Su -30 Series

[srirangan]

Neither were the MKI's taking part in the exercises. The Su-30 MI-1's were taking part, the similarity in nomneclatures caused a lot of confusion in the online community.

Anyway I'm not claiming that the IAF can beat the USAF, we all know that there's a -vast- gap betw the two forces, but plane to plane, pitted with equally skilled pilots and similar ammunition, the Su-30 MKI's will do evenly against the best plane of its generation.

That being said it's a known fact that the USAF and USN are the strongest air powers in the middle-east and south asian and east asian regions. But then there are some around who claim (and I'm now quoting) that "China can kill US for a joke" me is

Note to hasty posters: I am not comparing the flankers with the raptors or the ef-2000's or the PAK FA's; so please read carefully before you jump abord to bash my posts.

 

[gf0012-aust]

None of the USAF F-15C's were their AESA kitted versions from the 12th at Elmendorf. The aircraft from Elmendorf used were from the 11th - non-AESA aircraft. So, like the Indians, they held back their critical units. The other thing is that Both sides didn't field integrated AWAC's or EW. So the exercise (as I have tried to point out with the DACT article) was a typical scripted event. Both sides were tasked to win and lose missions - it's standard DACT training, otherwise both sides don't get to learn anything.

Interesting to note that the US currently has a flight of modified Su-27's as part of their aggressor squadron.

 

[adsH]

Interesting to note that the US currently has a flight of modified Su-27's as part of their aggressor squadron"""


is that so !! where did they manage to procure these, i think its more Anti chinese exercises then INdian, But it works for both forces.

that fact that they never used EW or AWACS in the exercises, just tells me that the US was never interested in such an exercise they have more to losse then the IAF, because most of the EW and AWACS are Israeli and the US has superiors E3c )i think ) thy still are the best right, even tho teh Israeli have done a great job!!. point is that the US probably knows what the Israelis gave the INdians they approved the sale for such equipments.

 

[gf0012-aust]

"Interesting to note that the US currently has a flight of modified Su-27's as part of their aggressor squadron"


is that so !! where did they manage to procure these, i think its more Anti chinese exercises then INdian, But it works for both forces.

that fact that they never used EW or AWACS in the exercises, just tells me that the US was never interested in such an exercise they have more to losse then the IAF, because most of the EW and AWACS are Israeli and the US has superiors E3c )i think ) thy still are the best right, even tho teh Israeli have done a great job!!. point is that the US probably knows what the Israelis gave the INdians they approved the sale for such equipments.

The US doesn't regard India as a threat - India used to be of some concern in the halcyon days of the Soviet Union, and that's mainly because the US saw the Sovs using India as a buffer against China and Pakistan. Now, to some extent both India and the US see China as using Pakistan as a first layer buffer against India.

AFAIK the declared range of the US AWAC's and EW platforms is significantly superior to anything else that has been measured in "sprints" and from space, I know of some operators who have worked with the USAF and they were amazed at how far the undeclared range is.

2 years ago the US military was at a stage where they had virtual coverage of the globe by space monitoring stations - and remember 5 years ago they were the first nation to monitor and manage weapons from space as part of an integrated deliverable plan. That should give you an idea of how strong their tactical surveillance is.

 

[adsH]

Amazing no wonder why the UK sticks with the US we can utilize such enormous resources and tactical surveillance for our use i say this because i think US's most closet ally is the UK we house there most top secret Aircrafts the Stealth bombers

 

[Winter]

Amazing no wonder why the UK sticks with the US we can utilize such enormous resources and tactical surveillance for our use i say this because i think US's most closet ally is the UK we house there most top secret Aircrafts the Stealth bombers

Well, as far as what the UK houses for the US I think the Bush Administration is much more interested in something like the Fylingdales facility...

As for the Su-30, is this recent report on the Chinese fleet credible?:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/26/154053.shtml

 

[webmaster]

Winter, it seems originating source for that article is newsmax. I would like to see what are their sources other than quoting Mr. Richard. You can find other "right" wing websites publishing this article on their websites too. So, it does have a political angle to it - maybe since right in US likes to spend more on defense, etc. More money for more advanced weapon systems like F-22 and JSF could be the reason. But then again, thats my personal opinion and observation/assumption.

 

[Winter]

Winter, it seems originating source for that article is newsmax. I would like to see what are their sources other than quoting Mr. Richard. You can find other "right" wing websites publishing this article on their websites too. So, it does have a political angle to it - maybe since right in US likes to spend more on defense, etc. More money for more advanced weapon systems like F-22 and JSF could be the reason. But then again, thats my personal opinion and observation/assumption.

Right, thats news to me since finding it in the GoogleNews engine. Thanks