The Arjun Tank

niteshkjain

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Army Chief visits Yol, Pathankot Cantt

Excelsior Correspondent

JAMMU, June 11: Chief of Army Staff, General Deepak Kapoor visited Yol Cantonment in Himachal Pradesh today.

A defence spokesman said that the General also paid a visit to Pathankot garrison and Basohli cantonment. He addressed ‘Sainik Sammelan’ and informally interacted with the soldiers.

While speaking on the occasion, the general stressed for the operational readiness. He said that morale of the troops was found to be very high and the Indian Army matched the best in the world. The Army chief further said that troops were ready to counter threat from any agency, both internal and external that the country can possibly face.

General Kapoor was accompanied by his wife Mrs Kirti Kapoor, president Army Wives Welfare Association. Mrs Kapoor visited the vocational training training centre of the AWWA at Yol cantonment near Dharamshalla. She was briefed about various welfare measures for the army wives by Mrs Rupa Sharma, president AWWA Rising Star Corps.
 

niteshkjain

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Indian Army thread is closed so I am posting it here

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India plans to strengthen mountain warfare machinery
N C Bipindra in New Delhi
June 13, 2008 13:52 IST
In a move that could raise the hackles of neighbouring Pakistan and China, India will soon raise two new division-sized army formations to give more teeth to its mountain warfare machinery.

The Defence Ministry's proposal for raising of the two mountain divisions was approved recently by the Cabinet Committee on Security, ministry sources said.

The proposed mountain divisions will further enhance the tactical strength of the Indian army in its strategically important areas along the borders facing its traditional rivals -- Pakistan and China.

Each division - with a personnel strength of 10,000 to 13,000 troops - has a minimum of three brigades with a personnel strength of about 3,000 to 4,500 men each.

With options open to deploy on the mountainous terrains anywhere along the borders with the two neighbouring countries, the two new divisions could be raised in states from Jammu and Kashmir [Images] to Arunachal Pradesh, including Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, and Sikkim.

The Army already has 10 Divisions dedicated to mountain warfare and another infantry division earmarked for high altitude operations.

"The two new formations will be raised in a two-phased plan in about five years," the sources said.

Under the first phase, which will be implemented in two years, the two new divisions headquarters along with a brigade each, would come up, including the headquarters' support elements such as signals, provost, and intelligence units.

Implementation of the second phase would take another two to three years and during that period the complete division would be ready for operation.

At the end of the five years for raising the new formations, the two divisions would also have its air elements functional.

The air assets would include helicopter gunships and attack helicopters to provide the two divisions capabilities to carry out manoeuvres for countering the terrain impediments.

"The gunships and attack choppers will be necessary for providing the two formations fire power in a mountain terrain, as the army will not be in a position to deploy tanks and armoured vehicles," sources said.

The fire power in the third dimension (air) was required due to difficulties the army would face in using artillery guns also in an operation on a mountainous terrain.

"The air assets are an integral part of any mountain division to provide the fighting ground troops logistics and fire support," the sources said.
 

tatra

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kay_man said:
wow thats good news !!
45 kg pay load...wht all weapons weigh 45 kgs ??
the naag ATGM weighs 42 kgs...but can it be launched from UAV .
how much does a short range AAM weigh ?
The total usefull load is 45kg. IMHO the sensor package weight is included in that 45kg. There will be next to nothing left for any armaments (and combat isn't the role of this UAV anyway)
 

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By Prasun K. Sengupta

May (2008)

