T-80 and T-90 MBTs

[Waylander]

Often enough round about 500mm RHA are said about the T-72M1's armor. The L/44 penetrated it during tests (And the KE left the turret at the back) at more than 1km and during the trials in Greece at nearly 4km with the L/55 (Where it also left the turret at the back).
If I consider this your facts look much to small.

 

[Viktor]

Viktor

So according to tables Extern provided us with we can conclude that T-90 as well as Leopard2A5 has similar armour protection and similar penetration capabilities.
Strange I allways thought Leo2 to be superior to any other tank around.
What are Merkava 4 armour protection, has anyone some information?

 

[Waylander]

I could also use this website as a source.
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/leo2.htm

I am especially sceptical about the T-80U having the same penetration capabilities like a Leopard 2 A6.
As I said before the L/55 is able to penetrate a T-71M1 at nearly 4000 meters and the KE still leaves the turret at the back.
The penetration capability is 30% higher than a british L30 with DU rounds.
30% percent more is really huge in terms of penetration.
In the end.
Who knows?

 

[eckherl]

I would still place my money on the Leopard 2A5 or A6, The M1A2 is just as potent. The South Korean Army recieved a big batch of T-80U`s and BMP 3`s from Russia to pay off some debt, The Americans were given three of them for testing purposes, the armor protection is not as good as expected. I would also like to say that one of latest Russian long rod penetrators model BR11 could penetrate the frontal armor of a M1A1 at 1600 meters, with that the armor upgrade on the M1A2 was centered around, with this penetrator being made out of DU the Russians probably have reached the max capabilities of the 125mm. It will be interesting to see all the tests that the Germans are performing on the 130mm gun.

 

[extern]

On duty somewhere in Great Ellas:

 

[Andrei_bt]

IMHO, the chineese Type-xx seem to be in basic aspects the development of the T-55/T-62 ideas rather that T-64/72/80/90 line. The havn't got the T-80's level of compaction.

On the picture: modernised T-62 (Russia) looks in its dimention pretty close to chinese Type-88/89.

T-55, and Nothing close to chinese Type-88/89, no smallest thing at all!

 

[extern]

Т-80's on Russo-American exersises Torgau-2005: http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2005_05/2705052104.asf

 

[extern]

T-90 and T-80 at Omsk-2005 military show (video): http://www.pwgs.org/exh/rus/omsk2005.wmv

 

[Viktor]

Yeah... thanks, I've answered already. Relatively to Rheimetall APFSDSs, I should say, if they were tried on Greek tender only swains might be dont know their capability. Be sure, all those who need it, know it. : And also be sure, if it is known the answer is coming soon...

Second, Those who knew they didnt have a chance to win tender for NATO EU state like Greece, have brought the fake monkey APFSDS there(like Russia and Ukrain). WHy to disclose your best if you dont have a chance?

Look on the tables: there is a long hystory of strugle between sword and shield.

Information you provided about Russian and German APFSDS rounds is great I wounder have you same information about Russian and German HEAT rounds.