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Terran

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Lots of lost aircraft from the Nimitz lately. I know she's due to be decommissioned soon. I wonder how much this has to due to her age. Perhaps a catapult or landing issues. Even some kind of issues with maintenance bays. (Tho I have no idea what kind of issues would be relivent).
In this case both aircraft were off the boat. One was a H60 which doesn’t use the cat.
 

crest

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In this case both aircraft were off the boat. One was a H60 which doesn’t use the cat.
Yeah I'm aware of that just wondering if there is any correlation, most people here know more about navle matters then me. I'm sure a great deal of things on a Carrier effect the reliability of airborne assets pre flight. It could very well just be bad luck this year and tempo.
Correlation does not mean causation after all but it would be nice to know as there is still a few more of the class coming off the seas in the neer to mid term. As it could effect any decisions to extend the life of them if ship construction and procurement continue to cause issues
 

StobieWan

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On Saturday 14:45 local time, the US Navy lost an MH-60R helicopter in the Spratly Sea. Less than a half hour later, also an F-18F crashed into the sea. All crew members survived and the investigation has started to find out how this could happen.




Here a Twitter post about the two crashes.
I was watching a YT channel with an ex Navy and ex USAF pilot talking about this and the first question they had was "do we know where the Gettysburgh was at the time?" (Gettysburgh was the blue on blue shooter a bit back)

I did chuckle.
 

crest

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Another classic idea from the IOTUS. Maybe his buddy Xi can supply EMALS if General Atomics's aren't reliable enough. Either that or kick butt at General Atomics, a hell of a lot cheaper than a redesign of the Ford back to steam and hydraulics.

Executive Order To Go Back To Steam Catapults On New Aircraft Carriers Coming: Trump
I actually do know a little bit about this from what I can gather the EMALS on the Chinese carriers are all on independent power tracks. The Ford class has them in sequence a much less reliable system as if the first one goes there all gone untill it's fixed. Also more complex so even if there designed better there is still more moving parts. Tho iirc the Ford class can deliver more launches before power is a issue as it's more efficient.

Also I know chinas also have battery backup storage for power it is possible the launches we seen were that and not pulling power from the reactor

dont know if that's the right call or not. I get how the sequence issue can basically incap your carrier, my question is if your going to redesign it back to steam, why not just remove the sequence issue? Tho I admit that could be a large enough issue that cost and time mean it's steam or risk having a aircraft carrier that doesn't work in case of a break down or damage.
 
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John Fedup

The Bunker Group
I actually do know a little bit about this from what I can gather the EMALS on the Chinese carriers are all on independent power tracks. The Ford class has them in sequence a much less reliable system as if the first one goes there all gone untill it's fixed. Also more complex so even if there designed better there is still more moving parts. Tho iirc the Ford class can deliver more launches before power is a issue as it's more efficient.

Also I know chinas also have battery backup storage for power it is possible the launches we seen were that and not pulling power from the reactor

dont know if that's the right call or not. I get how the sequence issue can basically incap your carrier, my question is if your going to redesign it back to steam, why not just remove the sequence issue? Tho I admit that could be a large enough issue that cost and time mean it's steam or risk having a aircraft carrier that doesn't work in case of a break down or damage.
My knowledge is also limited but re-introducing steam catapults to the the Ford class, IMHO, isn't possible. The cost would be huge. Does the supply chain for steam catapults still exist? Surely a rethink on EMALS by GA is a better option. As for the elevators, possibly going back to the old system is doable. Giving up on EMALS and going back to steam....might need to dust off the Nimitz drawings!
 
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