Unfazed and undeterred by the quality-control problems that have beset the series-production phase of the Arjun Mk1 main battle tank (MBT) at the assembly line of the ministry of defence-owned Heavy Vehicles Factory in Avadi, the DRDO’s Avadi-based Combat Vehicles Research & Development Establishment has embarked upon the development of the third-generation Arjun Mk2 MBT, whose first pre-production prototype is due for rollout by mid-2009, as per present estimates. As per the Army HQ’s General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQR), this MBT — to be manned by a three-man crew complement will have a redesigned rear hull section and turret, an enhanced powerpack, a turret-mounted autoloader coupled to a redesigned turret bustle, an improved 120mm rifled-bore main gun controlled by a new hunter-killer digital fire-control system (DFCS), and a novel environment control system being co-developed with Israel’s Kinetics Ltd that will provide NBC air filtration/over-pressure generation, as well as cooling for the vectronics (all built by the MoD-owned Bharat Electronics Ltd) and crew compartment. The redesign of the Arjun Mk2’s hull and turret sections, and R&D work on the autoloader is being undertaken with the help of France’s Nexter Systems.

The main gun, which currently has a barrel length of 44 calibres, will be increased to 52 calibres by the DRDO’s Pune-based Armaments R&D Establishment. The gyro-stabilised gun will be insulated with a thermal sleeve and will incorporate a muzzle reference system, as well as an automatic compressed air fume extraction system instead of the Arjun Mk1’s existing fume extraction cylinder. The turret, to have a rotation time of nine seconds through 360 degrees, is being redesigned around the ammunition autoloader, which will hold 22 rounds of up to five types of ready-to-fire rounds and will permit a rate of fire of 12 shots per minute. Another 20 rounds and their modular charges will be housed within a pressurised turret bustle whose temperature will be cryogenically controlled. The main gun, to have a combat range of 5.5km when firing FSAPDS kinetic-energy rounds, will have maximum elevation/depression angles of +20 degrees and -9 degrees. The Arjun Mk2 will share with its predecessor the same imported all-electric power traverse system (supplied by Germany’s ESW Extel Systems Wedel), which comprises the automatic elevating and traversing drives with semi-automatic back-up, direct gun-laying with electrical instruments control and manual control. The DFCS will include an independent commander’s panoramic sight incorporating a medium-range uncooled thermal imager, and the Sagem Défense Sécurité-built IRIS thermal camera of the gunner’s sight that can ‘see’ at around 5.5km, recognise a target at 3.1km and identify targets at 2.5km. The gunner’s sight will incorporate an ‘auto tracker’ — an optronic system based on image processing that will simultaneously track up to six moving targets. As the gunner’s sight is fixed on a target, a picture analysis will take place. When the target moves, the 120mm gun and the gunner’s sight will get aligned with the target and will move automatically while keeping the target in focus. This is particularly good in cross-country terrain when the target is moving and the MBT might go through bumps or twists or turns for manoeuvring, but the ‘auto tracker’ will not lose sight of the target. Presently, the Arjun Mk1 uses a ‘director mode’ for track initiation. On the Arjun Mk2, the top mirror of the gunner’s sight will be independently stabilised, and a digital ballistics computer will evaluate the elevation of both the top mirror and the main gun, as well as the angle of the turret. There will be a continuous feeding of these parameters into the ballistics computer, which in turn will give electronic instructions to the all-electric gun-control system. Hence, the crosshairs of the gunner’s sight will be right in the middle of the target even in a cross-country environment. If, momentarily the gun is misaligned, the firing circuit will remain closed and the gunner will not be able to fire. The DFCS will receive all required meteorological data from IRDAM SA of Switzerland’s Model 2156B sensor that will measure wind speed, wind direction, air temperature and atmospheric pressure. All-terrain navigational accuracy will be provided by a fibre optic gyro-based autonomous land navigation system (ALNS) that can store more than 100 routes and 500 waypoints. The communications element of the Arjun Mk2’s vectronics suite will include a digital universal control harness duplex communications system for ensuring voice and data communications between the MBT commander, gunner and driver, and an AQ-6411 intercom system meant for inter-communications between crews of the host MBT and also with other MBT crews through the STARS V50WFF LVM-271 radio. Also using this radio will be a BEL-built battlespace management system (BMS), which will allow all friendly MBTs to share a common operating picture and give senior armoured corps commanders a comprehensive view of the battle space. It will also free up frontline MBT commanders from routine reporting tasks. The BMS will be capable of displaying relevant digital moving map data (in 2-D) and plotting of own position, will offer zooming, panning, fit-all, overlay and refresh modes, will plot the positions of friend or foe as well as mines, bunkers etc using different symbols, will generate path profiles, will send situation reports and receive operational order updates. The BMS will also be linked to the MBT’s on-board health and usage monitoring system (HUMS), an achievement that will significantly reduce the MBT’s operational logistics demands.
 

