Which is the best army in the world?

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Su_37

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Well i think Isreali Army is the Best , becasue they have all things which any county want to .

1) the Best Anti Missile System , Arrow -2
2) Best Phalcon
3) Best Guns
4) best and Ultra Morden Airforce

Isreali is the one who Travel whole Africa and done a thing which other country can';t even deam off.

Isreali army defeated Arabian army single handly mnay times dispite being outnumbered in Air and Land.

They flew their plane over Damascus and bombed them , the Seryan Air force radar fails to pick them up. They AIm at Seryan King and kills their Body guard .

They bombed Iraq Nuclear Plant in 70's or 80's . and so on


Their Commando force is Best of the Best.
 
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Aussie Digger

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The Israeli's are very good. I guess you don't have much choice when you're homeland and country faces being annihilated. A war such as in Iraq is rather different. The Iraqi's must have known that the US wouldn't simply destroy their entire country, only it;s military capability and Government. If Israel lost, every part of Israel would be destroyed...
 

Fascist Fitz

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First off, Aussie Digger, what unit you at??

Now, in terms of special forces, i think you would find it hard to go past the British and Aussie SAS for all round skills and deployability. The British get the tip from me at the moment because of their greater operational service than the Aussies, however, in view of their recent involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Aussies are quickly catching up...
 

gf0012-aust

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Hi FF, I don't think the Aust SASr will catch up to the number of ops that the SAS (UK) do, there are a lot of ops they participate in which don't get to the public/press etc...
 

Majin-Vegeta

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Equipment:US
Infantry:pakistan,Israel
Special Forces:SSG Pakistan
Tanks:Russia
Bravery:pakistan,Israel

i agree with mehmood, equipment wise America is the best, but by power and bravery, no one matches to Pakistan :D, I dont know about now a days..since there hasnt been a war for quite long and Pakistans training hours gone down?? :S i duno..but i still think they have a very powerful military.

:!: Edited. Anti-Indian comments deleted. Plzzz avoid giving such statements.

Oqaab :!:
 

elkaboingo

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dont over estimate israel though, i remember them sending a tank column unsupported by infantry... well you know the outcome of that when it reached the defensive positions in sinai... their might comes from USA but they are highly motivated.

pretty sure the SAS (uk) is the best for SF.
latest equipment and stuff, definitely the US.
 

umair

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My two cents:
Special forces:
1)SBS UK
2)SAS UK
3)Deltas
4)IDF special forces

Pakistani SSG is modelled on the SAS of the British.These guys have taken part in a lot of covert ops but like their British counterparts their ops are kept hush hush.Even what's available in army circles is merely speculation so I don't know where to put our guys on the list.One thing is for sure there main op areas were Afghanistan in the 80s and the mideast at present.
Our naval special forces are modelled on the SBS but they have not seen any action as far as I know. :help
 

elkaboingo

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well, i dont think the ssg has seen much action lately except guarding the president.

right now, other than training, they are acting as air marshals aboard PIA flights
 

farina

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elkaboingo said:
well, i dont think the ssg has seen much action lately except guarding the president.

right now, other than training, they are acting as air marshals aboard PIA flights
ssg is failing at guarding the president! Its presidents luck that is saving him from all these attacks other than that SSG's are not doing a good job. I guess, they are not getting the full intelligence information from ISI or they just want to see if the cat really has nine-lives. :lol :p
 

elkaboingo

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very hard to get intelligence on a suicide bomber driving in a truck.

and if youve seen the maze of streets that is rawal pindi, a guy driving a truck could burst from anywhere.

a side note, i saw one commando jump from a moving van and pull out a pistol and shoot a target. very freaky.
 

