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100% spot on, but the issue is that Labour (and possibly National) see ASW as support for a US led military force. Until you can convince people that state sponsored asymmetric warfare for NZ is likley to involve sub's laying mines, carrying out cruise missile strikes in order to influence or force NZ do follow a certain line of thinking the chances of improving ASW capability is going to be limited to what defence can acheive within single service capital budgets. As for the the ANZAC's I thought they had a reasonable range, ignoring environmental variables.I have to say that Im a little worried about the reducing level of ASW in the NZDF , wasnt that long ago we had 4 asw frigates , 6 asw aircraft all not that far behind in the techno stakes but now we are down to just two frigates with sonars that could barely hear a diver banging at 50mtrs and aircraft that havent been updated in decades (ASW) , I feel that subs are the single biggest threat to NZ and now we are almost blind Every substantional (no pun intended) nation around us either have subs or are upskilling for them .
On a side issue I found this on Hansards about the M-339
19736 (2007). Heather Roy to the Minister of Defence (29 Nov 2007): What are the names, dates and references of all reports, minutes and memoranda relating to the decision to reject the Aermacchis as Advanced Pilot Training Aircraft?
Hon Phil Goff (Minister of Defence) replied: As stated in the reply to question for written answer No. 16960 (2007), informal RNZAF work considered the theoretical possibility of using the MB339 Aermacchi for flying training. Their use in this role was hypothetical as the sale of the ex-Air Combat Force aircraft is expected to proceed. To allow the theoretical work to be carried out, two planning documents were generated, namely, MB339 Planning Assumptions, AIR 3185/21, dated 25 July 2007, and an Update to MB339 Planning Assumptions, AIR 3185/21 dated 27 August 2007. During a meeting of Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) officers in mid-September, it was apparent that with the current operational fleet of aircraft that the Aermacchi could not replace the B200 aircraft and deliver all of the advanced training capability required by the Royal New Zealand Air Force. Furthermore, the operating cost of a training capability package that included the Aermacchi aircraft would be three times that of an advanced pilot training capability delivered by a purpose-specific multi-engined aircraft.