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Kiwigov

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Also, new variants of the C295 are under development. I'm impressed with the effort Airbus has put into progressive development of the base platform, and think they have done more in this regard than Alenia has for the C27J.

Airbus DS discloses new variants, customers for C295 aircraft - IHS Jane's 360
Yes, also interesting that the latest Air Force News has a bit of a feature on the Portugese C295 that flew in back in February. Notable focus on the fact that this was fitted with a multi-mission suite, allowinga switch between maritime patrol, transport and VIP functions. From the looks of the pic, it was fitted with a FLIR turret and radar bulge (presumably the same as the Irish Air Corps' C295s).
Reason I find this inclusion of an externally-generated article in AFN interesting, is that a similar article extolling the virtues of the T-6C was published in Pacific Wings after the 2012 airshow,,,;)
 

KiwiRob

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What's the basis for your assertion that the SH2G(I)s will only last 10 years? Do you have some technical knowledge relating to them?
The frames are already 20-30 years old, I know they have been zero timed but 30 year old frames are 30 year old frames and surely won't have the life expectancy of new build frames.
 

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The frames are already 20-30 years old, I know they have been zero timed but 30 year old frames are 30 year old frames and surely won't have the life expectancy of new build frames.
IIRC the airframes have a USN certifiied lifespan of 10000 hours. Componentry ranges from 2500 through to 12000 hours. The blades and hubs will wear out far quicker than the airframe. However that is expected regardless of any rotary option we would have chosen, Nevertheless COTS spares are available. They are not or more correctly as once bespoke as many think.

Very comfortable margins considering the hours we will do with the fleet of 8+2 over the next 15 years or so that we will require them for. Ugly though. Will never win a beauty contest.
 

40 deg south

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First Royal New Zealand Air Force Beechcraft T-6C takes flight | Australian Aviation

Australian Aviation has a nice shot of the first Beechcraft in Kiwi colours airborne in Kansas.

The speed with which this project is being delivered is impressive, once a decision was finally made. I think it shows the benefits of buying a proven off-the-shelf product from a reputable manufacturer, rather than some half-arsed cheapskate solution.

Hopefully this point will be noted in Wellington, but I'm not holding my breath!
 

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ANAO releases damning report into ADF MRH90 program | Australian Aviation

Somewhat less positive news from the same source on Australia's experience with the NH90. The title pretty much says it all. If the report is to be believed, pretty much the whole Aussie defence establishment wanted the Blackhawk. The government decided differently, probably because of the scope to assemble the NH90's in Australia. Once that decision was made, there appears to have been some sloppy project management and contracts from the acquisition authorities.

NH Industries plans 'simplified' NH90 for future customers - 6/25/2014 - Flight Global
Also on the NH90, a brief 'global' update on the NH90. Looks as if steps are finally being taken to streamline specs and in-service support.
 

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Both the tiger and nh90 programs have been horrendous.

Should of gone off the shelf options that have been developed with a road map in place.

Apaches and new build Knighthawks.
Additional Chinooks in the mix also may have been an option.

MH 60S would of been perfect as it was developed for the US navy.
MH 60R purchase also would of been cost savings operating the one type helo.
Both the army and navy have a wealth of knowledge on the seahawk and blackhawk families.



 

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Both the tiger and nh90 programs have been horrendous.

Should of gone off the shelf options that have been developed with a road map in place.

Apaches and new build Knighthawks.
Additional Chinooks in the mix also may have been an option.

MH 60S would of been perfect as it was developed for the US navy.
MH 60R purchase also would of been cost savings operating the one type helo.
Both the army and navy have a wealth of knowledge on the seahawk and blackhawk families.



We have been down the road with this argument before. The Blackhawk was looked at and was found not to meet NZDF requirements. Simple as. The NH90 did and won the contract. The only problem that NZDF has with the NH90 IMHO is that they do not have enough of them. They should have a minimum of 10 flying airframes. The Romeo was not available when the original Seasprite contract was given and when the maintenance issues arose with the SH2G(NZ) the Romeo is to expensive and to large to safely operate off the OPV flight decks. The SH2G(I) deal was to good to turn down after due diligence especially on the engineering, avionics and safe flight operation side of things. NZDF would not operate Chinooks or Seaknights because there is no capability sets within NZDF requiring such expensive to purchase and operate aircraft.
 

