dave h i am not british, i am spanish, so excuse my alphabet, what i mean is that by now any firm order for cvf has been placed and maybe you remember what happened with cva 01 in 1966, they spent a lot of money in to design it and finally they cancelled, as you have to understand is not normal that from july 2004 that it was the time the approval for the project and it was to be announced in parliament by the then minister now 3 years later still is not approved, they say because industrial compretition, prices , i don, t know but the true is that by now these 2 future carriers are only in the paper, to put you an example the spanish navy designed and will built the new lhd buque de proyeccion estrategica in only 7 years, of course is a less complex ship but is not a frigate too is a ship of 32000 tonnes and the cvf start the project in 1999 and still steel has not been cut, in my opinion this is not normal, the ships were expected to enter in service in 2012 and 2015 , now if finally they are built they will enter service in 2016-2019 as the earliest so if do you think this is not to suspect about cancellation, it,s like a joke, from july 2004 at least 10 times i have heard that the approval and order was imminent last time just a few weeks ago they said that the approval was to be in april and again nothing, so this is because until i don,t see the ships sailing i don,t believe as you can understand.
) its been nicknamed the 60km sniper.