niteshkjain

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Just look in to this a little bit old news

http://frontierindia.net/arjun-mk2-the-futuristic-mbt

Arjun Mk2 - The Futuristic MBT

Written on June 25, 2007 – 10:12 am | by FIDSNS |
Development is a continuous effort and Arjun Tank will be following the same in future. Since there are advantages of product improvements, rather than starting all over again, the Arjun MBT development will be periodic improvements as in the case of the worldwide MBT’s. Current design of the Arjun Tanks has been frozen to enable production. Arjun Tank in the next phase will see comparatively major changes. It could be called as Futuristic MBT.

As the worldwide MBT’s are getting network warfare friendly, Arjun MBT will have a logical improvement via a Battle Field Management System (BFMS). BFMS will provide information to tank commanders at different levels. This could network with helicopters or UAV’s too.

The BFMS will give the geographical location of the terrain, location of our own troops, location of enemy targets, illuminate targets, help navigation, display the health of tanks, status of ammunition holding in the tank, fuel stock etc.

As the imaging technology improves, Arjun MBT will feature an “Auto Tracker.” The auto tracker is a system based on image processing. As the gunner sight is fixed on a target, a picture analysis takes place. When the target moves, the Arjun Tank gun and the sight gets aligned with the target and move automatically keeping the target in focus. This is particularly good in cross country, when target is moving, Arjun Tank might go through bumps or twists or turns for maneuvering, but the auto tracker will not loose the sight of the target. In normal cases with T-55 and T-72, when the tanks try to negotiate an undulation or try a defensive move, the tank commander cupola is moving to acquire the target; the guns go off target. There is a crew disorientation that takes place in such conditions and the crew ends up pointing target at opposite direction. T-90S too has similar issues but is much better than the T-72 in this case. Another aspect is, the Arjun MBT turret is a heavy mass of approximately 16- 20 tons and gun mass is about approximately 2 tons. To stabilize the turret and gun is a difficult task. Currently Arjun Tank uses something called “director mode” .The top mirror of the gunner sight of Arjun Tank is independently stabilized. A computer evaluates the elevation of both top mirror and the gun as well as the angle of the turret. There is a continuous feeding of these parameters into the computer; the computer gives electronic instructions to the gun control system. Hence the Arjun Tank gunner sight is in the middle of the target even in the cross country environment. If momentarily the gun is misaligned, the firing circuit does not open and the gunner is not able to fire. Whether Arjun MBT is static, target is static or Arjun MBT is static, target is moving or Arjun MBT is moving, target is static or both Arjun MBT and target are moving; The Arjun Tank firing accuracy remains more or less the same, and achieves a very high level of accuracy.

Defensive aid like Shotra system for Arjun Tank is getting developed. An 81mm Anti-laser and Anti-thermal Screening Smoke Grenade is also going to be featured.

The Lahat missile’s laser designator module will be integrated into fire control computer.

There will not be any revolutionary physical changes on the Arjun MBT platform.
 

ambushb

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Watabot Manoeuvre??

