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Thats a pretty good diagram, i'm more inclined to believe that diagram than the video because from what the video shows as if you pause at 0:22 there are very few visible details on the 'roof' of that smaller structure.
Looks like a pretty formidable ship, i have to say if the ship comes out as it is portrayed in the diagram the RN will have a first class frigate.
(plus TWO Merlins!? That's gunna be a mean ASW platform)
I know I shouldn't get so enthusiastic about these things, but i can't help it
EDIT: just noticed the 155mm naval gun on the front, enthusiasm on this being a reasonably accurate diagram has taken a dive somewhat
Cancelled because it'd be yet another bespoke, UK-only system which is unlikely to be bought by anyone else & which we'd therefore have to bear all the costs of.Unfortunately, I read somewhere that the 155 mm naval gun was cancelled for some reason and they will go on with sth far smaller...
It's likely that Type 26 will have a 127mm gun. That's the most popular calibre, enabling sharing of logistics with allies, smart ammunition exists already, & there's a choice of suppliers, either US or Italian.
Why change the weapon-ship interface? Why not just buy SCALP Naval with the same interface as the French use? Why spend more money on changing it? Our ships don't have the same systems as the aircraft which carry Storm Shadow, & theirs don't have the same systems as the aircraft which carry SCALP EG. The logistical overlap with Storm Shadow will be much the same whichever interface to the ship it has.
The French have redesigned SCALP into SCALP Naval because the air-launched version doesn't fit VLS silos or torpedo tubes, or have enough range to be a credible submarine & ship launched cruise missile. SCALP Naval has maybe 3 times the range of SCALP EG/Storm Shadow.
Yes - it is mostly to illustrate where the second CAMM Silo is located.Thats a pretty good diagram, i'm more inclined to believe that diagram than the video because from what the video shows as if you pause at 0:22 there are very few visible details on the 'roof' of that smaller structure.
Looks like a pretty formidable ship, i have to say if the ship comes out as it is portrayed in the diagram the RN will have a first class frigate.
(plus TWO Merlins!? That's gunna be a mean ASW platform)
I know I shouldn't get so enthusiastic about these things, but i can't help it
EDIT: just noticed the 155mm naval gun on the front, enthusiasm on this being a reasonably accurate diagram has taken a dive somewhat
CAAM seems like a very good system, and should allow T26 to have a large amount of missiles loaded.
The big choices i think are what VLS system to adopt, and whether to go for Harpoon or a sucessor SSM system.
Would there be an advantage of SCALP over TacTom like the SSN's?
I think it was probably accurate when it was drawn, but accurate as in an accurate depiction of one proposal, & things have changed since then. The size seems to have come down a bit, as well as the gun & other changes.EDIT: just noticed the 155mm naval gun on the front, enthusiasm on this being a reasonably accurate diagram has taken a dive somewhat
The only advantages I can think of are some logistical overlap with Storm Shadow, & not dependent on US sourcing - but the latter has never been a problem with TacTom. It may have the disadvantage of shorter range (the maximum range isn't clear).
AFAIK the range value being tossed around is 1000km for SCALP Naval
My choice for VLS system is the A70, anything less than that would be disappointing in my eyes as i think MBDA are basing the Sylver launchers as the launch system for the new Perseus missile (but not sure) not to mention it can use Tomahawks, SCALP Naval etc it just provides such a variaton in munitions.
They may well stick with Harpoon and mount a naval strike missile like SCALP Naval, either way they're most probably going to stick with Harpoon
Not me the CoA. AEGIS was selected as the combat system for the project before a platform was selected, the only way Type 45 would have got up is if they offered the US system.
It does make sense when you think about it, the RAN already had ESSM in service, SM2 on order and CEAFAR/CEAMOUNT under development with US involvement in the follow on AUSPAR system that may replace AEGIS down the track.
That said I really like theplatform.
Supply of TacTom is actually a positive advantage because I'm sure that at times in the past, RN subs have pulled up alongside USN ships and drawn on US stock. Doubt we'd get that with StormShadow/Scalp.
Yes, they do...
Set up is....
X2 GT's
X4 Diesel Genny's + x1 Emegcy Genny
(Scroll to the bottom of the link(Below))
Duke Class (Type 23) - Naval Technology
Anixtu
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Ah, I meant additional DGs that are solely for non-propulsive power rather than shared propulsion/service generators. Like old-style turbo-electric installations where the main turbines generated solely for propulsion and there were separate turbo-generators for non-propulsive needs.
Still, answers my question nicely, thanks!
Still, answers my question nicely, thanks!
I THINK these 'pics' are based from data extracted from THIS website:
Royal Navy Type 26 Frigate
Which took the data posted by BAE & that you linked to here :
Type 26 Frigate - Global Combat Ship datasheet pictures photos video specifications
Pity that most of this stuff is now about 18months old & that the ACTUAL SHIP may only partially resemble the BAE models / pictures....
Also MOST of that T-26 data was posted back in July 2010 on this thread...
SA
The UK CMS has already been integrated with SM2, and I think ESSM. We'll have to see what comes out of the yank radar programme. They bought into the Dutch technology to allow them to catch up, so it should be fairly good.
p.s. RobW fair enough, I understand the excitement, but in reality T26 is in very early days
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