The Russian-Ukrainian War Thread

rsemmes

rsemmes

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It seems that Beltrami2005 does not consider Malta a country. (To cite one.)

Zelenski just said that Ukraine has suffered 55.000 dead.
www.bbc.co.uk

55,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed in war with Russia, Zelensky says

The Ukrainian president also said a large number of people were "officially missing", meaning the total death toll is thought to be much higher.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Vadym Ivchenko (a member of the Verkhovna Rada’s Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence) said: (23-11-2025)
Ukraine’s military losses exceed 500,000 killed and as many wounded.
voennoedelo.com

Ivchenko Claims Ukraine’s Military Losses Top 1 Million

Rada member Vadim Ivchenko states Ukraine’s military losses exceed 500,000 killed and as many wounded, with UN data suggesting totals may reach 1.7 million.
voennoedelo.com voennoedelo.com

"The number of wounded soldiers who are no longer able to serve in the Ukrainian military is also close to 500,000." Not the number of wounded. Anyway, if he got the KIA/MIA wrong but the total estimate right, we could have 200.000 KIA and 800.000 WIA. I completely disregard that UN reference and its "source", as much as Zelenski's and TASS estimates'. Propaganda from both sides and a "statement against interests" by a member of the Rada (but maybe in the interest of Ukraine).
 
Beltrami2005

Beltrami2005

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PachkaSigaret said:
What a sad and disgusting comment to make. Hopefully with time and age you'll reconsider such a mindset.
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Russia started the war and obviously russia doesnt care about its own population. Why should the victim care more about the population of the agressor, than the agressors own regime?

Ukraine got attacked, Russia committed horrendous crimes on ukrainian people. I come from a military background. It is best to avoid war at all cost, but when war is pushed on you, you fight and you certainly dont care about the enemies well being.

Btw looks like starlink got deactivated for russia, thats good news. They wont be able to use for their drones.
 
Beltrami2005

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swerve

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PachkaSigaret said:
As Feanor pointed out in previous posts in this thread, the last proper census in Ukraine occurred in 2001, when the population was 48 million. I believe the census before that was conducted during the Soviet period, when Ukraine accounted for roughly 70 million of the total.
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Ukraine census population
2001 48 457 100
1989 51,706,742
1979 49,755,000
1970 47,261,305
1959 41 869 046

Never anywhere near 70 million

Pre-war, Ukraine was smaller, because a large part of what is now western Ukraine was in Poland.
 
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