Thanks for the info - do you know what the added weight will be with the new armor package.
South Korea launches Amphibious Tank XK2
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DoC_FouALieR
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I duno the exact figures, but the armor evolution between the T 9 version and the type 21 must add a weight between 0,5 and 1 metric ton, there is also an additionnal weight due to the air conditionner.
The AZUR urban combat kit, which comprise add-on side and rear armor, remote controlled machinegun, and large rear box for carrying infantry extra supplies must add a weight of about 2,5 ton.
The AZUR urban combat kit, which comprise add-on side and rear armor, remote controlled machinegun, and large rear box for carrying infantry extra supplies must add a weight of about 2,5 ton.
Waylander, I do not believe that IMI were involved with the development of Trophy as this is largely a Rafael design. IMI are developing their own Iron Fist APS which, though less mature, is thought to be favoured by some members of the Israeli military owing to the short-comings you mentioned regarding Trophy, especially the problems regarding re-loading.
I would have thought that the Bundeswehr would install MUSS on their Leopards, but I haven't seen any indication of when this might be. British Challengers are likely to eventually receive the Akers Krutbruk / IBD Deisenroth Advanced Armour Concept hard-kill system which is being developed for the SEP but with which the British Government has a tech-sharing agreement via BAE. Likely to be fitted to the FRES vehicle then other British Army platforms.
The XK2 features a version of the Russian Arena E, does it not?
I would have thought that the Bundeswehr would install MUSS on their Leopards, but I haven't seen any indication of when this might be. British Challengers are likely to eventually receive the Akers Krutbruk / IBD Deisenroth Advanced Armour Concept hard-kill system which is being developed for the SEP but with which the British Government has a tech-sharing agreement via BAE. Likely to be fitted to the FRES vehicle then other British Army platforms.
The XK2 features a version of the Russian Arena E, does it not?
I also don't know of any plans to install MUSS on any other vehicle than the Puma.
You may be right with IMI. This is just what I have read.
AMAP-ADS sounds interesting. I just got to hear from it some days ago for the first time and wasn't even aware of its existence before.
But I do not even know what kind of countermeasures are used for it.
The IBD-Deisenroth site is not very informative and the video there is so basic that it looks like it is using lasers...
Interesting to see that they envision to go into serial poduction at least in 2008 so making it a very mature system and so it maybe able to seize a countable chunk of the european ADS market.
Diehl should better be fast with their AWiSS system if they don't want to fall behind.
You may be right with IMI. This is just what I have read.
AMAP-ADS sounds interesting. I just got to hear from it some days ago for the first time and wasn't even aware of its existence before.
But I do not even know what kind of countermeasures are used for it.
The IBD-Deisenroth site is not very informative and the video there is so basic that it looks like it is using lasers...
Interesting to see that they envision to go into serial poduction at least in 2008 so making it a very mature system and so it maybe able to seize a countable chunk of the european ADS market.
Diehl should better be fast with their AWiSS system if they don't want to fall behind.
Looks like it will be a buyer's market in the next 5-10 years. Come to think of it, I don't know if MUSS can be fitted on to a platform other than Puma, though since it's modular I suppose it's perfectly possible.
As regards the IBD system:
IBD Deisenroth claim the system adds about EUR250,000 (US$302,000) to the cost and only 0.5 tonne to the weight of an armoured vehicle. The system is composed of a number of autonomous modules, each incorporating an unspecified sensor and directed kill mechanism. The sensor is designed to detect incoming guided weapons, shoulder-launched rockets, or tank-fired kinetic-energy rounds at short range. It then triggers the kill mechanism, which is apparently able both to detonate chemical-energy warheads and shred kinetic-energy penetrators, whose residual effects can then be resisted by the vehicle's baseline ballistic armour.
From Jane's
As regards the IBD system:
IBD Deisenroth claim the system adds about EUR250,000 (US$302,000) to the cost and only 0.5 tonne to the weight of an armoured vehicle. The system is composed of a number of autonomous modules, each incorporating an unspecified sensor and directed kill mechanism. The sensor is designed to detect incoming guided weapons, shoulder-launched rockets, or tank-fired kinetic-energy rounds at short range. It then triggers the kill mechanism, which is apparently able both to detonate chemical-energy warheads and shred kinetic-energy penetrators, whose residual effects can then be resisted by the vehicle's baseline ballistic armour.
From Jane's
Ok, so we just have to wait for additional infos about the specs of AMAP-ADS.
Thanks for your info.
You are defenitely right with the buyers market.
The Lebanon conflict seems to have given the final push to the industry and armed forces for a faster development of ADSs.
Thanks for your info.
You are defenitely right with the buyers market.
The Lebanon conflict seems to have given the final push to the industry and armed forces for a faster development of ADSs.
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IMI claim the same capabilites for their Iron Fist. According to diagrams I've seen, it fires what they refer to as a mortar round which detonates along-side the incoming warhead causing the warhead to separate from the propellant or deflecting the KE projectile. According to IMI, in test the M60 and M113 tst vehicles suffere virtually no damage.
I've not seen the Arena-E as mounted on the XK2, but on the BMP-3/4 it looks like a series of mess tins mounted aroud the turret rim. When an inbound projectile is detected one of this is launched on an intercept course and then detontates, apparently aiming at complete destruction of the warhead and propellant section.
IMI claim the same capabilites for their Iron Fist. According to diagrams I've seen, it fires what they refer to as a mortar round which detonates along-side the incoming warhead causing the warhead to separate from the propellant or deflecting the KE projectile. According to IMI, in test the M60 and M113 tst vehicles suffere virtually no damage.
I've not seen the Arena-E as mounted on the XK2, but on the BMP-3/4 it looks like a series of mess tins mounted aroud the turret rim. When an inbound projectile is detected one of this is launched on an intercept course and then detontates, apparently aiming at complete destruction of the warhead and propellant section.
I am always sceptical when it comes to deflected KEs causing nearly no damage.
Even when a modern KE has a broken nose or doesn't hit its target in the perfect angle it defenitely has enough power to rip through a M60 not to talk of the mighty Gavin aka M113.
Even when a modern KE has a broken nose or doesn't hit its target in the perfect angle it defenitely has enough power to rip through a M60 not to talk of the mighty Gavin aka M113.
There is nothing inheritly impossible in that. The question however will be reliabilty and true torgue which is even more important than pure HP.
I'm not suggesting it's impossible, I was merely asking if anyone knew whether the Koreans are building a wholly indigenous unit or whether it will be modelled on an imported power plant.
Reliability is obviously important but since torque is power x rpm the hp of the unit will have some bearing
Reliability is obviously important but since torque is power x rpm the hp of the unit will have some bearing
It will be either the Euro engine or something based along the same lines.I'm not suggesting it's impossible, I was merely asking if anyone knew whether the Koreans are building a wholly indigenous unit or whether it will be modelled on an imported power plant.
Reliability is obviously important but since torque is power x rpm the hp of the unit will have some bearing
Thanks for the information.
sashikanth
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good 4 south korea
Yeah, but XK2 is the only one that can operate under 13.5 feet of water.
I'm pretty sure the XK2 can dive deeper then the Leo 2