Build The Kosovo Army

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KevinB

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Congratulations, you have been selected to build the new military of the Republic of Kosovo.

The new nation has been partially recognized by the world community and much of the world is not in a rush to welcome it into the community of nations.

To the north and east, you have Serbia which claims Kosovo as its own. With a somewhat powerful army, decent air force, and Russian backing. The Serbs have moved to rapidly modernize its armed forces and the Russians may be interested in helping to speed the process up. The Serbs will also in the event of war be able to tap into mercenaries and volunteers from all over the Slavic world and will most likely have substantial numbers of paramilitaries fighting along side the regular military.

To the northwest you have Montenegro which has had decent ties in the past with Kosovo and is mostly stable. The possible threat would be preventing incursions by Albanian nationalists which may destabilize the Montenegrin government. The Montenegrin military plans to have no more than 2500 men under arms with little to no heavy equipment and no major combat air force.

To the south and west is Albania which has not been entirely stable in the past, however things have improved. The Albanians have about 16,000 men under arms and is undergoing the process of modernizing its military with no major air capabilities.

Finally to the south and east is the Republic of Macedonia. Albanian nationalists based in Kosovo frequently violate Macedonia's sovereignty and there has been trouble in the past. Macedonia keeps around 13,000 men under arms and has some heavy equipment such as T-72 tanks. Macedonia also has 10 Mi-24 "Hind" attack helicopters in its arsenal.

In addition, there are rival Serb and Albanian militias to contend with in Kosovo itself.

You must build a force that can do the following:

1) Replace KFOR and the European Union forces in the country currently.

2) Prevent civil strife and a possible civil war.

3) Defend the sovereignty of the new nation in a very rough neighborhood.

4) Keep Albanian radicals from launching incursions on your neighbors in an effort to build a "Greater Albania".

Toward these goals, you have The remnants of the Kosovo Protection Corps which number a little over 5,000 men. However, most are ex-Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) members with experience against the Yugoslav Army.

Armaments on hand are various old Chinese made Type 56 assault rifles (AK-47 clones), Yugoslav M70 assault rifles, Albanian and Yugoslav SKS clones, some G3s and FN FALs smuggled from Croatia, a few M-16s and G-36s from various sources, old Yugoslav Mausers and Mosin-Nagant bolt-action rifles, a couple of Barrett .50 sniper rifles, and even some WWII era MP-40 and Ppsh-41 submachine guns.

You have been allocated 5 years and the first year's budget is 111,350,000 Euros which is 5% of GDP. The GDP is expected to increase by 4% annually and the Kosovo Parliament wants to increase defense spending to 6% of GDP next year and for the remaining years.

As for sources of weapons:

US, Britain, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Finland, and France will sell small arms and other equipment that's not the most advanced in their arsenals. These nations will also give away old uniforms and personal gear.

Poland is offering small arms and locally produced weapons and they are open to deals.

Albania is offering to give surplus small arms, however these are dated Chinese Type-56 assault rifles and Korean War era machine guns.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia will sell anything they can offer, however be prepared to pay full market prices.

Iran is also offering anything it can export, however buying from Iran will hurt ties with the West.

Russia, China, South Africa, Spain, and Serbia will not sell to you at all.

Other countries may be willing to sell weapons through the black market.

Finally, the United States, Britain, Germany, and/or France have offered to train the new military.
 

Kosovo=Serbia

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In addition, there are rival Serb and Albanian militias to contend with in Kosovo itself.
Not true. There are absolutely nothing that looks like Serb militia in Kosovo.
There is only Albanians KLA, or KPA, or whatever, which contains same people.
I really dont know where you find anything about Serb militia in Kosovo. Can you give me any clue.
 

nevidimka

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1st of all the independence of Kosovo is ilegal as it gets. It is very dissapointing to see that the west could flaunt International Laws by backing a Kosovo state, which has no Legal binding.
 

eliaslar

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Some members of the EU still hessitate to recognise Kossovo, Spain hasn't recognised it and from what i am reading it won't recognise it at least now, Greece hasn't recognised it and she won't do so.
It is good for Kosovo to have army, but first it has to maintain it's stability. Also is it logical for a country with such a bad economy to give 5% of it's GDP to armed forces? isn't it a lot of money for their economy?
 

