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[ngatimozart]

The first steel has been cut on HMS Active, the second Type 31. Active has 11 predecessors, with the previous Active on active service in the Falklands War, one each in WW2 and WW1. The 1769 Active "... captured a prize of £100 million worth of Spanish treasure." That would've been great prize money for the crew.

Steel cut on new Type 31 Frigate in Scotland

The first steel has been cut for HMS Active, the second of five new Type 31 Frigates, at the Babcock shipyard in Rosyth.

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[Antipode]

The first steel has been cut on HMS Active, the second Type 31. Active has 11 predecessors, with the previous Active on active service in the Falklands War, one each in WW2 and WW1. The 1769 Active "... captured a prize of £100 million worth of Spanish treasure." That would've been great prize money for the crew.

Steel cut on new Type 31 Frigate in Scotland

The first steel has been cut for HMS Active, the second of five new Type 31 Frigates, at the Babcock shipyard in Rosyth.

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Spare change, amigo!


A view of the captured Spanish frigate Hermione with Favourite (left) and Active (right) in background: painting by Richard Wright. (Source: Wikipedia)

I haven’t find any other images of the vessel. The wiki article states that it was indeed the greatest single amount of prize money ever awarded to a british crew. It was captured by the French in 1778, serving until 1794.

 

[StobieWan]

Good news to see the Type 31's being worked on. I will be genuinely curious as to see how these ships turn out.

 

[Systems Adict]

Some RN 'news' from UK media...

Water systems Contaminated on Type 23 Frigate

Carrier HMS Prince of Wales needs additional repairs

 

[FormerDirtDart]

Some RN 'news' from UK media...

Water systems Contaminated on Type 23 Frigate

Carrier HMS Prince of Wales needs additional repairs

I guess the biting question now is, have they already or when will they commence a thorough inspection of the propeller shafts on Queen Elizabeth?

 

[ngatimozart]

I guess the biting question now is, have they already or when will they commence a thorough inspection of the propeller shafts on Queen Elizabeth?

From Carrier HMS Prince of Wales needs additional repairs

"Engineers also examined the HMS Queen Elizabeth’s propeller shafts to ensure she would not break down. No faults were identified."​

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So I guess that answers your question.

 

[StobieWan]

Beggars belief that the second shaft on PoW was faulty too apparently - that's like winning the lottery, taking your coat off to give to some homeless person and finding *another* winning ticket in an inside pocket.

QE is fine - which leads to the question as to why ? I believe the RN ordered a lot of long lead items in a single hit, part of a deliberate attempt to prevent them being easy to cancel.

 

[Volkodav]

Beggars belief that the second shaft on PoW was faulty too apparently - that's like winning the lottery, taking your coat off to give to some homeless person and finding *another* winning ticket in an inside pocket.

QE is fine - which leads to the question as to why ? I believe the RN ordered a lot of long lead items in a single hit, part of a deliberate attempt to prevent them being easy to cancel.

The nick name for HMAS Perth, the last of the ANZACs, was HMAS Rotable Parts Pool. She got everything that had been returned to store because it was found to have issues on the earlier ships.

 

[Systems Adict]

Appreciate that it's about a week old, but still good to know that we have a new submarine in the water...
HMS Anson sets sail

 

[FormerDirtDart]

HMS Tyne sporting new Western Approaches camouflage scheme previously seen on her sistership HMS Severn
Wondering when/if HMS Mersey will receive the facelift

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632737962570948608

 

[CJohn]

The new Multi Role Ocean Support ship RFA Proteus in her naval colours.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643200758668509185

 

[swerve]

Bloody hell, she's ugly!

Function & form, I know, but it's hard to warm to her.

 

[ngatimozart]

Bloody hell, she's ugly!

Function & form, I know, but it's hard to warm to her.

She's definitely ugly. For comparison this is HMNZS Manawanui.

Source: HMNZS Manawanui

 

[spoz]

Yep.

HMNZS Manawanui - ugly

ADV Reliant - very ugly

RFA proteus - appallingly ugly

 

[Volkodav]

Yep.

HMNZS Manawanui - ugly

ADV Reliant - very ugly

RFA proteus - appallingly ugly

Or,

Cute,



Otherwise known as ugly, but interesting.

 

[StobieWan]

Bloody hell, she's ugly!

Function & form, I know, but it's hard to warm to her.

Definitely a double bagger. One for her head and one for yours in case hers slips off and you want to make sure you're not seen with her in public.

As you say, function/form..

 

[Systems Adict]

Definitely a double bagger. One for her head and one for yours in case hers slips off and you want to make sure you're not seen with her in public.

As you say, function/form..

AH !

The old ones are the best...

Pity they didn't write more of em...



Getting back to things that are kinda RN related....

Unions warn of frigate delay in Rosyth dockyard strike

 

[StobieWan]

AH !

The old ones are the best...

Pity they didn't write more of em...



Getting back to things that are kinda RN related....

Unions warn of frigate delay in Rosyth dockyard strike

That's pretty grim news about possible strike action. If it does happen, I'd imagine it'll push everything to the right for Type 31 and could lead to the yard being one of the shortest lived outside of hostilities.

 

[SD67]

In the Torygraph (paywall) - reports that a block or two of T31 might be made in Poland :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/03/04/poland-beefs-navy-deal-buy-british-type-31-frigates/1

Of course the comments section is on fire, personally I think it's sensible, training up the Polish workforce and creating some economies of scale by specialisation

 

[StobieWan]

Bit more commentary from UK defence - pretty much says as above - we're trading labour costs, training the Polish on working on their own order etc.

Poland building part of a British frigate – why?

The deal between the UK and Poland to build specific parts of a UK ship and for Britain to build parts of a Polish ship does not contradict the UK's policy of not building complex warships overseas

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