then one of the South East Asian models perhaps - Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia). Similarly it would be a good time for the Japanese to show their wares (P-1, C-2, KC-767). Aussies could stump up with a C-130J & a C-27J, maybe a KC-30? Probably too early for an Aussie P-8. Might get the US to show up with one though (maybe also a C-17 if it's still an option).
P.S. In Australia, the Avalon airshow in Geelong occurs the weekend (3-5 March) following the Ohakea show, with the accompanying aerospace & defence expo running from 28 Feb to 5 March. That could add a little more synergy as well. Not sure if the Aussies are in the market anymore for the kind of equipment the RNZAF wants, but Avalon is probably the largest expo in Australasia, so the major players are likely to be present anyway.
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t68
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Interesting Germany is now jumping on the C130J band wagon in co-junction with the French, wonder if this has any bearing on the Kiwi Air Mobilty Program
Germany and France create joint tactical air transport squadron | IHS Jane's 360
That's the 2nd primary user jumping ship for operational reasons, but given the strategic lift needs of NZ still think A400M is the better option for them
Germany and France create joint tactical air transport squadron | IHS Jane's 360
That's the 2nd primary user jumping ship for operational reasons, but given the strategic lift needs of NZ still think A400M is the better option for them
There is a military fly past as part of the navy's 75th celebrations on the 19th of November in Auckland that is supposed to include international visitors. That may also see the outside chance of some participation from some elements of the above.
40 deg south
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Chinese firm to acquire New Zealand's Airwork | IHS Jane's 360
I'm not sure of how much maintenance work Airwork does for NZ government. If it is significant, could that have an impact on the proposed sale?
I'm not sure of how much maintenance work Airwork does for NZ government. If it is significant, could that have an impact on the proposed sale?
40 deg south
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Chis73
Interesting thought. It would certainly be a way of showing some commitment to working with NZ, and giving decision-makers a chance to see prospective equipment in the flesh.