Russian Navy Discussions and Updates

StobieWan · Apr 28, 2020

SolarWind said:
I concur with Feanor, his translation is correct. The news are from the point of view of the design bureau and are about frustrating delays in decision making. Still, I read something about declining interest in large warships including battle-cruisers and carriers, given that all major players are developing hyper-sonic missiles. Additionally, I recall that post events of 2014, when Russia lost the ability to procure gas turbine engines and gearboxes for their frigates and destroyers, they seriously contemplated building nuclear propulsion warships instead, since that technology is domestic. But as they developed their own domestic ability to manufacture, service, and repair conventional engines for frigates and destroyers over the years, the prospective size of their perspective nuclear cruisers began to grow until reaching Kirov-size, of which, that is Kirovs, they will in foreseeable future have 2 and perhaps even 3. Well, that is just my own thought, please feel free to correct as I am not expert in this subject.

Ushakov and Lazarev are both slated to be scrapped in 2021 if this article is correct :

Russia decides to scrap its legendary nuclear-powered battlecruisers to save money

The Russian Navy with state-owned nuclear power company Rosatom decided canceling planned service-life extensions and modernization on its two legendary nuclear-powered Kirov-class battlecruisers or heavy missile cruisers, according to Izvestiya newspaper. According to media reports in recent...

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SolarWind · Apr 28, 2020

StobieWan said:
Ushakov and Lazarev are both slated to be scrapped in 2021 if this article is correct :

Apparently Ushakov is beyond repair, while decision on Lazarev is linked to expediency and availability of funds. Works on refit of Admiral Nakhimov continue.

Scrap or Swim: What Will Happen to the Admiral Lazarev? - Overt Defense

Russia’s Kirov-class battlecruisers are some of the most heavily armed ships sailing today. But only a few are operational.

www.overtdefense.com

Russia Is Getting a Second Kirov-Class Nuclear-Powered Battlecruiser

Should NATO take notice?

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Feanor · Apr 29, 2020

On the subject of disappearing Soviet-era ships yet another 956 destroyer is planned for retirement. The ship has been in repairs since 2006, with little progress. Also slated for retirement and dismantling is the last 1134 "cruiser". I put cruiser in quotation marks because it's Soviet designation was BPK, same as the 1155 destroyers.

ЭСМИНЕЦ "БУРНЫЙ" БУДЕТ ИСКЛЮЧЕН ИЗ СОСТАВА ВМФ

Эскадренный миноносец "Бурный" проекта 956 из состава 36 дивизии надводных кораблей Тихоокеанского флота ВМФ России планируется к исключению из состава ВМФ. На данный момент все работы по восстановлению технической готовности корабля прекращены. С 2006 года эсминец начал проходить ремонт на АО "…

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УТИЛИЗАЦИЯ БПК "КЕРЧЬ" В ИНКЕРМАНЕ

Днем 27.04.2020 у причала судоразделочного завода "Чермет" в Инкермане началась утилизация большого противолодочного корабля "Керчь" проекта 1134Б Черноморского флота ВМФ России. Несколько дней назад ( 24.04.2020) корабль был отбуксирован сюда от своего штатного места в бухте Голландия. В феврале…

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This comes as the 1164 cruiser Moskva is put into drydock, leaving the 11356s in their true position representing the workhorses of the Black Sea Fleet.

Постановка в сухой док флагмана Черноморского флота гвардейского ракетного крейсера "Москва"

Фото (с) группа ВКонтакте ВМФ РОССИИ - МЫ НЕСЕМ АНДРЕЕВСКИЙ ФЛАГ В группе ВКонтаке ВМФ РОССИИ - МЫ НЕСЕМ АНДЕЕВСКИЙ ФЛАГ опубликованы фотографии постановки в сухой док флагмана Краснознаменного Черноморского флота ВМФ России Гвардейского ракетного крейсера Москва. Операция по постановке…

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A photo of the planned LHDs to be laid down at Kerch this year, and a Lavina model LHD below for comparison.

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The third 22350 is preparing for launch. It will be the first with Russian engines and powerplant. As things stand, these are the replacements for the Soviet era destroyers.

Фрегат «Адмирал Головко» проекта 22350 перемещен в спусковой плавучий док

Как сообщило 16 апреля 2020 года ПАО Судостроительный завод Северная верфь (Санкт-Петербург), строящийся для ВМФ России фрегат Адмирал Головко проекта 22350 планируется спустить на воду в конце апреля начале мая. На заказе, перемещенном в конце марта из…

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EDIT: First ship-launch trials of the hypersonic Tsirkon AShM were conducted in the White Sea using the 22350 frigates.