Oberon

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We have been down the road with this argument before. The Blackhawk was looked at and was found not to meet NZDF requirements. Simple as. The NH90 did and won the contract. The only problem that NZDF has with the NH90 IMHO is that they do not have enough of them. They should have a minimum of 10 flying airframes. The Romeo was not available when the original Seasprite contract was given and when the maintenance issues arose with the SH2G(NZ) the Romeo is to expensive and to large to safely operate off the OPV flight decks. The SH2G(I) deal was to good to turn down after due diligence especially on the engineering, avionics and safe flight operation side of things. NZDF would not operate Chinooks or Seaknights because there is no capability sets within NZDF requiring such expensive to purchase and operate aircraft.
I think he was referring to the ADF which is off-topic in the NZ airforce and aviation forum in any case.
 

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I also beleive that RNZAF need additional NH90, s. Not sure how many 2 to 4 more sounds about right to me, depending on how large a JATF NZ plans on deploying in the future, I am lead to believe they want a Bn group?

On another note, I work with 2 ex Aust Avn techs who have experience with both Apache and Tiger.
they both reckon the tiger is a very good pece of gear, and yes they acknowldge there has been problems, there always is with new gear (Collins, F88 and soon the F35) but both rate the tiger very highly. Its an armed recon chopper, not a tank hunter killer. Having said that. It has a greater range than apache, the apache rarley carries a full load of 30mm, and the tiger has a better gun and sight system apparently. All in all from what im told, Avn pretty happy with the tiger.
 

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I also beleive that RNZAF need additional NH90, s. Not sure how many 2 to 4 more sounds about right to me, depending on how large a JATF NZ plans on deploying in the future, I am lead to believe they want a Bn group?

On another note, I work with 2 ex Aust Avn techs who have experience with both Apache and Tiger.
they both reckon the tiger is a very good pece of gear, and yes they acknowldge there has been problems, there always is with new gear (Collins, F88 and soon the F35) but both rate the tiger very highly. Its an armed recon chopper, not a tank hunter killer. Having said that. It has a greater range than apache, the apache rarley carries a full load of 30mm, and the tiger has a better gun and sight system apparently. All in all from what im told, Avn pretty happy with the tiger.
Yes the Tiger & NH90 have got some bad press but have heard good things about the 90. Its new technology & like you say new gear get teething problems. Reckon if you didn't then i would be getting very concerned.
 

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NH90 Update Part 1

Got this from another place. Originally came from Janes end of May 2014. I've only edited it to change the formatting of the type of the country names to bold type. I've also had to split it because article is to long for a single post (max length 20k characters).
Part 1 of 2

After a troubled gestation, operators around the world are now building experience flying the NH90 helicopter in a number of roles and configurations. Pieter Bastiaans, Ian Bostock, Gareth Jennings, and Luca Peruzzi report on some of the prominent users

NHIndustries' NH90 has its roots in NATO studies from the early 1980s and was avowedly European in its focus. There are now 13 customers for the type - Portugal and Saudi Arabia dropped out in 2012 and 2007 respectively - most of which are in Europe, but the user club also boasts members in Australia, New Zealand, and Oman.

Even with such a relatively tight geographic focus and having been developed to what were initially conceived of as common aims, the NH90 has been developed in a wide range of configurations to suit specific customer requirements. These range from relatively minor differences such as seat layouts to more complex mission suites, sensor packages and weapon suites.
The development and production path hit various speed bumps and although the first NH90 flew in December 1995, it was another 11 years before the first helicopters were actually delivered to the German Army launch customer, two years later than envisioned.

Concerns emerged in 2010 including reports that the ramp and floor were not rated for fully equipped troops, as well as issues with the door guns, which were impeded by troops in the aircraft. Several other operators have subsequently reported similar issues particularly citing insufficient clearance to use the suppressive weapons.
However, fixes and work arounds have now been put in place for many of these issues and aircrews are reporting positive experience back from initial deployments.

The Netherlands
A long standing supporter of the programme, the Dutch government ordered 20 NH90 NATO Frigate Helicopter (NFH) variants in 2000, along with 14 naval mission system suites to outfit them. Other NATO Helicopter Management Organisation (NAHEMO) countries have pushed back their own in-service dates and the Netherlands has inadvertently ended up as a lead customer for the NFH.
The Dutch transition from the Lynx SH14D to the NH90 NFH has been hampered by low availability of airframes, leading to a lack of the flying hours needed to convert and train aircrews. This has been the result of various causes ranging from inadequate availability of spare parts and delays with regard to aircraft deliveries due to qualification and certification issues, to a range of aircraft 'teething' problems, many of which have now been overcome.
Since accepting the first of its new helicopters in April 2010, the Netherlands has received 12 NFHs, the latest five of which were delivered in a Full Operational Capability (FOC) configuration. However, two interim Meaningful Operational Capability (MOC) airframes have recently been returned to Italy where they will be upgraded to FOC standards. The remaining five Dutch MOC NH90s will also head there for refit as deliveries of new FOC airframes continue.

