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Russia's Arctic Expansion
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I will add this. You can not use this forum as a platform for advertising. You've made a series of posts containing nothing but a one-liner and a link to the exact same website over and over again. The website in question was created shortly before you joined this site. Your behavior has all the hallmarks of attempting to advertise for the site.
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The Russian Arctic construction suffers from corruption as I know
What kind of corruption do you mean. And where is any info regarding this?
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To be honest, it's generally safe to assume any large government construction contract in Russia involves corruption. Generally contracts get handed off to companies owned by a relative of some official, frequently the same official that hands out the contracts. Often there's graft or outright stealing of funds, materials, etc. There has been considerable scandal, for example, surrounding construction of the new spaceport Vostochniy. There have also been rumors of appalling working conditions, pay delays, and other problems. I would be surprised if there wasn't any corruption involved.
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Russian Paratroopers to Land on Drifting Arctic Ice
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Update.
Russia has submitted paperwork to the UN regarding Russian pretensions for territory in the Arctic.
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ðîññèÿ ïîäàëà çàÿâêó íà íîâûå òåððèòîðèè â Àðêòèêå, äîãîâîðèâøèñü ñ êîíêóðåíòàìè
The TM-140 Arctic transport vehicle for the Russian Arctic Brigades.
Опытный образец транÑпортера ТМ140 в арктичеÑком иÑполнении Ð´Ð»Ñ ÐœÐ¸Ð½Ð¸ÑтерÑтва обороны Ð*оÑÑии - bmpd
The Russian 80th Motor-Rifles Arctic Bde is practicing using dog and deer sleds, as well as snowmobiles and special transport vehicles.
Мы поедем мы помчимÑÑ Ðа оленÑÑ…. И Ñобаках. Реще на Ñнегоходах. Что там в кадре еÑÑ‚ÑŒ еще ? - Берлога Бронемедведа
"Мы поедем, мы помчимÑÑ..." - Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½
Large scale Russian projects in the Arctic are nearing completion.
Ð*оÑÑÐ¸Ñ Ð·Ð°Ð²ÐµÑ€ÑˆÐ°ÐµÑ‚ возведение военной инфраÑтруктуры в Ðрктике | Военный информатор
New Arctic uniforms for troops serving in the Arctic units.
ÐрктичеÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ñ„Ð¾Ñ€Ð¼Ð° - Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆl]
At the Russian year-round station Mirniy in the Antarctic, flight ops have resumed. While it's not the Arctic, it's very similar to Russian actions there.
[url=http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/74052/]«В Ðнтарктиде открыли роÑÑийÑкий аÑродром поÑле 26-летнего перерыва» в блоге «ÐвиациÑ» - Сделано у наÑ
Russia has submitted paperwork to the UN regarding Russian pretensions for territory in the Arctic.
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ðîññèÿ ïîäàëà çàÿâêó íà íîâûå òåððèòîðèè â Àðêòèêå, äîãîâîðèâøèñü ñ êîíêóðåíòàìè
The TM-140 Arctic transport vehicle for the Russian Arctic Brigades.
Опытный образец транÑпортера ТМ140 в арктичеÑком иÑполнении Ð´Ð»Ñ ÐœÐ¸Ð½Ð¸ÑтерÑтва обороны Ð*оÑÑии - bmpd
The Russian 80th Motor-Rifles Arctic Bde is practicing using dog and deer sleds, as well as snowmobiles and special transport vehicles.
Мы поедем мы помчимÑÑ Ðа оленÑÑ…. И Ñобаках. Реще на Ñнегоходах. Что там в кадре еÑÑ‚ÑŒ еще ? - Берлога Бронемедведа
"Мы поедем, мы помчимÑÑ..." - Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆÐ¸Ð½
Large scale Russian projects in the Arctic are nearing completion.
Ð*оÑÑÐ¸Ñ Ð·Ð°Ð²ÐµÑ€ÑˆÐ°ÐµÑ‚ возведение военной инфраÑтруктуры в Ðрктике | Военный информатор
New Arctic uniforms for troops serving in the Arctic units.
ÐрктичеÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ñ„Ð¾Ñ€Ð¼Ð° - Ð”ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐœÐ¾ÐºÑ€ÑƒÑˆl]
At the Russian year-round station Mirniy in the Antarctic, flight ops have resumed. While it's not the Arctic, it's very similar to Russian actions there.
[url=http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/74052/]«В Ðнтарктиде открыли роÑÑийÑкий аÑродром поÑле 26-летнего перерыва» в блоге «ÐвиациÑ» - Сделано у наÑ
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An Arctic version of the Tor SAM is being worked on, the main difference being that it will be mounted on a DT-30 transporter. When coupled with the polar deployments of the S-300/400 family, this gives Russia some of the best airspace control in the Arctic.