If the mod to the Arjun MkII MBT is taking place as proposed, is there any embargo placed upon the DRDO for toeing the timeline? Arjun MkI, granted that it was the DRDO's first experiment with A Veh, apart from the Vijayanta Tk, took so much time just to be presented for user trials, that it was already outdated. Moreover, the Mod mentioned in the submissions above are sys that are currently highly evolved, yet most of them are'nt battle proven.
Let us be focussed on the fact that the Tank is an instrument or rather facilitator for Mvre warfare in the plains, desert or DCB scenario. Mvre as we are all aware is the act of positioning own firepower means at a space of own choosing to cause the en to be disbalaced either by destruction or by projection. Agreed that fire power and survivability are two imp qualities, what about the original key feature of mobility. Apart from the high profile, the power to weight ratio of the Arjun, has nothing to boast about, moreover , persisting to use an imported diesel engine would only end up in incr the already overburdened load on lgs backup. For eg., A simple overhaul of the Kraz veh held by the Indian Army is a herculean task due to atleast six known engine types with no common components.
The DRDO could however have a look at devp of a hyperbar engine or integrating a turbine with a lighter engine to give it much better performance and Pwr-wt ratio.
 

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Army to train officers for US-style war in space
New Delhi, June 15: Set to make forays in use of space applications, the Indian Army will take a leaf out of US forces' experience to train its officers in optimising the effective use of space-based resources to meet its operational requirements.

A week after India announced setting up of an integrated cell to co-ordinate all military operations based on space assets, the Army's Directorate of Perspective Planning (DoPP) will organise a training programme on Monday for officers to make them understand the tricks of the trade, Army sources said today.

To be inaugurated by Chief of Army Staff (CoAS) General Deepak Kapoor, the seminar would also look into the role of space-based applications in recent conflicts around the world.

"In particular, the use of space-based assets by the US forces in Afghanistan and Iraq would be debated. Army officers would learn the practices adopted by the US forces in utilising space applications to counter enemies in its battles in Iraq and Afghanistan," sources said.

The meet, to be organised in association with the Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS), would witness officers discussing and imbibing "space-based application used by militaries of the space-faring nations," sources said.

"It is imperative that Indian Army, being the largest user of space, exploits space-based resources optimally to meet its operational requirements," a note prepared by the DoPP to organise a day-long training for officers, said.

Bureau Report
 

niteshkjain

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Finally some good news for beleaguered tank:)

http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=3


The Arjun battle tank acquires a growing fan club
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi June 16, 2008, 0:45 IST


India's own Arjun tank is finally proving its worth. Despite continuing criticism from an army establishment that judges the Arjun far more strictly than foreign purchases like the T-90, the Arjun is successfully completing a gruelling 5,000-kilometre trial in the Rajasthan desert.

During six months of trials, the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO), along with tank crews from the army's 43 Armoured Regiment, have proved not just the Arjun's endurance, but also the ability of its computer-controlled gun to consistently blow away suitcase-sized targets placed more than a kilometre away.

The army's Directorate General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF), which must eventually okay the tank, is not impressed but key decision-makers are rallying behind the Arjun.

The head of the Pune-based Southern Command, Lieutenant General N Thamburaj, strongly backs the Arjun. On a visit to the Mahajan Field Firing Ranges in Rajasthan to watch his troops exercising, Lt Gen Thamburaj noticed the Arjun firing nearby.

After walking across, he was invited by the DRDO team to drive and fire the tank. Half an hour later, the general was an Arjun backer; two holes in the target he aimed at testified that a soldier without previous experience operating tanks could get into the Arjun and use it effectively.


Business Standard has evidence of many more such incidents. On June 29, 2006, the commander of the elite 31 Armoured Division, Major General BS Grewal, visited the Mahajan Ranges along with a colleague, Major General Shiv Jaswal. Both drove and fired the Arjun for the first time that day; the two rounds that each fired punched holes through targets almost two kilometres away (see picture).

That same month, 43 Armoured Regiment, which is the first army tank unit equipped with the Arjun, pronounced itself delighted with the Arjun's firing performance. After firing trials in summer 2006, 43 Armoured Regiment endorsed: "The accuracy and consistency of the Arjun have been proved beyond doubt."

