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Mig-29
I'm on a Mig-29 kick and had a few questions and figure I'll post here. I'm looking for Russian squadrons train against each other. Mig-29 squadrons vs. Su-27 squadron. In the US, F-16, F-15, F/A-18 train against each other all the time I'm interested in reading about Russians training against each other. Does anybody know if there's anything in English I could find on the subject, thanks.
I'm on a Mig-29 kick and had a few questions and figure I'll post here. I'm looking for Russian squadrons train against each other. Mig-29 squadrons vs. Su-27 squadron. In the US, F-16, F-15, F/A-18 train against each other all the time I'm interested in reading about Russians training against each other. Does anybody know if there's anything in English I could find on the subject, thanks.
I believe the Malaysian Air force should have some interesting insight into that, but then nothing much comes out of RMAF in the press.
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Sudan Mig-29
Did Sudan receive a shipment of new Russian MIG-29 tactical fighters from Belarus? I saw this but thought Russia and Belarus quote in the press no Fulcrums were delivered? Just trying to confirm it one way or the other and didn't see anything else beside this link. Thanks
Sudan receives new shipment of Russian fighter jets
http://armoreddefense.com/home/sudan-receives-new-shipment-of-russian-fighter-jets/2008/07/24/
Did Sudan receive a shipment of new Russian MIG-29 tactical fighters from Belarus? I saw this but thought Russia and Belarus quote in the press no Fulcrums were delivered? Just trying to confirm it one way or the other and didn't see anything else beside this link. Thanks
Sudan receives new shipment of Russian fighter jets
http://armoreddefense.com/home/sudan-receives-new-shipment-of-russian-fighter-jets/2008/07/24/
Some Mig-29 pictures from the Hungarian Airforce:
http://www.panoramio.com/user/1222070/tags/Kecskem%C3%A9t
http://www.panoramio.com/user/1222070/tags/Kecskem%C3%A9t
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This might be a little off topic but does Russia still use any Mig-25s? And also how many Mig-31s do they have and have they been upgraded? I can't find anything other than from Wikipedia, any help would be nice.
Few special Mig-25's are still there (recon, test beds). Rest are retired.
Check this tread- http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=2608
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Mig-35
Just reading the below attached article and was a little shocked that it mentioned for the Russia's Su-33 naval fighter replacement fighter choice the Su-27KUB or MiG-29K. Why would they mention the K model Fulcrum not even delivered yet by the way and not the Mig-35? Is the Mig-35 a dead issue? Wouldn't a carrier model Mig-35 be made for Russia's own carrier? Wouldn't it make more sense going with the more advance type with all the cool improvements built in? I always looked at the India K model order as a "special order" for India's carrier and part of the carrier deal, but not MIG's production aircraft for the Fulcrum type. It would seem to be that way since there looking at it as a future type for their own carrier. I haven't heard any Mig-35 news in months and only for the Indian fighter deal does anybody have any updated information?
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Article
Russian Navy to adopt new carrier fighters after 2016
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080907/116601791.html
Just reading the below attached article and was a little shocked that it mentioned for the Russia's Su-33 naval fighter replacement fighter choice the Su-27KUB or MiG-29K. Why would they mention the K model Fulcrum not even delivered yet by the way and not the Mig-35? Is the Mig-35 a dead issue? Wouldn't a carrier model Mig-35 be made for Russia's own carrier? Wouldn't it make more sense going with the more advance type with all the cool improvements built in? I always looked at the India K model order as a "special order" for India's carrier and part of the carrier deal, but not MIG's production aircraft for the Fulcrum type. It would seem to be that way since there looking at it as a future type for their own carrier. I haven't heard any Mig-35 news in months and only for the Indian fighter deal does anybody have any updated information?
Thanks
Article
Russian Navy to adopt new carrier fighters after 2016
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080907/116601791.html
The Mig-29K is an advanced form of the Mig-29 and includes features for aircraft carrier use such as beefier landing gear and folding wings. The Mig-29 was also tested on the Russian aircraft carriers last decade. The Mig-29K is being delivered to the Indian Navy for use on IN aircraft carriers and it would make sense to keep these in production.
The Mig-35 is a not yet in production as it has not been sold yet. It does not have the beefed up landing gear or folding wings (that would be a waste for a land-based plane).
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As salty said the "K" is the navalized fulcrum. You wont be seeing any F-35A's flying of carrier decks, doesn't mean the F-35C has been canned.
The Mig 29 K is almost the same as the Mig 35, except the new OLS and the AESA radar which I can think of right now. In that case, the Mig 29K which if adopted by the Navy can easily have these incorporated + other newer developments by the time the competition takes off.
The Mig-29K is lighter, smaller and has less range than the Su-27KUB or the Su-33. It carries less payload. This would be like regressing from a Super Hornet back to the legacy Hornet. Would this be really be a wise thing to do for Russian carrier aviation? I doubt we will see both the Sukhoi and Mig embarked. Is Russia trying to keep Mig in business? I feel they should stay with the Sukhoi line.
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Mig
Hello guys
I understand the difference between the K version and other Fulcrums. I thought since MIG is trying push the Mig-35 that they might produce a navalized one that's all. Imagine me thinking MIG might even promote a product and ordered it for themselves.
Did anybody hear anything on the K models Russia was suppose deliver in June 08? I was hoping for MIG that they would be delivered on time or even early to sort of help India make their choice what a great chance to cut the line, lost.
Hello guys
I understand the difference between the K version and other Fulcrums. I thought since MIG is trying push the Mig-35 that they might produce a navalized one that's all. Imagine me thinking MIG might even promote a product and ordered it for themselves.
Hi nevidimka thanks for getting involved but that's one of the reasons why I asked if there was any new Mig-35 news. I haven't seen anything in months on or about the Mig-35, which is really a Mig-29M currently. I don' think Russia has a AESA radar in production yet at least released to the public? Just my opinion if there were a operational AESA radar wouldn't a Flanker model be made already since that's what there selling and its Russia's main front line fighter? The OLS is that little round device shown on the Mig-35 mock up right that marks targets? Is the company that makes that operational and is that device even being produced numbers? Isn't that something MIG and sub companies have to setup if they had a customer? It just seems like the whole Mig-35 project has stalled and was hoping somebody may have heard something new. I guess the funding just isn't there thanks everybody for chiming in.
Did anybody hear anything on the K models Russia was suppose deliver in June 08? I was hoping for MIG that they would be delivered on time or even early to sort of help India make their choice what a great chance to cut the line, lost.
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Zhuk-AE AESA
Hi Feanor
It would be great for MIG but is really in production? I would have thought more attention in the press would have been made for producing a ASEA radar? I do belive there's still a market for upgraded advance Fulcrums just a little smaller now. I guess we wait on those K models to see what MIG can do just wish more news or info was released.
Thanks
Hi Feanor
It would be great for MIG but is really in production? I would have thought more attention in the press would have been made for producing a ASEA radar? I do belive there's still a market for upgraded advance Fulcrums just a little smaller now. I guess we wait on those K models to see what MIG can do just wish more news or info was released.
Thanks