Chrom

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1st of all the independence of Kosovo is ilegal as it gets. It is very dissapointing to see that the west could flaunt International Laws by backing a Kosovo state, which has no Legal binding.
There is no international "law" on that matter. This word is usually used in propaganda in 90% cases. Unlike relations between humans in civilized countries, which are based largely on law, relations between countries based mostly on power - military, economical, political. Therefore robbing, killing, blackmailing, torturing, etc between countries are not punishable and even blindly prised by most peoples, justified by high words like "patriotic", "i kill for good of my country", "we bomb terrorists/heretics/dictators/human rights/becouse oil prices too high", etc.

Simply put, we dont need any law to bomb anyone. All we need is enough nukes or very good friend with enough nukes ;)
 

Kosovo=Serbia

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What kind of weapon USA delivered to Albanians in Kosovo (rifles, ammunition, mortars, rpgs, or maybe some vehicles or .............) ?
I cant find proper info....

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Chrom

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Back to topic. Hezbollah style military with modern ATGM's, portable SAM's, light weapons and equipment. Concentrated on infantry, non-mechanized capabilities. Once that level is ensured, get protection from air intrusion. Not to fight modern airforces of course. Something like Mig-21/29 and S-75/125 would be enough. Then add some ground force multipliers which can help in "peacekeeping" - i.e. 2nd rate tanks and IFVs, cheap artillery.

I dont think there is much sense going further than that - Serbia is small country, and these "bigger" assets would be almost useless in any full-scale war with neighborhoods / NATO.
 

s3kiz

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Congratulations, you have been selected to build the new military of the Republic of Kosovo.
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You have been allocated 5 years and the first year's budget is 111,350,000 Euros which is 5% of GDP. The GDP is expected to increase by 4% annually and the Kosovo Parliament wants to increase defense spending to 6% of GDP next year and for the remaining years.
I dont want to "ruin" this scenario, but i find it hard to envisage the success of micro-nations like Kosovo in a troublesome and agressive geography like the Balkans.

I think joining up with Albania proper will be the best options for the Albanian population of Kosovo and building up Albania and its defence forces.

But nevertheless going along with KevinB's scenario, why not donate Kosovo all the retired/soon-to-be-retired M48s from Turkiye, old F4s, soon to be retired G3s and Nato training by Turkish military for the Kosovo forces.

:)

Cheers.
 

eliaslar

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i agree with s3kiz, this new state won't be so lucky in the Balkans. But i would like to add something maybe the best for this new state will be to be re-divided, to the Serbian and the Albanian sectors and both to join their motherlands. So that might make everyone happier.
But about the donation scenario, that would be nice for Kosovo to have such weapons but with 11,350,000 Euros budget it will never have the opportunity to use them because it won't be able to support them at first place, especially because all those old weapon systems become even more expensive to support by the time.
 

Atilla [TR]

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i agree with s3kiz, this new state won't be so lucky in the Balkans. But i would like to add something maybe the best for this new state will be to be re-divided, to the Serbian and the Albanian sectors and both to join their motherlands. So that might make everyone happier.
But about the donation scenario, that would be nice for Kosovo to have such weapons but with 11,350,000 Euros budget it will never have the opportunity to use them because it won't be able to support them at first place, especially because all those old weapon systems become even more expensive to support by the time.
I think what S3kiz meant is to give them away for free (maybe I might be wrong) but I strongly doubt Turkey will give so many things away for free when many Turkic states to the east need them desperately Kyrgyzstan only has like 1970's aircraft and only a few can actually fly and they got a huge powerful neighbor to the east, whose army is far greater.
 

Kosovo=Serbia

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Kosovo=Serbia

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Back to topic. Hezbollah style military with modern ATGM's, portable SAM's, light weapons and equipment. Concentrated on infantry, non-mechanized capabilities. Once that level is ensured, get protection from air intrusion. Not to fight modern airforces of course. Something like Mig-21/29 and S-75/125 would be enough. Then add some ground force multipliers which can help in "peacekeeping" - i.e. 2nd rate tanks and IFVs, cheap artillery.

I dont think there is much sense going further than that - Serbia is small country, and these "bigger" assets would be almost useless in any full-scale war with neighborhoods / NATO.
Well, interesting Chrom, but still when we can afford bigger assets why not to
have them......:)
 
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