Which do you think was/is the Greatest Empire ever?

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srirangan said:
That can be easily disputed. Pictography ended with the Pharoh's BC.
Regardless of the disputes the House of Wisdom AKA World library was in Baghdad, it was where all the world knowledge was compiled into Books which was a considerably new way of storing knowledge.
 

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adsH said:
Regardless of the disputes the House of Wisdom AKA World library was in Baghdad, it was where all the world knowledge was compiled into Books which was a considerably new way of storing knowledge.
True, but it was wrong to claim that Europeans didn't know how to write 1400 years ago.
 

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]greatest Empire in history got to be the Romans, it spanned from Eastern europe, [/font]England, west europe, greece, and parts of the middle east and northern africa
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PJ-10 BrahMos said:
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]greatest Empire in history got to be the Romans, it spanned from Eastern europe, [/font]England, west europe, greece, and parts of the middle east and northern africa
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Territorially speaking, the Mongols and Brit's definitely did better.
 

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srirangan said:
True, but it was wrong to claim that Europeans didn't know how to write 1400 years ago.
I never said that Europeans did not know how to write. Roma text & numbers r very old. All m saying is that civilization & civilization know-how (Writing, reading, engineering etc) were limited to few great cities like Rome, Athens, Troy, Sparta. During the rise of Muslim Empires even the great cities like Rome & Athens had fallen to dark ages but they still remained the most knowledgeble cities of Europe.

Speaking Territorially Muslim empire streached out from entire Middle East to Central Asia (Balkans), South-Asia, South East Asia, Some parts of China (Xing Xang province), almost half of the Europe & most of the Africa. This is why Micheal Hart author of "100 Great personalities" or what ever refers to the Empire of Kalif Omar Ibne Khatab as the greatest Empire ever vitnessed in the recorded history. Not only in the sense of territory but also technological & educational advantage. The base of chemistry today was laid out by the Muslim scientist of that time. Even the word Chemistry comes from the Arabic word Al-Khaim (the soil) it started with the study of brown soil of egypt. Muslim scholars wanted to knw why the soil was brown. PS the Al-Gebra also got its birth.
 

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SABRE said:
I never said that Europeans did not know how to write. Roma text & numbers r very old. All m saying is that civilization & civilization know-how (Writing, reading, engineering etc) were limited to few great cities like Rome, Athens, Troy, Sparta. During the rise of Muslim Empires even the great cities like Rome & Athens had fallen to dark ages but they still remained the most knowledgeble cities of Europe.

Speaking Territorially Muslim empire streached out from entire Middle East to Central Asia (Balkans), South-Asia, South East Asia, Some parts of China (Xing Xang province), almost half of the Europe & most of the Africa. This is why Micheal Hart author of "100 Great personalities" or what ever refers to the Empire of Kalif Omar Ibne Khatab as the greatest Empire ever vitnessed in the recorded history. Not only in the sense of territory but also technological & educational advantage. The base of chemistry today was laid out by the Muslim scientist of that time. Even the word Chemistry comes from the Arabic word Al-Khaim (the soil) it started with the study of brown soil of egypt. Muslim scholars wanted to knw why the soil was brown. PS the Al-Gebra also got its birth.
True then the Chemistry was translated into Roman Characters along with Algebra etc.
 

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luckily the Chinese emperor agreed to pay annual protection fees to Qutaibah ibn Muslim, if not at least half of China will fall to the hand of Qutaibah army.

China is quite lucky. mostly contributed by their isolationistic policy. since they pose no threat to muslims, muslim rulers just seem to leave them alone. except for the Xing Xang of course
 

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from i understand about the Muslim empire, they were consisted of several independent emirates bond together by common faith of Islam. the Khalifah is more like a symbol of unity rather then the actual rulers of the whole stretch of the empire. each emirates is free to pursue their own course and khalifah have not much saying in the shaping of their internal policies. of course if any muslim land was threaten by the enemy, khalifah have the authority to demand military aid from all the Muslim emirates and refusal to answer the call to arms might risk anger from the whole muslim populations.
 

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for all the gung ho about the US military and economic superiority, it seems they are now screaming for help in Iraq.
 

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I think that British Empire was the best of all. They had many colonies and promoted development and education in them, though they had there wicked sides too!

As far as the Mongols, they were great warriors of there time and managed the biggest conquest in mankind history but they submerged among the people of there conquests soon!

And Roman Empire also has my respects too, it survived for 1000 years and share great history of glory and tragedy.

Currently USA owns my respect!
 
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I have to admit that the USA has to be the biggest now. But at one point Rome probably controled more land then the americans do now.
 

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fraken_14 said:
I have to admit that the USA has to be the biggest now. But at one point Rome probably controled more land then the americans do now.
No one controlled as much territory as the British did.
 

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As far as the Mongols, they were great warriors of there time and managed the biggest conquest in mankind history but they submerged among the people of there conquests soon!
conquest is cultural as much as military. Strong cultural practice may last long after the end of military occupation. mongol might have a superb military but very few cultural value because they are afterall a nomad living in a steppe wasteland with most of their time spent only for survival. when they met with the rich cultures of the peoples they manage to conquer, they tend to be absorbed quite immedietly. example, Tamerlane, a great grandson of Ghengis Khan, is a muslim, a culture taken from the arabs and persians they conquered. Kublai Khan, adopted to chinese culture when he manage to annexed the whole of China
 

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their empire just got to big to handle. They didn't have enought troops to keep that big of an empire in order. The same kind of thing happened to Rome. They got greedy and took more than they could handle.
 

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fraken_14 said:
their empire just got to big to handle. They didn't have enought troops to keep that big of an empire in order. The same kind of thing happened to Rome. They got greedy and took more than they could handle.
ABCA, still quite an empire.
 

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True the British empire may have had the most territorial land than the romans, however, the roman empire came hundreds of years before the rise of the English. They did not enjoy the luxeries of advancing technology. Also it is interesting that no1 mentioned the egyptions. So much of math learned in schools today came from or derived from the Egyptions. Also China, the middle kindom, was a large empires where asian states paid tributaries to China without China using force. Also China provided much scientifically from gunpowder to paper.
 

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doggychow14 said:
True the British empire may have had the most territorial land than the romans, however, the roman empire came hundreds of years before the rise of the English. They did not enjoy the luxeries of advancing technology. Also it is interesting that no1 mentioned the egyptions. So much of math learned in schools today came from or derived from the Egyptions. Also China, the middle kindom, was a large empires where asian states paid tributaries to China without China using force. Also China provided much scientifically from gunpowder to paper.

The Romans were Probably the Most Advance of them All they had the technology that was greater then anyone’s during there time, Its easy to Compare Now technology with the Romans technology but the Romans were the Superpower of there Time. Just like all the other Empires of there time.

 
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