But the establishment was quick to strike back. Barely three months after that report, the commanding officer of 43 Armoured Regiment, Colonel D Thakur, was confronted by the then Director General of Mechanised Forces, Lt Gen DS Shekhawat. Eyewitnesses describe how he was upbraided for "not conducting the trials properly". But in a career-threatening display of professional integrity, Colonel Thakur's brigade commander, Brigadier Chandra Mukesh, intervened to insist that the trials had been conducted correctly.

In a series of interviews with the army, including the present Director General of Mechanised Forces, Lt Gen D Bhardwaj, and with the MoD top brass, Business Standard has learned that opposition to the Arjun remains deeply entrenched. This despite the soldiers of 43 Armoured Regiment declaring that if it came to war, they would like to be in an Arjun.

Minister of State for Defence Production, Rao Inderjeet Singh recounts: "I've spoken, off the record, to officers who have gone through the trials. Even the crews (from 43 Armoured Regiment)… who have been testing the tank… I forced them to choose between the Russian tanks and the Arjun.

I said, you've driven this tank and you've driven that tank (the T-90). Now mark them out of ten, which tank is better? And I've found that the Arjun tank was given more numbers than the T-90 tank."

With new confidence, the Arjun's developer, the Central Vehicles R&D Establishment (CVRDE), is arguing strongly for "comparative trials", in which the Arjun would be pitted head-to-head, in identical conditions, with the army's T-90 and T-72 tanks. But the DGMF continues to resist any such face-off.
 

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India needs space command to counter China: Army

NEW DELHI, JUN 16 (PTI)
Citing China's rapid militarisation of space, Army chief Deepak Kapoor on Monday raised the pitch for establishing the much-delayed tri-services space command for persistent surveillance and quick response to any threat to India's assets in orbit.

Kapoor's remarks came in the wake of India's defence establishment, shaken up after China demonstrated its capabilities to shoot down satellites in January last year, initiating counter measures to ward off the anti-satellite (ASAT) threats.

Only last fortnight, Defence Minister A K Antony had announced the setting up of an integrated space cell at the Integrated Defence Staff headquarters to act as a single window for military use and security of space resources, apart from performing the role of interface among army, navy and air force, besides Department of Space and Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).

"Chinese space programme is expanding at an exponentially rapid pace in both offensive and defensive content. There is an imperative requirement to develop joint structures in the Indian armed forces for synergising employment of space assets," Kapoor said, inaugurating a day-long training for army officers on 'space applications for military use' here.
 

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Arjun versus T-90: Army avoiding trials
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi June 17, 2008, 0:20 IST
India's Arjun tank is fighting its first battle even before it enters service with the army. The Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) and key Ministry of Defence (MoD) officials, confident that the Arjun is superior to the army's Russian T-72 and T-90 tanks, are demanding "comparative trials", where the Arjun, the T-72 and the T-90 are put through endurance and firing trials in identical conditions.


But the army — particularly the nodal Directorate General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF) — is shying away. Earlier, the DGMF declared that the T-72 and T-90 were proven tanks, which needed no further trials.

Now, with the MoD adding its voice to the demand for comparative trials, the DGMF has told Business Standard that they must be put off until the army gets a full squadron of Arjun tanks (14 tanks) and absorbs the expertise to use them.

DRDO sources say the army is stonewalling on accepting the Arjun by demanding levels of performance that neither of its Russian tanks can deliver. Meanwhile, more T-90s are being imported from Russia on the plea that the army is falling short of tanks.

The DRDO's fears are grounded in experience. On July 28, 2005, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee informed Parliament, "The Arjun tank is superior to (the) T-90 tank due to its high power to weight ratio, superior fire on the move capability during day and night and excellent ride comfort. MBT Arjun has gone through all the tests and it is meeting the (requirements) of the Army."

