Launcher is still a wholy Lockheed-Martin-produced affair, chassis also US-made (FCS differs between operator nations). So not much of a chance i think.
Yes, I realize I should have qualified my question as pertaining to the M270 MLRS.
Not the systems, only the units. Sec...
Are we really worried about Orange attacking us? This scenario feels like Germany splitting into pieces. Is Orange looking for EU membership too? NATO?
A couple years down the line that won't matter anymore, since save for e.g. the Leos, pretty much most ground equipment needs replacement or upgrade of some kind anyway, and Orange would definitely choose different paths from Blue/Green there. Any war scenario wouldn't be immediate.
Why I would argue for some kind of BG's (or whatever they are called) is specifically the reason that even as country is small, there's just one brigade, which might well be split in wartime. Additionally, with smaller HQ's there's possibility of rotating them in international tasks (both peacekeeping and various exercises) to get more varied experience basis without breaking up teams. Additionally, BG's can train against each other.
LR SAM's are not immobile, see S-300 for example or Bloodhound for older one. While they would certainly need additional air defences they're not fixed targets like airbases or reserve air bases. If SAM is considered offensive weapon with 50km max range, then BUK possibly offers most bang for buck.
Cougar RESCO was my suggestion as latest US hardware was out of limits anyway. For special forces insertion and high survivability in wartime best possible avionics are needed. While Mi-17 is probably good helicopter by itself, I don't think it offers the penetration aids Cougar RESCO has. AS.725 would be
If the planes are needed for national defense scenarios, there's also possibility of acquiring civilian cargo planes for state owned airline and getting revenue for operating them during peacetime. Then Il-76's actually might not be very bad option, they carry much more weight than C-130's and can be operated globally for civilian revenue. Ideally those planes should be Il-78T's which can be operated as tankers as well.
Yes, and additionally these can also be used as powerful offensive weapons. In wartime Orange would have need of operating powerful mechanized manouver formations outside her home turf. The formations would be very dependent upon wireless communications, and thus vulnerable for EW. Additionally, EW assets also add to national intelligence picture and can be used to help air defense.
More like 140,000 km²; roughly 21 million people. Combined, we're 30% bigger than the GDR on both accounts.
Did we get any of the military/industrial complex in the split? What will happen with future Leo and Marder upgrades (e.g. Leo 2A5, 2A6; Marder 1A5)? Pzh 2000? SMArt 155? Eurofighter (down the road)? Joint upgrade programs with other countries?Yes, the basic outset is a German split. By starting in 1995, several years later, we at least have the political mess out of the way. I've been avoiding names for the same reason
Tons, for the whole Blue/Green alliance.
First off: Some projects originally acquired between 1989 and 1993 (roughly) have been put on the backburner. Among these are e.g. Wiesel (capacity and copyright went to Green 2), or Germany acquiring Patriots (now being introduced slowly by Orange).
Not particularly, in the South (ie in Blue/Green). Parts of Blue as well as two thirds of Green 2 were in the French Occupation Zone. "Green 2" in reality currently houses some 2,000 soldiers the German-French Brigade.
Yes, though not that many (say only one of the two fighter wings equipped, other runs with Sparrows).
Well, presumably we have good relations with Green1 and 2, so engines, and tracks are ok.Which pretty much rules out most european equipment for both sides. Diehl tracks, MTU engines, Renk transmissions, Rheinmetall & Mauser guns...
Now go and tell our tankers they have to give up their Leopards for glorified T-72's.
But - at least not yet - the Alliance probably does not operate horde of security and military advisors in Third World Dictatorships, and the cost of each military item is bound to skyrocket by every generation. Thus numbers are inevitably going down.
Closer wartime and peacetime organisations are, better they work. There's no money to buy extensive manouver forces. One has to remember that countries size of Green in our world strive to maintain one or two manouver brigades.
Your story may well be true, but on the other hand many air forces, navies, armies and border guards have years of excellent service by Cougar/Puma in most harshest conditions. I don't think there's a penetration version of Mi-17 available (ie. one with FLIR etc toys).
It was a suggestion to limit the budget burden.
It's not. Frankfurt is part of Orange, the basin to the north pointed out in ... map 4/5, post #29. The 900k px agglomeration is Mannheim/Ludwigshafen (500k combined) with adjacent cities. The other agglomeration is Karlsruhe and its neighbors.
For comparison: in Cold War terms, we'd have roughly 1.5 to 2 divisions in Blue at full mobilization (divisional territorial command, divisional field command roughly). Definitely not above 100,000 soldiers, although we could of course always build up pure light infantry without any mobility and with pretty much only the rifles in their hands (sidenote: that's not something we'll need to be concerned about btw - one of the depots stocks a quarter million small arms).
Size/relevance comparison. Sure, we don't need the same kinda forces there as the GDR, but having something mid-sized, able to carry logistics for our forces, would be nice. I agree that Il-76 are a bit over the top, and we don't need tankers at all so far.
Indeed, at the earliest. We'd need something to bridge until then, 15-17 years is a bit much. In my opinion, there should to be a fighter squadron operational by the time of the next 5-year-plan (ie around 2000), to give a frame of reference. By operational i mean that we have at least 12 aircraft delivered, flight-worthy, equipped, and pilots for these trained.