Serbian Kotor-Class, Sava-Class, Heroj-Class, Mala-Class...

[Ragusian]

2 Kotor class frigates transferring from Tivat to Bar, pictures taken today by an member of ABG forum.
The Kotors are still alive and kicking

 

[mic of orion]

2 Kotor class frigates transferring from Tivat to Bar, pictures taken today by an member of ABG forum.
The Kotors are still alive and kicking

these ships are so obsolete, not sure who would want them?
What Montenegro plans to do with these ships? Sell them or keep them for patrol purposes ?

 

[Ragusian]

I wouldn't call them obdolete...
Montenegro plans to convert Kotors to OPVs, which would include removing Styx and replacing those launchers with RHIBs, and converting the stern into a helo pad. The AK 762 would be replaced with a Bofors 57 mm.
I think it's a good plan, they should be fit for 15 years of service after that.
It's a good ship, and bigger then Croatia's new corvettes

 

[contedicavour]

Completed end of the 80s IIRC, so the Kotors can still be useful for a while. The one part though that makes me sceptical is the helo pad - the hull is hardly wide enough to allow helos to land, unless we are talking about light ones (such as AB206 or Alouette sized).

cheers

 

[mic of orion]

Completed end of the 80s IIRC, so the Kotors can still be useful for a while. The one part though that makes me sceptical is the helo pad - the hull is hardly wide enough to allow helos to land, unless we are talking about light ones (such as AB206 or Alouette sized).

cheers

I wonder where they going to get money to buy two naval helicopters, if this is what we are talking about. Unless Italy donates some B212's.

 

[contedicavour]

Jane's has just reported that Montenegro has put up for sale all remaining submarines, starting with the last Sava class, and a ro-ro minelayer vessel. I wonder who would be interested in buying the Sava... Croatia ? after all it was built in Split at the end of the '70s...

cheers

 

[Ragusian]

Highly unlikely. The first reason is that the Croatian navy will not operate submarines for the foreseeable future. The second is that those subs are probably in a very, very bad condition and third, Velebit is a modified p.911 class sub, it would make more sense to get some of those and upgrade them. If we need a modern, domestically built SSK, we should(if we could) build the Lora class SSK. Those subs were meant to be around 1000-15000 tonns in displacement and enter service in the 90s, armed with Exocet SSMs and torpedoes. Since BSO Split , which is still alive and kicking, did all of the submarines in the Yugoslavia, I guess there are
design documents still alive.

 

[mic of orion]

Highly unlikely. The first reason is that the Croatian navy will not operate submarines for the foreseeable future. The second is that those subs are probably in a very, very bad condition and third, Velebit is a modified p.911 class sub, it would make more sense to get some of those and upgrade them. If we need a modern, domestically built SSK, we should(if we could) build the Lora class SSK. Those subs were meant to be around 1000-15000 tonns in displacement and enter service in the 90s, armed with Exocet SSMs and torpedoes. Since BSO Split , which is still alive and kicking, did all of the submarines in the Yugoslavia, I guess there are
design documents still alive.

never heard of lora class>>> ? do you have more info ???