But a year later, in December 2007, India bought 347 more T-90s for Rs 4,900 crores. That despite the MoD's admission in Parliament that the 310 T-90s purchased earlier had problems with their Invar missile systems, and the thermal imagers that are crucial for night fighting.

A comparative trial, says the DRDO, will conclusively establish that the Arjun is a better tank than the T-90. That will at least put a stop to the import of more T-90s.

But the DGMF is putting off such a trial. The DG of Mechanised Forces, Lt Gen D Bhardwaj, told Business Standard, "The Arjun is based on a very stringent GSQR and is in a class by itself. User trials are conducted based on this GSQR. Nevertheless, comparative trials will be conducted once a squadron worth of tanks (i.e. 14 Arjun tanks) is inducted in the army."

This new insistence on 14 tanks will delay the trials at least till December 8. In 2005, the army had agreed to comparative trials, with five Arjun tanks pitted against five T-72s and an equal number of T-90s.

The DGMF had even written the trial directive, spelling out how trials would be conducted. Those trials were postponed as the Arjun was not ready to operate in high summer temperatures. Now, the Arjun is ready but the army is not.

Top MoD officials are no longer buying the DGMF's argument that the Arjun is a dud. The MoD wants comparative trials too. Minister of State for Defence Production, Rao Inderjit Singh, told Business Standard, "The proof of the pudding will be in comparing the Arjun tank with the T-90 tank, as imported. The T-90 is supposed to be a frontline tank; let it have it out with the Arjun. Let them slug it out in the desert … and see which comes off best."

Besides demanding more Arjun tanks in the trials, the DGMF is also proposing to conduct the trials differently. Comparative trials are normally a straightforward test of equipment capability, with all the tanks driving through the same course and firing at similar targets to determine which of them does better.

But the DGMF now plans to add a tactical - and therefore subjective - dimension. The Arjun, the T-72 and the T-90 squadrons will be given operational tasks, e.g. capturing a hill some 150 kilometres away.

The DRDO is crying foul. Major General HM Singh, who spearheaded the Arjun's development for the last 28 years until he retired a fortnight ago, points out that inserting tactics into the trials would give the army a way of putting down the Arjun.

In a tactical exercise the tactical skills of the crew - something that is irrelevant in evaluating a tank - can determine the outcome of the trials. Gen HM Singh asks, "What is it that cannot be determined with five tanks, but can be with fourteen?"
 

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Ajai Shukla: Finding the right bullies
BROADSWORD
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi June 17, 2008, 4:47 IST
The unseemly squabbling between the army and the DRDO over the Arjun tank invites a wider debate on how India must shape its mechanised forces. This vital branch of any military launches attacks into an enemy country, its tanks, armoured carriers and airmobile forces sweeping into the opponent's heartland, dislocating his planning and breaking his will to fight. If it came to war with Pakistan, India's three "strike corps", as these mechanised formations are termed, would not dally at the border. Their objective would be the towns and cities along the Indus.


As Lt. Gen. BM Kapur (Retired), one of India's more flamboyant strike corps commanders, loved to declare, "My corps has no tasks on the territory of India."

The key player in these strike operations is the main battle tank — the MBT in military parlance — which, for India, is the Russian T-72 and T-90 tank. The "bully of the battlefield", as the MBT has been called, must be a multi-faceted fellow. It must be highly mobile on roads and cross-country; it must have a capable, computer-enhanced gun to dominate the battlefield; it must be strongly armoured to protect its crew; and it must be self-contained, carrying ammunition and fuel for days of battle deep inside enemy territory.

In the late 20th century India could get by with its Russian fleet. Those tanks were cheap, rugged, effective, and faced simpler threats. Pakistan's tank fleet was outdated, its air force was not getting additional F-16s from the US and JF-17s from China, and the Dragon himself was a relatively benign blip on the threat radar.