The Dutch Ministry of Defence's (MoD's) current planning indicates that all 20 of its NH90s should be available by January 2018. However, IHS Jane's sources indicate that there is a risk of the retrofit programme being hit by a two year delay, with late 2019 now being mentioned as a possible end date, though negotiations are understood to be ongoing between Dutch officials and NHIndustries.
The Dutch helicopters are also to undergo a processor upgrade of their Thales European Naval Radar (ENR), when it is qualified in its Final Radar Configuration. This work is now planned to take place from 2015 onwards, with one aircraft currently serving as an FOC testbed in Italy.
Despite the fact that efforts at maritime air station De Kooy were very much focused on achieving initial operational capability (IOC) for home-based operations for most of 2013, the Netherlands deployed one of its MOC aircraft as part of the EU Naval Force's counter-piracy Operation 'Atalanta' during the first half of 2013. This was followed by a deployment to the Caribbean in the second half of 2013, the first operational deployment to involve an FOC NFH.

The first aircraft delivered to the Netherlands in January 2013 is now operating as part of Operation 'Ocean Shield' and another two counter-piracy deployments are scheduled to take place with other single NFH helicopters in 2014.
The FOC NFHs are fitted with self-protection features such as chaff and flare dispensers, and feature more reliable avionics. One of the lessons learned from Atalanta was that the aircraft's waist-mounted FN MAG 7.62 mm machine guns (MGs) were not effective and M3M 12.7 mm heavy MGs have since been introduced.

Meanwhile, operational testing and evaluation (OT&E) of the new shipborne helicopter is still ongoing, focusing on anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare (ASW/ASuW), with the first two-ship tactical surface warfare training mission being conducted by 860 Squadron on 12 February 2014.
Dutch operations with NH90 have recently been marred by cockpit noise level concerns and corrosion issues, the former leading to Dutch NH90 aircrews being restricted to flying a maximum of one hour per day. As an interim measure, Dutch NFHs have been fitted with additional soundproofing material and personnel will receive training in how to better adjust their Alpha 900 helmets and communication ear plugs.
The Dutch MoD is also looking at ways to reduce the noise produced by the helicopter's air conditioning and radar cooling systems, in order to lift flight restrictions soon.

Perhaps surprisingly since the NH90 boasts a largely composite material airframe, operations with the NFH off the coast of Somalia and in the Caribbean have led to disproportionate levels of corrosion, according to an MoD statement on 11 March. Sources indicate that one of the areas affected by significant corrosion was the helicopter's non-composite main rotor shaft.
A total of 12 NFHs are earmarked for use by 860 Squadron at De Kooy and a further eight aircraft will be delivered to 300 Squadron at Gilze-Rijen as so-called "NFHs in a tactical role".

These aircraft were destined to augment 300 Squadron's fleet of 17 Eurocopter AS532U2 Cougar Mk 2s by forming two additional flights for land- and sea-based operations, the latter from the Royal Netherlands Navy's Landing Platform Docks and the new Karel Doorman-class Joint Support Ship (JSS).
Due to a 2011 decision to reduce the Defence Helicopter Command's light transport helicopter inventory to eight aircraft and withdraw the Cougar altogether in 2017, the tactical NFHs will now in fact replace the Cougar, while the sea basing requirement seems to be in jeopardy due to the ongoing uncertainty about the long term concept of how to operate the JSS. This vessel is now being envisaged as a mere fleet replenishment tanker, which would also be capable of transporting heavy equipment under a possible European pooling and sharing scheme.
Despite all this, spare parts and ground equipment for the NFHs in the tactical transport role have now all been ordered and the Dutch military plans to have its first combat ready NH90 aircrew as part of 300 Squadron in 2016.

Italy
Further south, the Italian Navy has also been busy with its new helicopters.
Just a few months after coming into service in 2013, the Italian Navy's first 'FREMM' frigate ITS Carlo Bergamini deployed with the 20th Naval Group in Middle East and African waters, carrying the service's new SH90A (the local classification for its ASW/ASuW NH90).