ÐрктичеÑкий вариант зенитного ракетного ºÐ¾Ð¼Ð¿Ð»ÐµÐºÑа "Тор-Ðœ2" - bmpd
ÐрктичеÑкий вариант зенитного ракетного ºÐ¾Ð¼Ð¿Ð»ÐµÐºÑа "Тор-Ðœ2" - bmpd
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A look at recent Arctic exercises by Russia. A company tactical group performed a capture and hold exercise on an Arctic island, it's a detachment from the 80th Motor-Rifles.
Ð Ð¾Ñ‚Ð½Ð°Ñ Ñ‚Ð°ÐºÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð³Ñ€ÑƒÐ¿Ð¿Ð° 80-ой бригады выÑадилиÑÑŒ на Земле Франца-ИоÑифа - nortwolf_sam
Also combined coastal AShM and air-defense training took place. Note that the Rubezh AShM is quite old, and the Pantsyr while modern is only SHORAD. But given the difficulty of deploying significant assets to the Arctic it's quite likely that they will be adequate for present and near-future threats.
Ð£Ñ‡ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐžÐ¡Ðš СФ районе ÐовоÑибирÑÐоÑтровов по защите оÑтровной зоны и морÑкого Ð¿Ð¾Ð±ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ¶ÑŒÑ Ð Ð¾ÑÑии - nortwolf_sam
Ð Ð¾Ñ‚Ð½Ð°Ñ Ñ‚Ð°ÐºÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ°Ñ Ð³Ñ€ÑƒÐ¿Ð¿Ð° 80-ой бригады выÑадилиÑÑŒ на Земле Франца-ИоÑифа - nortwolf_sam
Also combined coastal AShM and air-defense training took place. Note that the Rubezh AShM is quite old, and the Pantsyr while modern is only SHORAD. But given the difficulty of deploying significant assets to the Arctic it's quite likely that they will be adequate for present and near-future threats.
Ð£Ñ‡ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐžÐ¡Ðš СФ районе ÐовоÑибирÑÐоÑтровов по защите оÑтровной зоны и морÑкого Ð¿Ð¾Ð±ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ¶ÑŒÑ Ð Ð¾ÑÑии - nortwolf_sam
It's actually pretty impressive that they have P-15s still in operation, considering the maintenance problems associated w/the fuel.
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They've been operational this whole time on multiple fleets, and presumably are still in production. Most Coastal AShM Bdes were reduced to one btln of Rubezh and one btln of Redut units. Now they're being expanded again, but as new Bastion and Bal systems come online, the old ones aren't all being retired. Instead some are retained alongside, expanding the size of the units, or in this case the Rubezh was selected as the system to go to the Arctic. Likely because it's a time tested system. For new systems like Pantsyr and Tor SAMs for example, a special Arctic variant had to be developed. It's not clear whether this was due to limitations of existing systems or just for improved performance.
Anyways, it appears we will continue to see the venerable P-15 for quite some time yet.
УЧЕÐИЯ Ð ÐКЕТЧИКОВ - ÐРТИХООКЕÐÐСКОМ РУБЕЖЕ
БРÐВо - точно в цель!! - ÐРТИХООКЕÐÐСКОМ РУБЕЖЕ
Ð£Ñ‡ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¾Ð´Ð¾Ð»Ð¶Ð°ÑŽÑ‚ÑÑ... - ÐРТИХООКЕÐÐСКОМ РУБЕЖЕ
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Interesting exercises are taking place right now where an composite unit from the newly-formed Arctic brigade, and the northern fleet, is making a 1000 km forced march in Arctic conditions. They're using snow-mobiles and off-road vehicles. In the process they are also testing the new Arctic weather gear, and demonstrating capability for a motorized-infantry unit to operate in those conditions for extended periods of time.
"Путь помора" - nortwolf_sam
"Путь помора". Половина маршрута. - nortwolf_sam
"Путь помора" - nortwolf_sam
"Путь помора". Половина маршрута. - nortwolf_sam
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More photos from the 80th Arctic Bde. Note the exotic transport.
80-Ñ Ð°Ñ€ÐºÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ°Ñ - nortwolf_sam
80-Ñ Ð°Ñ€ÐºÑ‚Ð¸Ñ‡ÐµÑÐºÐ°Ñ - nortwolf_sam
must be russian mil photos as identical shots are appearing in the Barents Observer 
they're receiving lessons from the Sámi area herders in Lovozero, in the Kola Peninsula
they're receiving lessons from the Sámi area herders in Lovozero, in the Kola Peninsula
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Testing of new Arctic vehicles continues. Note the DT-30s aren't strictly speaking new but I've never seem them tow more then a single trailer before.
ИÑÐ¿Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ñ… образцов новых образцов ВВСТ в уÑловиÑÑ… Ðрктики - nortwolf_sam
A note, in MD East the Marines in Kamchatka (3rd Marine Regiment last time I checked) are also being designated for Arctic Warfare. Note the non-standard snow shoes and Arctic pattern uniforms.
