Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

[Feanor]

The contracts that have been signed are as follows:

164 bln roubles 4 Project 885M Yasen-M submarines, to be delivered by 2016 signed with the USC

47 bln for Project 885M Kazan signed with Sevmash

39 bln for development costs for the Project 955A Borey class (upgrade of the original project 955) signed with Rubin Bureau

13.4 bln for development costs for project 885M signed with Malakhit Bureau

11.5 bln for delivery of project 21300 rescue ship Igor Belorusov, signed with Admiralty Shipyards

4 bln for development of project 11442 modernization project for the Admiral Nakhimov signed with Severnoe Bureau

3 bln for repair and modernization of project 667BDRM Novomoskovsk signed with Zvezdochka

The contract for serial production of Project 955A class boats is expected next year.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/105985.html

These are the actual figures. In terms of price discrepancies, I would consider that in many cases the support cost for the social infrastructure of the small northern towns, where the docks are located, are factored into the submarines price, because they're city forming enterprises, which is why in many cases the submarines cost more then expected.

http://lenta.ru/news/2011/11/09/contracts/

EDIT: It looks like two more ships are joining the Caspian flotilla before the end of the year, project 11661K Dagestan, and the project 21630 Volgodonsk. Both ships have already been built, and even participated in some exercises, but the official handover is still ahead. Also 4 more project 21630 ships are expected before 2020.

http://lenta.ru/news/2011/11/09/caspian/

 

[Klaus]

So that means the Caspian flotilla will get nine ships in total (6 Buyan and 3 Gepard).
Will they also receive any combat aircraft? Fortunately, most of the countries in the region have a rather friendly relationship with Russia, so they probably won't need that many (if they get some at all...).

 

[Feanor]

So that means the Caspian flotilla will get nine ships in total (6 Buyan and 3 Gepard).
Will they also receive any combat aircraft? Fortunately, most of the countries in the region have a rather friendly relationship with Russia, so they probably won't need that many (if they get some at all...).

I don't think the Caspian flotilla has any maritime strike capability. That having been said, the Su-24M and Su-34 out of Baltimore could be used for that role should the need arise.

 

[AegisFC]

I don't think the Caspian flotilla has any maritime strike capability. That having been said, the Su-24M and Su-34 out of Baltimore could be used for that role should the need arise.

Baltimore? I'm not sure a city in Maryland has SU-24 or SU-34's.:

 

[Feanor]

Baltimore? I'm not sure a city in Maryland has SU-24 or SU-34's.

It's the name of the airbase near Voronezh, that houses what used to be a Frontal Bomber Regiment, and is now an airgroup of Airbase 7000. It has 2-3 Squadrons of Su-24M, and is the first line unit to get the Su-34. If anything major happened in the North Caucus area, they would be involved in the response.

Baltimore? I'm not sure a city in Maryland has SU-24 or SU-34's.:

We're talking alternate history here. Where the USSR took over the East Coast, after the Cuban Missile Crisis. :crazy

 

[alexkvaskov]

New Russian destroyer

I don't know whether or not this has been brought up in this thread, but does anyone have any info or updates regarding the latest Russian destroyer? (the project 21956)

 

[Feanor]

I don't know whether or not this has been brought up in this thread, but does anyone have any info or updates regarding the latest Russian destroyer? (the project 21956)

The project is dead. It was an export proposal iirc back in '07, but nobody was interested. The VMF wants a new stealth destroyer under nuclear propulsion. It's meant to replace BPK ships, the Slava class, and current destroyers. I don't think there is a publicly announced project number at this point.

 

[alexkvaskov]

The project is dead. It was an export proposal iirc back in '07, but nobody was interested. The VMF wants a new stealth destroyer under nuclear propulsion. It's meant to replace BPK ships, the Slava class, and current destroyers. I don't think there is a publicly announced project number at this point.

Well then this means that Russia will have no sizeable destroyer force anymore. How on earth do they expect to build reasonable numbers of nuclear powered destroyers
(and btw nuclea propulsion on destroyers is far from necessary) if even the Americans can't do it? :hitwall

 

[swerve]

Baltimore? I'm not sure a city in Maryland has SU-24 or SU-34's.:

There's a Baltimore in the USA, as well as Ireland? Well I never! Are there any towns in the British isles that don't have somewhere over there named after them?

Should really be Baile an Tí Mhóir, BTW.

 

[Feanor]

Well then this means that Russia will have no sizeable destroyer force anymore. How on earth do they expect to build reasonable numbers of nuclear powered destroyers
(and btw nuclea propulsion on destroyers is far from necessary) if even the Americans can't do it? :hitwall

You should ask the MoD that. Though I suspect a query to their public relations department will result in a polite explanation that the plans are classified, and/or that no public plans currently exist.

In all honesty I have doubts that Russian military shipbuilding can produce a large series of destroyers, be they nuclear powered or otherwise. So this argument is most likely academic. I will be surprised if they get more then 1-2 ships commissioned before 2020, if construction takes off at all. Given how they have plans for overhaul and serious modernization of the Kuznetsov, and one of the inactive Kirovs, they will have their hands full as is.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Baltimore? I'm not sure a city in Maryland has SU-24 or SU-34's.:

A colleague of mine has 2 x SU-27's sitting outside his office in the US.

 

[StevoJH]

A colleague of mine has 2 x SU-27's sitting outside his office in the US.

Its probably more common then people would think?

I think Jeremy Clarkson had a Sea Harrier on his front lawn at one point....

 

[Feanor]

A colleague of mine has 2 x SU-27's sitting outside his office in the US.

Wait, where was this?

 

[gf0012-aust]

Wait, where was this?

east coast

 

[Feanor]

east coast

This is internet, so pics or it didn't happen.

 

[gf0012-aust]

This is internet, so pics or it didn't happen.

info in the mod forum.

 

[Haavarla]

A colleague of mine has 2 x SU-27's sitting outside his office in the US.

Hopefully they will fly again.. like with Pride's Chief Pilot, Steve Kirik.
Though, I'm sure they do great as a 'collector objects'.

 

[T.C.P]

Another successful Bulava test-

Russia successfully test fires Bulava missiles | Defense | RIA Novosti

Russia is on a roll with the Bulavas, two successful tests this year.

 

[Feanor]

This is the volley-fire test, so the next step should be acceptance into service for the missile. The launch was from a submerged sub, they fired two rockets, and the sub was the Yuriy Dolgorukiy. Btw, this is the 4th successful launch this year.

http://newsru.com/russia/23dec2011/bulava.html

 

[Belesari]

This is the volley-fire test, so the next step should be acceptance into service for the missile. The launch was from a submerged sub, they fired two rockets, and the sub was the Yuriy Dolgorukiy. Btw, this is the 4th successful launch this year.

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This is good news for russia indeed after all the problems their missle and rocket programs have had lately.