The commander of the 5th Helicopter Group, Commander Paolo Gregoretti, told IHS Jane's that together with another SH90A deployment to NATO's Baltic-based Exercise 'Steadfast Jazz' aboard the Horizon-class destroyer Caio Duilio , the helicopter had "proved its performance and capabilities in both hot and cold operational environments, achieving over 90% aircraft availability".
Like the Dutch operations, both Italian deployed helicopters were in MOC configuration, which is a limited version of the FOC platform that will follow it into service.

The 5th Helicopter Group is the first Italian Navy unit to be equipped with the new type, currently fielding five MOC and four FOC SH90As. As of late April 2014, one of the MOC airframes had actually been taken offline to undergo its 600-hour maintenance overhaul and be brought up to FOC standard at AgustaWestland's Frosinone facility (which is also the hub for international retrofits).
According to Cdr Gregoretti, "the unit received the first MOC-configured helicopter in June 2011, followed by another two in the same year, one each in 2012 and the last in 2013. The first FOC was delivered in November 2013, followed by the other three FOC…. We have already logged more than 2,500 flying hours, scoring an average fleet availability of over 60%, an interesting achievement for a new platform."
He added that "we expect to receive four additional FOC-configured helicopters this year [2014] according to the latest delivery schedule, while the remaining MOC-configured helicopters will be retrofitted once they reach the 600 flying hours overhaul".
In total, the Italian Navy is to receive 46 ASW/ASuW-configured helicopters, joined at some future date by 10 NH90 TTH helicopters for transport and amphibious operations.

The SH90A FOC will be fitted with a unique range of weapon systems, including the MBDA Marte Mk2/S anti-ship missile, MU-90 lightweight torpedo, and up to two 7.62 mm pintle-mounted Gatling guns.
Its ASW/ASuW mission suite includes a Selex ES 'sonics' package, based on: an L-3 Communications' HELRAS Mod 3 low-frequency dipping sonar; a sonobouy subsystem and common acoustic processor; an ENR consortium (Thales/Selex ES/Airbus D&S) surface search radar; Elettronica DETE-90 electronic support measures (ESM)/ELINT system; Sagem forward-looking infrared (FLIR) camera; and a Selex ES V/UHF, HF and satellite communications suite, with Link 11 datalink.

All systems can be managed by two pilots and two systems operators working on mission consoles in the rear, and the mission package is a modular fit, so the helicopter can be swiftly reconfigured to suit a given mission. For example, an aircraft detailed for a search-and-rescue (SAR) sortie can be outfitted with a single console, freeing up space and weight to translate into accommodational range or time on station. Alternatively, the airframe can be stripped out and the sonar removed, to create a transport configuration with space for up to 14 personnel.
Following initial ground training carried out by AgustaWestland, a dedicated SH90 Training Academy Centre has been developed at Catania Air Station. Italian Navy pilots' reciprocal training began in January 2012 and by July the same year, five pilots had achieved the Combat Readiness qualification and others had begun flight training. "Today we are pursuing a training syllabus [the length of which varies with pilot experience] employing computer-based training devices and the EH101 mission simulator located at NAS Luni," Cdr Gregoretti said. "The latter is limited to HELRAS dipping sonar training."
He added that "the fly-by-wire flight control provides high stability and manoeuvrability, and the flexibility and interoperability offered by both the platform's performance and the mission and communications systems, [enables the SH90A to] perform a wide range of missions. As soon as the SH90A pilots reach their limited combat ready qualification, they follow dedicated training according to ASW/ASuW and special forces, or maritime security oriented missions." The latter activities are usually conducted in support of Italian Navy's Commando Raggruppamento Subacquei Ed Incursori Teseo Tesei (COMSUBIN) special forces based near La Spezia, and San Marco amphibious brigade maritime security embarked detachments.
Cdr Gregoretti told IHS Jane's that "as with the AB212 in the past, the SH90A is being used by sniper teams, receiving high marks thanks to its stability. Since last January, the SH90A has been qualified for free-fall parachute jumping, in addition to fast rope use. The platform and mission suite flexibility have been, however, put to pace since the first platform deployment."

In October 2012, an SH90A participated in the Combined Joined Personal Recovery Standardization Course, manned for the occasion by the European Air Group at Holzdorf Air Base in Germany. "During the deployment, the SH90A successfully acted as air mission co-ordinator to provide the [command-and-control] capabilities for the personnel recovery package."

The arrival of the FOC platforms has introduced new experiences, as they have been flying with the full mission suite subsystems, working with the initial FOC radar modes, dipping sonar, ESM and exploring the sonobouy subsystem capabilities, which have never before been carried by Italian Navy helicopters.

