War Against ISIS

SASWanabe

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thats one weird photo,

"Something" (in Arabic)
"Commando" (in English) (Edit: Just noticed its spelt wrong aswel missing an M)
"Russia"( in Cyrillic)

seems like someone has an identity crysis
 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
No worries :)

Update greatly appreciated as always. Do you know what the patch is?
I'm having trouble viewing the second photo. I can only see the one with two guys, one a Hezbollah fighter in what looks like MARPAT, and the other a Russian-looking soldier in sand-colored cammies, flak and kevlar, and carrying a kitted out AK. Behind them is an uparmored SUV.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
Well I'm glad you have. Hope you interviewed some Serbs, as well. They would tell you their historical perspective on their 750 year long struggle for the "liberty" of Kosovo, and also the connection between Kosovo and some of the essential parts of Serbian collective memory which lies at the core of the Serbian national identity.

In fact, historical links between Serbs and Kosovo, and the role Kosovo plays in Serbian national identity is one of much higher importance than the that of Crimea in Russian (or while we are at it, Kosovo in generic Albanian identity).

Its not the point "who is right" in these disputes, since the rule of the thumb is that no one usually is. National myths (like the one on "750 years of struggle for autonomy" , or Serbian myths regarding Kosovo battle in XIV century), are nothing but the relatively modern narratives, used by different political structures to their own means.

The point is that conflicting "historical perspectives" exist in every part of modern world, in the era of nationalism, where national conflicts emerge.

Its the case in South Ossetia, in Abkhazia, in Nagorno-Karabakh, Catalonia, Baskia, Kosovo ... or, for that matter in Israel and Palestine.

And those cant be used as a justification for a land grab. Thats the point.



Exactly.
Danes could tell you about the role of the Dannevirke in their national identity, going back over 1000 years. It means nothing to Germans.

It's been entirely in Germany since the Prussian land grab in 1864. It stayed in Germany after the post WW1 referendum because, well . . . most of the locals thought of themselves as (& spoke) German, & had done so for hundreds of years.

The border is no longer controversial. The small Danish minority south of it (from which some of my relatives come) has official encouragement to speak its language, & is thoroughly integrated.
 

Ranger25

Active Member
Staff member
The RAF has been bombing Daesh in Iraq, albeit at low intensity, for over a year.
And the Kremlin is "welcoming the support"

We continue to welcome any effort aimed at fighting terrorism and Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL] in particular. We believe that if such efforts are coordinated as part of a single coalition, they would become more effective,” said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, commenting on British bombings on militants in Syria.
 

Feanor

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Staff member
The RAF has been bombing Daesh in Iraq, albeit at low intensity, for over a year.
Interesting. Russian press is reporting the current action as if it signifies some sort of new step. I'll look into this when I get a chance.

Meanwhile there are reports that the Kurds have begun a decisive offensive against the non-ISIS rebels north of Aleppo, including the FSA. The Turkish ties of these rebels make them a fairly logical target for the Kurds, and seem to indicate that the interests of the Kurds and Assad, at least at this point in time, are aligned.
 

wittmanace

Active Member
Interesting. Russian press is reporting the current action as if it signifies some sort of new step. I'll look into this when I get a chance.

Meanwhile there are reports that the Kurds have begun a decisive offensive against the non-ISIS rebels north of Aleppo, including the FSA. The Turkish ties of these rebels make them a fairly logical target for the Kurds, and seem to indicate that the interests of the Kurds and Assad, at least at this point in time, are aligned.
Well, on the bbc they said Britain carried out more attacks than France but Britain did it all in Iraq. The numbers were 270 vs 344 though I didn't catch the time frame exactly. It was post Hebdo and also something post last Paris attacks also (after each, France ramped up numbers).