But now India's tank fleet must cater for a wider range of threats than the Pakistan border, where 58 out of the army's 59 tank regiments are currently deployed. The entire northeast of the country — an 11,000-kilometre border with China, Bangladesh and Myanmar is allotted just one regiment of 45 tanks.

Though the Russian T-72s and T-90s are too heavy for the riverine and mountainous northeast, the army has dragged its feet for decades in identifying and procuring a lighter tank. China is flexing its muscles over the so-called Finger Area in North Sikkim, an ideal deployment area for a detachment of Indian light tanks. But the long-standing proposal for acquiring a brigade (three regiments) of light tanks for northeast India is still in the seminar rooms of the army; it has not yet been sent on to the Ministry of Defence (MoD).

When asked why, the army's Director General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF), Lt Gen D Bhardwaj, responded with a terse written statement: "The current fleet of tanks in Mech(anised) Forces (sic) is well equipped to execute operations efficiently in all types of terrain i.e. deserts, canal and riverine terrain. We are studying the proposal for a lighter weight tank for other terrains, specifically in the NE (northeast). This of course is a futuristic requirement."

Light tanks are needed also for India's amphibious forces, which protect island territories like the Andaman and the Lakshadweep archipelagos and offshore assets like Bombay High. The Hyderabad-based 54 Infantry Division is earmarked for amphibious tasks; the Indian Navy has built landing ships for tanks; it has bought the INS Jalashwa (formerly the USS Trenton) from the United States. But it hasn't bought the light tanks that will be launched from these ships — an essential component of any amphibious force.

Light tanks are required also for airmobile operations. India has one of the world's very few militaries with strategic airlift capability, its giant IL-76 aircraft able to drop a brigade of paratroopers onto objectives far from India. In November 1988, when Tamil mercenaries invaded the Maldives, two Indian battalions were dropped from IL-76 aircraft to restore peace. They did what was asked but if a parachute force were to encounter serious fighting, they would need tank backup that isn't there today. The IL-76 can just about carry one Russian MBT, but it cannot para-drop it. A light tank, which could be air-transported and para-dropped, is a critical need.

A light tank is also needed against the growing threat of urban terrorism. Currently, India's military, police and paramilitary forces use a variety of improvised vehicles, with armour-plates welded on, when they need fire support for operations in towns or cities. Lives would be saved by a light tank, which can drive and manoeuvre in twisty streets and elevate its gun to fire at terrorists holed up in higher floors. A cleft turret fitted onto a light tank would give India this capability.

The military's inertia on the light tank is matched by its foot-dragging over the heavy Arjun MBT. Compared to the 42-ton T-72 and the 46-ton T-90, the muscular 58-ton Arjun is just the right bully for a battlefield where tank killing is an increasingly popular activity. Its Kanchan armour (named after Kanchanbagh, Hyderabad, where it was designed) adds weight; but provides reassuring protection against enemy aircraft, artillery, attack helicopters, tanks, missile carriers and shoulder-fired rocket launchers, all of which are seeking to make their day by destroying a tank.

While the weight of the Arjun would be a liability in the canal-crossed plains of Punjab, it would be transformed into an asset in the open deserts of southern Rajasthan, where one of India's strike corps invariably operates. Equipping that formation with the Arjun would dramatically increase its punch. Such a decision would also provide the tank's designers with a clear idea of what strengths they must build into future variations of the Arjun.
 

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SIACHEN
Despite Pak protest, Army plans civilian trek to Siachen

N C BIPINDRA NEW DELHI, JUN 17 (PTI)
Notwithstanding Pakistan's vociferous protests, Indian Army will organise a civilian mountaineering and trekking expedition to the forbidding Siachen Glacier for the second year in a row in October-November this year.

Even before the planned Siachen trekking kicks off, the Indian Army will take out its own expedition to the glacial heights of Khatling on the Indo-Tibetan border in Uttarakhand later this month.