In addition to supporting the civil authorities during flooding in Sardinia in 2013, 5th Helicopter Group personnel have performed a series of escalating sea deployments, which have led to the SH90A's qualification to operate from FREMM, Horizon and other Italian Navy platforms, including the aircraft carrier Cavour .

During the deployments aboard Caio Duilio and Carlo Bergamini , the SH90A crews logged approximately 50 and 110 flight hours respectively. Cdr Gregoretti cited a Phased Logistic Support package signed between the navy and AgustaWestland - which has seen the service's maintenance personnel carry out incremental maintenance activities since the first FOC helicopter delivery in order to become independent as far as possible from industrial support - as a key reason for the type's high availability.
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NH90 Update Part 2

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Sweden
Delays have impacted on all of the NH90 operators, but they have arguably been most keenly felt by Sweden.
The 18 NH90 Tactical Troop Transport (TTT) helicopters - dubbed HKP 14 in Swedish Air Force (SwAF) service - ordered by the Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) in 2001 were originally supposed to have been fully operational in 2008. However, six years later, deliveries are still only in their very early stages and FOC is not now expected until 2017 at the earliest.
Speaking at the home of the SwAF's Helicopter Wing at Malmen Airbase near Linköping, in southern Sweden in mid-March, Lieutenant Colonel Stefan Stragnefeldt, Wing Commander Flying for NH90 (HKP 14) and the AgustaWestland AW109 (HKP 15) said that while these delays have proven frustrating, he is happy to finally be starting the process of introducing the type into service.
"There have been a lot of delays, and we are still working with delays. The delays have been bad, but we are now happy to have this helicopter here. It is one of the best helicopters in the world."

When it was first conceived in the 1990s, the NH90 procurement plan for Sweden was to see the country initially receive two HKP 14A and two HKP 14B 'basic-configuration' helicopters. These would be followed by five 'enhanced-basic' HKP 14C helicopters, featuring a raft of improvements including door-mounted 7.62 mm MGs, flotation devices, weather radar, and kits to increase troop seating from 16 to 20.
1522184Sweden's NH90 variants have a taller fuselage than the others, providing more head room for passengers. (Swedish Air Force)
Once these nine early helicopters were in place, deliveries of 13 full mission HKP 14D - NH90 TTT/SAR land-roled platforms would commence (to include the four HKP 14A/B and five HKP 14C aircraft retrofitted to HKP 14D standard), in parallel with deliveries of five HKP 14E (TTT/SAR/ASW) maritime-roled helicopters. When deliveries and retrofits were complete, the SwAF would be left with 13 operational HKP 14D and five HKP 14E helicopters.
However, the delays meant that this plan was changed quite dramatically. Sweden has so far received those two HKP 14A and two HKP 14B helicopters, the first of which arrived in early 2011. The programme delays then forced the SwAF to abandon its planned HKP 14C purchase (but not before a single example was delivered to the FMV), and instead request four TTT/IM (International Mission)-standard platforms, to be designated HKP 14D.
With the first HKP 14D delivered on 17 December 2013, three more will follow through to 2015. These four HKP 14Ds will be retrofitted to a new HKP 14E standard (NH90 TTT/SAR [land-roled]), as will the four HKP 14A/B and single HKP 14C helicopters. At the same time, the delivery of five HKP 14F (TTT/SAR/ASW [maritime-roled]) helicopters will begin.
Once deliveries and retrofits are complete, the SwAF will boast 13 operational HKP 14E and five HKP 14F helicopters (although discussions are ongoing for an ultimate 50:50 split of these two variants).

A peculiarity of the NH90 in general is that there are more variants in production than there are customers, and this is clearly demonstrated in the various configurations requested by the Swedish Armed Forces. Further to ordering aircraft of differing specifications, the SwAF has requested Swedish-specific equipment and configurations for its different variants.
The Sweden-only configurations include twin hoists as a result of lessons learned from the Estonia passenger ferry disaster in 1994, when a number of helicopters suffered malfunctions in their single hoist systems, hampering the rescue effort that night.

However, the most noticeable difference that sets the Swedish NH90s apart from others is an additional 25 cm of head room in the main cabin. As Col Stragnefeldt noted: "There is quite a difference from when you stand in a German NH90, for example, and it is really good. A lot of people thought that the high cabin would pose problems - cracking etc - but we haven't had any problems at all. I think that industry thinks this is a good idea and other nations are looking at it also. There are no penalties in terms of performance that we have noticed."
Col Stragnefeldt added that: "I really don't think that having a unique configuration contributed to the delays. All the other countries had almost the same problems which affected the entire delivery line."