The Watcher

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Aussie Digger said:
The Australian SAS has never had a soldier killed from direct (or indirect for that matter) enemy fire. And yes Australian SASR troopers are engaged in a lot more operations than the general public hear about. I know that Australian SASR troopers attached to the West Coast TAG (Tactical Assault Group, one of 2 main Army Counter Terrorist Capabilities) are often seconded to Australian Police Tactical Teams for the experience that only Police teams have. Australian Police Tactical teams are engaged on a daily basision operations, including sieges, opposed entries/breaches for the execution of search warrants etc. No military special operations unit has an operational tempo that even comes close to a police team, hence the secondments. Cheers.
Thanks for the info. That would explain their role and mission in Iraq.
 

gf0012-aust

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The Aust SASr fulfill the more traditional long range recce taskings. Their role is very dissimilar to US Specops. A lot more akin to the British SAS.

They actually get assigned to emergency outpatients units in our larger hospitals as well to learn low level medical support.

Further to what A-G said before, the Police Tactical Response Groups (like a SWAT) team, some of the High Risk Prison strike teams are trained by the SASr as well.

I used to have 3-4 ex SAS who worked with me on a security project a few years back, amazing blokes. Didn't have to tell them anything, every night they would just role up, check the logbook and go and do their jobs. I think I maybe said a dozen words a shift to each of them. The others were in comparison hopless, Every 2 hours you would have to go out and make sure they were still on station, check their comms etc... ;)
 
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Aussie Digger

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And our SASR are now being used in roles which despite the fact they carry out very well they shouldn't have to do. The direct combat role they are undertaking should be undertaken by 4RAR Commando. The SASR should be used in their Long Range Reconnaisance role. It's a pity that the SASR is presently the only Australian Land Force Capability that is adequately equipped and trained to partake in a high intensity conflict. 4RAR should be there in a few years, they just lack a few capabilities (and numbers...) at present. Hopefully when the upgraded M113's, new tanks, Armed recon helo's, upgraded ASLAV's, new direct fire support weapons and new logistics and communications capabilities starting to come on line in the next few years, Australia might be able to scratch together a brigade that is capable of undertaking high intensity warfare too and relieve the burden of our overworked special forces...
 

gf0012-aust

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A-D, I would think that 4RAR Commando would agree with you as well...
Less attention should be given to any countries special forces so that can get on with the job without unwanted and sometimes unnecessary attention.

The US actually disbanded SEAL Team 6 because of all the media attention they were getting. It was creating problems for them to be able to do their jobs properly. The Brist are having the same problem with their idiot press and the SAS (much to some veiled delight of some of the SBS members..) ;)
 
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Aussie Digger

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They'll get their chance Gf you wait and see. I can see 4RAR becoming the "force of choice" for the Australian Government. They, not SASR will be deployed on masse to our next major war. SASR will still be there of course, but for their "proper" role, not the fighting role. That is 4RAR's job and as the personel and additional weapon systems, vehicles etc, from Land 132 come on line, 4RAR will be doing the bulk of Australia's fighting... Cheers.
 

Red aRRow

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farina said:
ssg is failing at guarding the president! Its presidents luck that is saving him from all these attacks other than that SSG's are not doing a good job. I guess, they are not getting the full intelligence information from ISI or they just want to see if the cat really has nine-lives. :lol :p
The Pakistani SSG does not guard the president outrightly. Usually there are one or two guys who remain very close to the president but on a general level it is the responsibility of the Presidential guards along with a special section of police.

The Air guards come from the Airport Security Force (ASF) which usually consists of either ex-army personnel or people who are trained by SSG. These guys are good in close combat, anti terrorist stuff etc..but they don't get the explosives training, skydiving, frogmanship, etc. etc. which the SSG does.
 

The Watcher

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i do belive that america is the best army in the world, but i think they depend more on there technology then skill.
It takes skill to work with that technology, plus their training is better too.
 

Soldier

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Indian NSG, MARCOS & Para-Commandos have a very good track record of completing their mission. At the same time Pakistani SSG Commandos were all caught by villagers in Indian Punjab in the war. But that does not make them bad. Sometimes situation and command plays a key role. If the Office leading SSG was stupid, none can blame rest of the operators for being caught.
Sometimes you have all the qualities of the world, with dedication to serve your country, but you end up in a ditch just coz your senior fellow took a wrong, miserable decision on which you had to work.
Peace....
 
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