"The Siachen trekking expedition this year is in its planning stage and we are determined to take civilian mountaineers to the Glacier this year. Khatling expedition by the Army's 15 Mechanised Infantry Regiment will take place from June 25 to July 7," an Army headquarter source told PTI.

Both the expeditions are meant to show to the international audience that Indian troops hold both the Siachen and Khatling glacial heights and neither Pakistan nor China were anywhere near the two Glaciers.

Amidst reports of frequent intrusions by China's Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) into the Indian territory along the Indo-Tibetan border, the Khatling expedition would leave imprints of the Army team's visit to the Glacier.

"The imprints could be anything from an Indian-made shoe or a copy of an Indian newspaper adequately sealed in a plastic folder to ensure it does not get wet or damaged in the snowy terrain. This would enable India to assert Khatling Glacier is its territory and counter any future threat of a Chinese claim," a source said.

The civilian Siachen expedition last September had run into a controversy after Pakistan lodged a strong protest, calling it "incongruous" to ongoing peace efforts between the two countries.

Though the Army halted the trip immediately after the protest, it went ahead with the trekking expedition after a go-ahead was given by the UPA government.

Despite protests from Pakistan, India maintains that it does not need Pakistan's approval to send trekkers to the 78 km-long Siachen, which is essentially an Indian territory.

The Khatling expedition team will comprise two officers and an equal number of Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs), apart from eight Other Ranks (ORs), all volunteers from the Regiment.

Inducted 10 days prior to the expedition, the team would also have an eight-member support team comprising a JCO and seven ORs.

The volunteers would undertake graduated acclimatisation and endurance exercises in coordination with 2 Rajput Regiment, apart from liaising with the Nehru Institute of Mountaineering at Uttarkasi for experience on trekking and survival skills in high altitude.

The Khatling expedition would involve a 12-day trekking from Malla to Gaurikund, covering a distance of 165 km of icy heights, ultimately touching the Glacier at 4717m altitude.

The Khatling team would also send in Daily Situation Reports to the Army headquarters all along its trek to the Glacier.

Beginning the ascent from Sila at 2085m altitude, the Army team would go up the Glacier, touching Kush Kalyani, Kyarki, Parital, Sahasra Tal, Kalyani, Gowki and reach Khatling Glacier on the eighth day. It would move to Mashar Tal, Vasuki Tal, Kedarnath and Gaurikhund in the second leg of its trek, sources said.
 

suryaaa

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Guys whats happening with arjun , now when it is ready DGMF is not accepting it , despite the pressure from MoD and drdo.Now they dont want the comparetive trials between T-90 and arjun.Its shows that there is a serious involvement of a third party, dont you guys think so??:confused::unknown


A humble request instead of posting those news from BR ,have some discussion:unknown
 

Chrom

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Guys whats happening with arjun , now when it is ready DGMF is not accepting it , despite the pressure from MoD and drdo.Now they dont want the comparetive trials between T-90 and arjun.Its shows that there is a serious involvement of a third party, dont you guys think so??:confused::unknown


A humble request instead of posting those news from BR ,have some discussion:unknown
We'll see. When last time DRDO got what they want - it ended up not so pretty for Arjun. Also, with all around talks about Arjun-2 in 2009 or 2010 - is it wise to buy Arjun-1 right now?
 

kams

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We'll see. When last time DRDO got what they want - it ended up not so pretty for Arjun. Also, with all around talks about Arjun-2 in 2009 or 2010 - is it wise to buy Arjun-1 right now?

Oh don't go by what Sengupta has written. Arjun MKII is nothing like what he has written. The hull remains same, incorporates improvements in FCS, TI, Self protection etc..
 

suryaaa

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Arjun-2 give me a break , what is going on ,they didnt even come to terms with arjun-1 and no they r waiting for arjun-2,this is crazy.:lul

Also what abt the hybrid tank-ex (arjun armour + t72 chaisis)well they will have to go through tank-ex one point or other dont u think so.
 
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