Even so, the delays have had serious ramifications for the SwAF, not least of which was the knock-on effect of having to buy a completely new aircraft type in the Sikorsky UH-60M Black Hawk (HKP 16) to meet its medical evacuation requirements in Afghanistan. That these Black Hawks went from procurement decision to operational missions in just two years has not been lost on critics of the NH90/HKP 14 programme.
Still, with the first HKP 14D now with the SwAF at Malmen Airbase, Col Stragnefeldt said that progress is now being made in terms of training and standing up the new basing infrastructures at the type's future homes with1 Helicopter Squadron at Luleå (Kallax) Airport near the Finnish border, and with 3 Helicopter Squadron at Kallinge (Ronneby) Airport in the far south of Sweden.

"[The first HKP 14D delivery] was quite a milestone for us, as we have had the four [HKP 14A/B] basic troop transport helicopters since the beginning of 2011, which we started flying in April of that year. This basic helicopter had no maps, we couldn't fly IFR, and we had none of the mission equipment on it. For us though it was perfect for learning to fly [on the type], and it was a good platform to start with," he said.
In terms of training, the colonel explained that the split has so far been roughly even in real world:synthetic instruction. "In 2006/07 the first pilots began training in France, and we flew first in 2011. That was a long step, and we used a lot of full flight simulators in Germany during this time in between.

"For the first six months the pilots get [equal time in simulators and real-world flying]. Because we are not allowed to do any emergency training on the real helicopter, we need the simulators. We are constantly training new crews, who have mostly transferred over from the Super Puma which is going to be retired. Right now we are still learning to fly this new helicopter, and are not yet professionals on it, and it is going to take some time."
The HKP 14D helicopter - now delivered - features the new Saab Tactical Mission System, weather radar, digital maps, ballistic protection, countermeasures, and an electro-optical/infrared turret. "We are now learning to use this operationally," the colonel said. "We need to take our time and test a lot - that is very important."

Col Stragnefeldt was non-committal on the type's entry to full service, saying: "It is difficult to say when the HKP 14 will be fully operational, because of all the delays. I expect it to be somewhere in the period beyond 2017 - it certainly won't be before then. First, we have to train all the new people, we have to receive and retrofit all the helicopters, and set up the basing," he explained, before adding: "There's a lot to do."


Australia
Australia's acquisition project is currently running three years behind the original schedule, but despite still being on the Defence Materiel Organisation's 'Projects of Concern' list, the programme is making progress, with 27 aircraft accepted into service as of 1 April 2014. The 47th and final aircraft is due for delivery in July 2017.

During work up, a range of technical remedies have been implemented by the Australian Department of Defence and prime contractor, Australian Aerospace, is to address numerous deficiencies identified early in the initial OT&E phase of the aircraft, known locally as the MRH90 Taipan.
These include the introduction of: new engine start procedures to prevent engine degradation and failure through asymmetric heating; protective foil to mitigate windscreen cracking; a more durable main cabin floor; improved reliability of the inertial reference system with modified gyroscopes; modified main gearbox oil cooler fans; engine foreign object damage screens; incorporation of an aircraft software upgrade (called SUS1.1); and replacement of the weapon mount for the MAG-58 7.62 mm general-purpose MG.

Additionally, modifications unique to the Australian Defence Force variant include a dual position sniper bar, radios, stowage rack for the in-service Steyr 5.56 mm individual weapon, a weapon mount for the MAG-58 door gun, a pyrotechnic storage box and a wet deck for use during winching training and operations.

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has received all six of its MRH90 Maritime Support Helicopters (MSH) within 808 Squadron at HMAS Albatross . Navy MSH have successfully operated from the heavy lift ship HMAS Tobruk and the new sealift ship HMAS Choules (ex-RFA Largs Bay ) during Exercise 'Sea Dawn 2014' and last year's exercises 'Sea Lion' and 'Talisman Sabre' where aircraft performed a range of utility tasks and deck evolutions (day and night), as well as SAR for a man overboard from the cruise ship Carnival Spirit .
Such activities are a prelude to embarked operations on the RAN's two new 27,000-tonne Canberra-class landing helicopter dock (LHD) ships, where the knowledge and experience acquired to date on smaller ships and the measured operations from larger support and supply ships has established a foundation for operating from multiple landing spots on the LHDs (each ship has six deck spots for medium-size helicopters). It has also informed the development of systems and processes for the initial stages of amphibious force development, while embarked operations have highlighted areas requiring additional refinement and integration issues for resolution.

