Georgian military build-up

Balancer

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I seriously doubt that Georgia will ever get modern weapon from Nato states: as US are not going to let Russia check in a battle its contemporary weapon and find its weak sides. So i can hardly imagine AH64 / A1M2 / Patriot Pac3 or even F16 ...... Moreover F16 with georgian pilot is no way serious threat than F16 with US pilot , the same story with tanks / helicopters

Nobody in US will risk the image of its weapons.

all what will get Georgia will be from Ukrain/Israel/Turkey. and something old (from 70s)from US
 

Feanor

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The problem with the Georgian military isn't the equipment. It's the doctrine, the training, and coordination for large scale operations.
 

Balancer

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The problem with the Georgian military isn't the equipment. It's the doctrine, the training, and coordination for large scale operations.

doctrine, equipment and coordination will do nothing against people living in Osetia or Abhazia. Georgians will have to murder all the men in this "new independent states" to join this territory. It is possible to defeat an army, but not the people ......

I have 2 friends born in Abhazia ,(they were studying with me in University) they told me that they will buy RPG and Kalashnikov and go to protect their land and families if any Georgians' attack happens again.
 

Feanor

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No, it's much less likely than that. It's about as likely as Cuba ever being able to beat the USA.
You know the parallel is striking. Bay of Pigs, Russian involvement in the Georgian Civil War. Animosity on the ideological level. Foreign support by a distant super power.
 

KonTim

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According to internet sources Georgians are in path of designing a modern MBT with the help of General Dynamics Land Division but also with the help of General Electric.The tank main armament is a 125 mm smoothbore gun with a coaxial 7,62 machine gun as secondary armament.

Here's some pics:
 

Sandhi Yudha

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According to internet sources Georgians are in path of designing a modern MBT with the help of General Dynamics Land Division but also with the help of General Electric.The tank main armament is a 125 mm smoothbore gun with a coaxial 7,62 machine gun as secondary armament.

Here's some pics:
How reliable are these sources? You can imagine how huge the budget have to be to develope a modern MBT. And why should Georgia develope an own new MBT?
 

Feanor

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Sandhi Yudha

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I don't see why they can't grab some surplus T-72M1s, contract an Israeli company to modify the turret, import some modern optics from Germany or France, and then call it a "Georgian" tank.

There's some interesting, and telling, displays of Georgian military equipment here:

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I know the commentary is in Russian, so if you need translations, feel free to ask.
Thanks for the links,interesting pictures.
What is the Lazika armoured vehicle? Import or an locally modified Russian IFV?

Whats this thing below? I t looks like the Georgians are quite proud at this locally made device.
 

Corio

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Whats this thing below? I t looks like the Georgians are quite proud at this locally made device.
As far as i understand it is a off-route anti-tank mine (designed to be detonated in proximity of a vehicle and not underneath it). I think there's a picture on the blog Feanor provided links to that says just that - RD-7 anti tank mine.
 

Feanor

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Thanks for the links,interesting pictures.
What is the Lazika armoured vehicle? Import or an locally modified Russian IFV?
It's a heavily modified BMP-2 fitted with imported kit. As many as 3 have been seen at the same time. It's unclear whether they have a larger program going, for converting BMP-2s into Lazika IFVs. Given their own fairly limited supply of BMP-2s, it's likely they would have to source surplus BMP-2s abroad, if they started a major program to that intent.
 
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