A famous example of course is the British strike that killed "jihadi John".
 

chemical bro

New Member
9-division of the Syrian army is carrying out together with Russian instructors preparation for an offensive in Idlib and fighting in mountainous terrain.
While in Northern Aleppo and Azaz there is a situation that "all are fighting against all", the Syrian army with the help of Russia and Iran uses this time to regroup and prepare major offensives

Valley al-Gab today.Syrian jet system of volley fire Grad (hail) in action

Without photos and links, sorry.

Erdogan said Obama, close the border with Syria is very expensive and demanded money. Nothing personal, just business
 

GermanHerman

Active Member
Erdogan said Obama, close the border with Syria is very expensive and demanded money. Nothing personal, just business
Yeah surprisingly the influx of refugees stop suddenly after the EU agreed to pay Turkey 3Billion Euros for their... services?

I am still kind of buffled about the sudden start and great force with which the refugee crisis hit eruope. Does anyone have any insight on the causalities that triggered this sudden gain in momentum?

Did Greece cease border controll or did Turkey encourage the refugees to go north? Have there been massiv gains by ISIS in that time? German Newspaper never cared to elaborate about this, please share your thoughts and sources if you have any.

Thanks!
 

chemical bro

New Member
Did you see the face of Erdogan?Can we expect from this person something good?
Refugees they are miserable people, who have been uprooted by war from their land,which gave the last money to move to Europe.Erdogan earned at human Woe, so what? For the smuggler this is quite normal business.
In general, the problem of illegal immigration has always existed, only in connection with the war in Syria had become worse for Europe.Erdogan is your strategic partner in this question,I think you will agree where refugees to resettle
P.S.
Unfortunately, the German official press degraded and very much.
 

Toblerone

Banned Member
Yeah surprisingly the influx of refugees stop suddenly after the EU agreed to pay Turkey 3Billion Euros for their... services?

I am still kind of buffled about the sudden start and great force with which the refugee crisis hit eruope. Does anyone have any insight on the causalities that triggered this sudden gain in momentum?

Did Greece cease border controll or did Turkey encourage the refugees to go north? Have there been massiv gains by ISIS in that time? German Newspaper never cared to elaborate about this, please share your thoughts and sources if you have any.

Thanks!
Once boats leave turkish shores, it's a spitting distance away from greek island shores. The greek coast guard, even when it intercepts the boats, is obligated to "rescue" them. Many times the immigrants jump in the water or sabotage their own boats to take advantage of this. There is no way to force them back to Turkey unless violence is used.

Also since January 2015 there is a new party in power in Greece because of the economic situation. Some leftist antinationalists that fail in all aspects of government. Until they lose power you can forget about rational decisions from them, only what the EU forces them to do, using the whip and carrot method.

The main problem is the border (lack of) control that EU countries decided upon, in favour of refugees over all other considerations.
 

ZeonChar

New Member
Once boats leave turkish shores, it's a spitting distance away from greek island shores. The greek coast guard, even when it intercepts the boats, is obligated to "rescue" them. Many times the immigrants jump in the water or sabotage their own boats to take advantage of this. There is no way to force them back to Turkey unless violence is used.

Also since January 2015 there is a new party in power in Greece because of the economic situation. Some leftist antinationalists that fail in all aspects of government. Until they lose power you can forget about rational decisions from them, only what the EU forces them to do, using the whip and carrot method.

The main problem is the border (lack of) control that EU countries decided upon, in favour of refugees over all other considerations.
The problem is, all these immigrants flooding Europe will be automatically liberal. They will outnumber natives in any general election. It'll be hard for any good ole right wingers to get back in power this day and age. Also, I think this is why many native Europeans like Putin, Marie Le Pen, Golden Dawn, ect.
 

wittmanace

Active Member
The problem is, all these immigrants flooding Europe will be automatically liberal. They will outnumber natives in any general election. It'll be hard for any good ole right wingers to get back in power this day and age. Also, I think this is why many native Europeans like Putin, Marie Le Pen, Golden Dawn, ect.
Err.....what??

Let's stick to the topic please, I would hate for mods to lock this thread for going off topic or anything.
 
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