From the RAN's perspective, the aircraft "displays the necessary potential" to prosecute the range of MSH operations, including personnel transfer, vertical replenishment, SAR, medical evacuation, limited surface surveillance and helicopter visit, board, seize and search (HVBSS) operations.
Undertaking HVBSS missions will likely take on increasing importance once the existing S-70B-2 Seahawks are replaced by the new MH-60R, the latter's onboard systems reducing available space for boarding party personnel from six to four.
Whilst the Australian Army has yet to operate its MRH90 Taipan helicopters at sea in the strictest sense, aircraft have conducted winching training with special operations elements in Port Phillip Bay near Melbourne and individual and collective training with HMAS Tobruk during exercises in the southwest Pacific in 2012. The army has also operated aircraft in the troop-lift role during exercises in northern Australia and carried out reduced visibility operations trial activities during June to August 2013.

The army's experience of the MRH90 Taipan to date appears to be largely positive. A Defence spokesman asserted to IHS Jane's that the aircraft has "excellent" handling characteristics and offers significant combat and operational endurance over the S-70A-9 Black Hawk it replaces.
He added that the aircraft's advanced avionics, weather radar and forward-looking infrared (FLIR) "will enable [the] army to operate in environmental conditions that previously limited operations". The IOC for both RAN and army MRH90s is expected this year, with final operational capability currently planned for mid-2019.

New Zealand
Across the Tasman Sea, the Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) NH90 final release of capability is scheduled for the last quarter of 2015. SAR and advanced SAR, fast roping and rappelling, and limited embarked operations will be released by this milestone.
Six aircraft have thus far been delivered to 3 Squadron, with the remaining two set to be received in the third quarter of 2014.
One of the smallest operators of the type, New Zealand will be the first NH90 customer worldwide to have its full fleet delivered. The RNZAF NH90 fleet has already accumulated more than 1,000 flying hours.

The air mobile and air logistics support capabilities for the RNZAF NH90 have already been released, enabling both day and night flying - including instrument flying conditions - operating with night-vision goggles, formation flying by day, winching, carrying underslung loads, personnel transfers, and basic tactical trooping.

NH90 has been transported on the sealift and amphibious support ship HMNZS Canterbury as an initial trial to assess deck and hangar interfaces. First-of-class flight trials (FOCFT) have been completed by use of an instrumented ADF MRH90 flown by a test pilot from the RAN's 808 Squadron. The FOCFT successfully defined the acceptable limits of deck motion during take-off and landing on Canterbury , clearing the way for further OT&E by the Helicopter Transition Unit.

In an effort to remain interoperable with its allies and - in particular - maximise commonality with Australia's MRH90 fleet, the differences in RNZAF NH90s are limited to the addition of a fifth multifunction display, RT-1851 ARC-210 radios, wet deck for the cabin and RNZAF manufactured floor load spreaders, which add a layer of protection to the floor to prevent damage from boots, sharp objects and cargo.
According to the New Zealand Ministry of Defence, upgrade plans for the NH90 will focus on communications, navigation and surveillance (CNS) and air traffic management (ATM) compliance issues needed to meet changing global CNS/ATM standards for performance based navigation such as that through automatic dependent surveillance broadcast. Plans also exist to upgrade radios by the end of the decade.

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Makes for some good and interesting reading.
 
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ngatimozart

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Corrosion issue halts Dutch NH90 deliveries - 7/1/2014 - Flight Global

The bad news - the Dutch have uncovered significant corrosion issues with naval NH90

The good news - NH Industries working on solution, with plan due by Sept 14

Probably more of a concern to RAN, but those salty sea breezes coming off NZ's west coast must be an issue at Ohakea. Plus the potential to deploy into the Pacific Islands, or on Canterbury.
The RNZAF & ADF would have been aware because of the NH90 users group. I had read a story earlier this year about the NFH on prolonged embarkation and if memory serves correctly the corrosion was on the main rotor shaft.
 

htbrst

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Yes, also interesting that the latest Air Force News has a bit of a feature on the Portugese C295 that flew in back in February...snip...
Reason I find this inclusion of an externally-generated article in AFN interesting, is that a similar article extolling the virtues of the T-6C was published in Pacific Wings after the 2012 airshow,,,;)
A proper article on the C295 has appeared in the latest Pacific Wings and it contains some really interesting comparisons and figures in an NZ context:

  • In Portuguese service (5 P-3's which remain in service, the C-295 having taken over from Aviocars), they have gradually taken up 70% of the work done by the P-3.
  • The C-295 typically has a 11 hour endurance (vs 16 for the P-3)
  • Comparable in size and MTOW to the Andover, but the C295 has double the range, carries 3T more payload, more passengers (and is faster) for less fuel used.
  • The article posits as discussed in here before that a small fleet of C295's could extend the P-3's (and C-130's ) life by taking over many of the smaller tasks that don't require the bigger aircraft.

