Exactly. The original Swedish version was intended to function mainly as an airborne sensor within Swedens integrated air defence system, hence the limited onboard processing power & the lack of onboard operators - though they can carry a couple of operators if necessary. The Brazilian version has more onboard processing, several mission consoles, & several operators, as do those sold to Greece & Pakistan.actually the Erieye can have dedicated onboard processing done, just because the Swedish version (Argos) don't have it doesn't mean it can't be done
Even if the Phalcon was cheaper and better, RMAF would still not consider it again due to political considerations because it is made by Israel. The coices would be limited to Erieye, Hawkeye 2000, Wedgetail AEW (or a similar system mounted on a cheaper aiframe).I was just reading about the capabilities of the phalcon compard to the Erieye. It seems like the erieye just dont cut it. It even needs to send whatever data it receives to the ground basd controller for processing as there isnt dedicated on board processing like the phalcon.
I think its a very bad decision if the MAF goes for the Erieye. Plus the Phalcon was more capabilities like SAR combined in 1 aircraft.
I think gradually it will. If i m not mistaken, half of the MKM will station in east Malaysia.Even if the Phalcon was cheaper and better, RMAF would still not consider it again due to political considerations because it is made by Israel. The coices would be limited to Erieye, Hawkeye 2000, Wedgetail AEW (or a similar system mounted on a cheaper aiframe).
Given diverse geographical layout of the country RMAF will need a system that can function independently as it may have to deploy in both east and west sectors. From what I know east Malaysia does not have an extensive air defence ground envinronment that the west has (has this changed??).
Paskal, thanks. I looked it up and looks like they bought the THALES DAMOCLES pod which is currently in use with French Navy/ Air ForceIts from french that comes also with the THALES system that the Su-30 mkm is equipped with.The malaysians didnt used the israelis ones due to certain political reason.:
What I read before on some Indian Air Forece related literature mention 1000 hours MTBO and 3000 hrs expected life span for the AL-31F engines but lower hour numbers on the titanium thrust vector modules (probably 500). However I cant remember the exact site now.I heard the thrust vectoring AL-31F used in the MKM and MKI have a very low MTBO, around 250 hours i believe. is it true?
I think they are worry about Spratly Islands.Y station in the east? are they expecting philipines with its limited n dated aviation to attack malaysa? Ohhh wait.. its to be closer to some1 else...Australia!!
Looks like the plane is really an answer to Howards preemptive strike comments.
Anyways I hope MAF buys another squadron n station them in West as well as replace those MIGS!!!!
A rumor, given a simple logic, why would Indian show their weakness?I heard the thrust vectoring AL-31F used in the MKM and MKI have a very low MTBO, around 250 hours i believe. is it true?
Where did you hear this from? There is no major airbase in the east yet and RMAF would not park the MKM under a typical aircraft hanger. However there is a plan to develop a large airbase somewhere near Kuching to base future combat squadrons. It would take many Malaysia Plans to achieve it.I think gradually it will. If i m not mistaken, half of the MKM will station in east Malaysia.
I actually read it in the news. And yes, it is associated with the new base.Where did you hear this from? There is no major airbase in the east yet and RMAF would not park the MKM under a typical aircraft hanger. However there is a plan to develop a large airbase somewhere near Kuching to base future combat squadrons. It would take many Malaysia Plans to achieve it.
not only that, I head the TVC on AL-31FP have to be manually operated or something like that?I heard the thrust vectoring AL-31F used in the MKM and MKI have a very low MTBO, around 250 hours i believe. is it true?
We have not received an engine that lasted in 4 digits yet. lol. AL-31 are not the hallmark of reliability. And I don't believe any production J-10 is using TVC at the moment. I could be wrong.If I'm not wrong, the rumours originated when the chinese tested the TVC engines for the J-10. There were some reports stating that the MTBO (or more likely MTBFs) were 50 hours which is highly unlikely to be that low.
The web indication for MTBOs should be around 1000 hours. Even then, that's quite low.
There hasn't been much public criticism of the AL-31 engines as yet and I haven't heard of the IAF complaining about its TVC engines as well.
Regarding load-outs, there are pics of possible load-outs on the following website:
http://vayu-sena.tripod.com/info-su30mki.html
The above website also mentions media reports of engines being early overhauled at 700 hours. The rumours were dismissed by the IAF although the IAF acknowledged problem with engine fan blades.
Just an example.
Sep 2003 article talking abt the 700 hour thingy.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20030914.aspx
Flight global's report of 1000 hour TBO for Su-30MKIs
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/05/01/213591/military-engines-russia.html
Can probably get a full picture from the BR website.