Ðайдите на фото лыжи - nortwolf_sam
ИÑÐ¿Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ñ… образцов новых образцов ВВСТ в уÑловиÑÑ… Ðрктики - nortwolf_sam
A note, in MD East the Marines in Kamchatka (3rd Marine Regiment last time I checked) are also being designated for Arctic Warfare. Note the non-standard snow shoes and Arctic pattern uniforms.
Ðайдите на фото лыжи - nortwolf_sam
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The 2017 victory parade promises to be interesting. Arctic versions of the Pantsyr-S1 and Tor-M (1? 2?) will be shown, on what appear to be DT-30 transporters. This is an interesting priority, given that plenty of motor-rifle units continue to use outdated OSA SAMs. And of course plenty of theater-SAM regiments still lack their SHORAD companions.
ÐŸÐµÑ€Ð²Ð°Ñ Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÑ€Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°Ñ Ñ€ÐµÐ¿ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ†Ð¸Ñ ÐŸÐ°Ñ€Ð°Ð´Ð° Победы в Ðлабино: dambiev
EDIT: Apparently it's the Tor-M2.
http://altyn73.livejournal.com/1121608.html
ÐŸÐµÑ€Ð²Ð°Ñ Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÑ€Ñ‹Ñ‚Ð°Ñ Ñ€ÐµÐ¿ÐµÑ‚Ð¸Ñ†Ð¸Ñ ÐŸÐ°Ñ€Ð°Ð´Ð° Победы в Ðлабино: dambiev
EDIT: Apparently it's the Tor-M2.
http://altyn73.livejournal.com/1121608.html
Blue Jay
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I remember reading a joke somewhere that human-induced climate change was a conspiracy to invade Russia. A play off of the history of failed invasions of Russia due to the brutal winters there.
While it is not a serious statement by any means, perhaps it does raise an important observation that the Arctic is becoming increasingly accessible, whether that is through climate change or modern technological advances, and the implications it has for Russia's security and defense concerns.
The way will be opened up to tapping many resources present in the Arctic. If enough sea ice melts, it could also mean new shipping lanes. If we use our imagination and think ahead very long term, it's easy to see a lot of development and disputes happening in the region, with a lot of economic implications. An interesting thought is that we may even see the rise of booming Arctic coastal cities, but that is pure speculation.
Although there is a sort of agreement going on with the Arctic Council and various treaties, I am inclined to think that thinking there will be multilateral and tension-free resolutions to any disputes is optimistic. That may just be me.
Current international issues center around Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Pacific, but perhaps someday in the future the Arctic will take center stage as the number one issue in global politics. When that day comes, nations will want to have leverage.
Maybe it is with these long term considerations in mind, that Russia is prioritizing its ability to aggressively influence the Arctic with its military, as evidenced by even its deployment of SAM systems.
Thoughts?
While it is not a serious statement by any means, perhaps it does raise an important observation that the Arctic is becoming increasingly accessible, whether that is through climate change or modern technological advances, and the implications it has for Russia's security and defense concerns.
The way will be opened up to tapping many resources present in the Arctic. If enough sea ice melts, it could also mean new shipping lanes. If we use our imagination and think ahead very long term, it's easy to see a lot of development and disputes happening in the region, with a lot of economic implications. An interesting thought is that we may even see the rise of booming Arctic coastal cities, but that is pure speculation.
Although there is a sort of agreement going on with the Arctic Council and various treaties, I am inclined to think that thinking there will be multilateral and tension-free resolutions to any disputes is optimistic. That may just be me.
Current international issues center around Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Pacific, but perhaps someday in the future the Arctic will take center stage as the number one issue in global politics. When that day comes, nations will want to have leverage.
Maybe it is with these long term considerations in mind, that Russia is prioritizing its ability to aggressively influence the Arctic with its military, as evidenced by even its deployment of SAM systems.
Thoughts?
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You're correct. Russia is heavily investing in an upgraded icebreaker fleet, including new nukes. Also the two Arctic Bdes (the 80th and 200th) are being combined into a new Army Corps, with it's own C4I btln, and likely some other support elements. They will work with the Northern Fleet, likely as part of JOC North Fleet.
Тем временем на Севере поÑвилÑÑ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ð¹ армейÑкий ÐºÐ¾Ñ€Ð¿ÑƒÑ Ð’ÐœÐ¤. - ДобрÐпожаловать в журнал РоÑтовÑкого Орла
Тем временем на Севере поÑвилÑÑ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ñ‹Ð¹ армейÑкий ÐºÐ¾Ñ€Ð¿ÑƒÑ Ð’ÐœÐ¤. - ДобрÐпожаловать в журнал РоÑтовÑкого Орла
S-400 is needed to intercept the B-52, B-1, B-2 and escort fighters. The road from the USA to Russia passes through the North Pole. Therefore, the interception zone there is optimal.
Good afternoon from Russia!
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