I found the comparison with the Andover interesting, given how popular that aircraft tended to be in NZ service, with perhaps the exception of range.
 

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First Royal New Zealand Air Force Beechcraft T-6C takes flight | Australian Aviation

Australian Aviation has a nice shot of the first Beechcraft in Kiwi colours airborne in Kansas.

The speed with which this project is being delivered is impressive, once a decision was finally made. I think it shows the benefits of buying a proven off-the-shelf product from a reputable manufacturer, rather than some half-arsed cheapskate solution.

Hopefully this point will be noted in Wellington, but I'm not holding my breath!
Interesting link here with some definite relevance to RNZAF T6 purchase (also contains some non-NZ news). CAE - Defence & Security

Also found an interesting link to another site (blog site so guess I can't post link) that shows apparent delivery route (via Europe & Asia) for NZ1401 along with an arrival date of about 20th August (no source of info given but it looks the real deal). First a/c apparently to remain property of Beechcraft whilst techs are trained etc - until about November when official handover takes place.
 

Gibbo

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Interesting link here with some definite relevance to RNZAF T6 purchase (also contains some non-NZ news). CAE - Defence & Security

Also found an interesting link to another site (blog site so guess I can't post link) that shows apparent delivery route (via Europe & Asia) for NZ1401 along with an arrival date of about 20th August (no source of info given but it looks the real deal). First a/c apparently to remain property of Beechcraft whilst techs are trained etc - until about November when official handover takes place.
I see latest RNZAF news confirms expected arrival on 20th August - after a 26 stage delivery flight!
 

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I really like the C-295 as a platform for nations with smaller budgets it seems to be able to do a plethora of roles - MPA, tactical transport, gunship, AEW.

Albeit not with one single airframe.
 

kiwi in exile

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I really like the C-295 as a platform for nations with smaller budgets it seems to be able to do a plethora of roles - MPA, tactical transport, gunship, AEW.

Albeit not with one single airframe.
Me too. In many ways it's a perfect aircraft for NZ's discussed medium transport and potentially lower tier MPA needs. Except that if you are willing and able to spend a little bit more, a C27 has better capability. EW, ISR and gunship packages can be added too. This is where it gets complicated.
 

ngatimozart

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Me too. In many ways it's a perfect aircraft for NZ's discussed medium transport and potentially lower tier MPA needs. Except that if you are willing and able to spend a little bit more, a C27 has better capability. EW, ISR and gunship packages can be added too. This is where it gets complicated.
Yes but where the C295 has it over the C27J is in the roles, other than tactical transport, that NZ, would be interested in, the C295 has an already proven track record. The current NZG has stated that it is wanting MOTS and COTS that are already in service or are proven. Having said that there are EW, ISR, etc., options available that are palletised and modularised. Some sensors can be fitted to doors, come in pods same as the drop tanks, or easily fitted to aircraft without requiring holes to be cut into the airframe. It's a matter of fitting and integration. Some of the pod style ones have their own power generators. In NZs case, cost would be an over riding factor but if it was an easy fit for EW and ISR, utilisation of an existing transport aircraft would be an attractive option. I am aware that the C295 has six hardpoints on the wings but at present am unable to find any confirmation of the number of hard points on the C27J wings. I am aware that Alenia have added hard points to the fuselage for the Praetorian variant they are working on with the Italian Air Force.

Edit - Addition: As people will know I am quite fond of the A400 and Think Defence recently posted a journal article on the A400 as an MPA and here. Within the articles are discussions about various modules and sensors that could be added to the airframe in order for it to operate in an MPA role and / or ISR role which are NZs capabilities of interest. This way it may be actually a cheaper option than the P8 but fulfill the same desired role to the same level of capability, giving a far greater range, be cheaper to operate and able to operate at low level. This is a link to an earlier Think Defence journal article on the A400 in what I would call a Multi Mission Aircraft role which is what Boeing label the P8. This article looks at various means of adding off the shelf components to the aircraft for the role without having to cut holes in the aircraft to do so. Now this is also pertinent to the C295 and C27J as discussed above. The Italian Air Force also has a C27J JEDI that it is working on as well that is an EW variant. Whether or not the NZDF would want to have this capability or not is another story.
 
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