New Indian Air Force Fighter competition

[dragonfire]

Did they disclose equipments & weapons provided with the planes?

Well extensive details are not yet available in the public also because during the course of the negotiations the combinations would get altered. However it is foreseeable that IAF would demand for all the latest available weapons and also to enable the platform operated other nation weapons. What is obvious is Training, Spares and Support

 

[amirhessam]

Indian Air Force aircraft with a collection of Eastern and Western transfer has absolute power in Central Asia.
Bhtryh Dshdh production aircraft in Indian Air Force is in the East and West, su-30, Mirage, F -15, f-16 and ...

 

[artstyle]

most likley typhoon is running ahead as for now, they are wooing IAF and DRDO with many offers in excess,
they have offered india a partnership in typhoon-program , which means that india will be able to produce those thypoons unlike the ones being produced by TOT, which inturn enables drdo with good guidance for its future "mrca"(not mmrca) ,also they offered india a participation in their naval variant development program,

even a strong british lobbying is running in the new delhi, supported by the other 3 countries ,

lets see , whether dassault will offer any "toffees" to iaf to counter the typhoons new offer....
any way this competition helps iaf grabing much ,if the open bid was not called then
iaf should have taken those mig"s as usually from the russians ,agreeing to what they will offer for ......and giving the same


my choice is eurofighter -typohoon.....................

 

[Twinblade]

Indian Air Force aircraft with a collection of Eastern and Western transfer has absolute power in Central Asia.
Bhtryh Dshdh production aircraft in Indian Air Force is in the East and West, su-30, Mirage, F -15, f-16 and ...

I could not make out a word of your post, can you be more clear ? besides for IAF to operate in central asia, it would have to cross either pakistani or chinese territory.

 

[SABRE]

I could not make out a word of your post, can you be more clear ? besides for IAF to operate in central asia, it would have to cross either pakistani or chinese territory.

Neither did I. May be he meant South Asia.

But In addition to what you have said, the SCO (which includes Central Asian Republics) countries are not allowed to host foreign forces for permanent/long term stay. That is why IAF plans to deploy fighters in Tajikistan fell out.

 

[Feanor]

Neither did I. May be he meant South Asia.

But In addition to what you have said, the SCO (which includes Central Asian Republics) countries are not allowed to host foreign forces for permanent/long term stay. That is why IAF plans to deploy fighters in Tajikistan fell out.

That's strange. They've been hosting Russian bases for over a decade.

 

[Twinblade]

Neither did I. May be he meant South Asia.

But In addition to what you have said, the SCO (which includes Central Asian Republics) countries are not allowed to host foreign forces for permanent/long term stay. That is why IAF plans to deploy fighters in Tajikistan fell out.

I thought it fell out primarily because Russia considered Tajikistan its background. Russia AFAIK has two bases in Tajikistan.

 

[swerve]

But In addition to what you have said, the SCO (which includes Central Asian Republics) countries are not allowed to host foreign forces for permanent/long term stay..

Not allowed by who?

 

[Twinblade]

the benchmark price of the MMRCA deal may go up by as much as 50%, it is very much possible that the deal may end up being around 15 to 16 billion USD without even factoring in additional orders, say Col. Ajai Shukla (retd) on his blog (also a strong supporter of scrapping MMRCA for JSF).

 

[SABRE]

Not allowed by who?

I think it was in the SCO provision. Its been a long time I looked into it.

I thought it fell out primarily because Russia considered Tajikistan its background. Russia AFAIK has two bases in Tajikistan.

That was one of the reasons.

That's strange. They've been hosting Russian bases for over a decade.

Yeah, that is what has gotten me confused. As I said its been a long time since I looked into the matter.

May be it said no foreign fixed wing aircraft should be stationed permanently.

I guess I need to go through the SCO provisions again.

 

[youpii]

There are few details yet about the modernization contact for Mirage 2000. But's likely to include weapons & equipments that can also be used on Rafale, lowering the total operating costs.

 

[raptor2019]

Pilot killed in Indian AF MiG-21 crash

Pilot killed in Indian AF MiG-21 crash

Elderly Russian craft keep killing pilots while the government dithers on modernization.

Earlier this month, yet another Russian-origin MIG-21 fighter crashed in the desert state of Rajasthan, killing a young trainee pilot and once more underlining what is perhaps the worst crash rate of any combat aircraft in operation anywhere in the world.

Not for nothing, the aircraft have been dubbed flying coffins. But in a bigger sense, their continued use is a depressing reflection on India’s slow and torturous defense modernization process to procure new fighter jets.

The elderly MIGs have formed the backbone of the Indian Air Force’s air strike capability for almost five decades, since the days when India led the world’s non-aligned movement and bought most of its military equipment from the Soviet Union, which disintegrated, leaving the Indian air force with a scarcity of spare parts. Technical snags and shoddy servicing also have resulted in many MIGs going down, killing pilots and severely disabling the Indian Air Force’s attack capability.

read more-->>

 

[Twinblade]

MMRCA Bids Open 10 Days From Now: IAF Chief

After all the drama, speculation and seemingly endless amount of bandwidth wasted on discussing everything, from political relations to logistics and flame wars on superiority of individual platform and its subsystems, finally there seems to be an end at sight.

 

[PeterCrisp]

I really hope the Eurofighter wins and some of the job losses at BAE can be avoided or at least some of them rehired.

 

[Twinblade]

I really hope the Eurofighter wins and some of the job losses at BAE can be avoided or at least some of them rehired.

BAE made it clear that the 3000 job cuts at Warton would happen regardless of EF winning the MMRCA or not, as most of the production will happen in India and the initial orders would be assembled by Cassidian.

Meanwhile it would still take 3 weeks of number crunching and meetings after the bids are opened to select the winner.

 

[Eeshaan]

MMRCA Bids Open 10 Days From Now: IAF Chief

After all the drama, speculation and seemingly endless amount of bandwidth wasted on discussing everything, from political relations to logistics and flame wars on superiority of individual platform and its subsystems, finally there seems to be an end at sight.

Thank the heavens. The wait is finally going to be over. I just hope that the deal comes through with the transfer of technology.

TOT in my opinion is the most important aspect of purchasing foreign-made hardware...

 

[legoboy]

Hmmmm do you think the U.S will still offer the Indians F-35's if they buy the T-50 ?

Because in that case India could buy a small quantity of each advanced Russia/Euro/US aircraft and just learn a whole bunch of stuff from all of it.

 

[Twinblade]

Hmmmm do you think the U.S will still offer the Indians F-35's if they buy the T-50 ?

Because in that case India could buy a small quantity of each advanced Russia/Euro/US aircraft and just learn a whole bunch of stuff from all of it.

F-35 has not been offered officially to India. Indian Navy had sent RFI's to all MMRCA candidates for naval fighters. BAE responded with Naval Typhoon concept at Aero India 2011, Dassault, LM and Boeing haven't responded officially yet. SAAB responded with a presentation on Sea Gripen.

F-35 production shall offer least technology transfer to India, and by the time F-35 production slots are made available for any Indian order, hopefully, AMCA should be ready.

 

[PeterCrisp]

BAE made it clear that the 3000 job cuts at Warton would happen regardless of EF winning the MMRCA or not, as most of the production will happen in India and the initial orders would be assembled by Cassidian.

Meanwhile it would still take 3 weeks of number crunching and meetings after the bids are opened to select the winner.

That's a shame. Will a successful bid at least secure the remaining staff for a few more years? I'm assuming that once production has finished they will shed jobs unless they start manufacturing something else but I can't imagine the RAF ordering anything anywhere near as complicated any time soon.

 

[colay]

F-35 has not been offered officially to India. Indian Navy had sent RFI's to all MMRCA candidates for naval fighters. BAE responded with Naval Typhoon concept at Aero India 2011, Dassault, LM and Boeing haven't responded officially yet. SAAB responded with a presentation on Sea Gripen.

F-35 production shall offer least technology transfer to India, and by the time F-35 production slots are made available for any Indian order, hopefully, AMCA should be ready.

It would make sense to standardize on a common platform so perhaps this willweigh in favor of the winning MMRCA bidder. Has the Indian Navy made any commitment to adoption of CATOBAR capability or will they go for a simpler ski-jump approach?