Первые корабельные испытания гиперзвуковой ракеты "Циркон"

Как сообщило 27 февраля 2020 года информационное агентство ТАСС, новейшую российскую гиперзвуковую ракету Циркон впервые испытали с корабля - фрегат проекта 22350 Адмирал флота Советского Союза Горшков в январе выстрелил Цирконом из акватории Баренцева моря по…

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The UTE-1 torpedo has passed state trials. This is a major milestone, prior to this all Russian subs used the antiquated USET-80. The new type is an improvement, but is still far behind western counterparts. It remains to be seen whether the VMF can overcome lobbying and problems of internal politics and force the induction of a new modern torpedo.

Торпеда УЭТ-1 «Ихтиозавр» прошла Государственные испытания

Газета Военно-промышленный курьер опубликовала статью Максима Климова Ихтиозавр на финишной прямой. Новая торпеда прошла государственные испытания, в которой говорится, что, согласно недавнему сообщению АО Корпорация Тактическое ракетное…

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EDIT2: An interesting photo set of a Bastion-P coastal AShM btln stationed on the arctic Archipelago Land of Frantz-Iosif.

Ракетные комплексы «Бастион» на Земле Франца-Иосифа

Как сообщила 24 апреля 2020 года пресс-служба Северного флота, ракетный дивизион тактической группы Северного флота, оснащённый береговым ракетным комплексом Бастион, дислоцированный на острове Земля Александры архипелага Земля Франца-Иосифа, успешно прошёл контрольную проверку за…

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SolarWind · Apr 30, 2020

According to some unnamed but high-ranking source in the VMF, earlier reports by media that work on 22350M was halted were exaggerated. Work on design of 22350M continues at the Northern Design Bureau, while work to determine time constraints for the design, confirm all paper work, and allocate funds continues at the VMF.

Источник: работы по "Супер-Горшкову" продолжат

Северное ПКБ не останавливало работы по разработке фрегатов проекта 22350М. Информация об отмене планов по созданию корабля, распространенная рядом СМИ, не соответствует действительности. Об этом Mil.Press FlotProm рассказал высокопоставленный флотский источник.

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Ananda · May 21, 2020

Russian Navy Pacific Fleet to receive three ships armed with Kalibr cruise missiles

Seems from what I see the Russian procurement, they want to have fleet of smaller ships with heavy armaments to screen the based while the offensive force will depend on Submarines.

Russia's Black Sea Fleet Completes the First Stage of its Modernization - Naval News

The Black Sea fleet is actively developing into a self-sufficient and balanced force.

www.navalnews.com

Their Corvettes will be the mainstay of surface ships. Thus the role of surface ships more on securing the sea lines surrounding their bases, and securing safety of the submarines leaving the bases. This especially in the condition against peer to peer adversaries and not against smaller opponents.

Hope @Feanor can correct me on this assessment.

Feanor · May 21, 2020

Ananda said:
Russian Navy Pacific Fleet to receive three ships armed with Kalibr cruise missiles

Seems from what I see the Russian procurement, they want to have fleet of smaller ships with heavy armaments to screen the based while the offensive force will depend on Submarines.

Russia's Black Sea Fleet Completes the First Stage of its Modernization - Naval News

The Black Sea fleet is actively developing into a self-sufficient and balanced force.

www.navalnews.com

Their Corvettes will be the mainstay of surface ships. Thus the role of surface ships more on securing the sea lines surrounding their bases, and securing safety of the submarines leaving the bases. This especially in the condition against peer to peer adversaries and not against smaller opponents.

Hope @Feanor can correct me on this assessment.

The article is very vague and seems to think that small missile ships and patrol ships are all corvettes. The 21631s are basically just a carrier for 8 UKSK cells with minimal armament and unimpressive seaworthiness. The 22160s are patrol boats whose only armament is a 76mm gun. They have room to install a module with additional armament which means they can theoretically be fitted out for anti-ship, land attack, anti-air, or even anti-sub warfare. But only the first two modules currently exist, and none have been procured by the VMF. Only the 20380s are actual multi-role corvettes of which the BSF is currently set to receive 2. I'm also not sure about them receiving 22350 frigates. Currently there are only two completed ships, with 4 more under construction and 2 more to be laid down this year. If we grant completion of all 8 this decade (which is plausible though not a certainty) then I suspect half would go to the Northern Fleet and half to the Pacific. And this wouldn't even be enough to re-arm those two fleets, they would each still likely retain upgraded Soviet era destroyers (1155Ms).

Overall the future structure of the BSF currently looks like this;

1 1164 cruiser
3 11356 frigates
2 20380 corvettes
6 636.3 subs
6 22160 patrol boats
4+ 21631 small missile ships
0+ 22800 small missile ships

I suspect some of the smaller Soviet era warships will be retained for some time yet. And of course the fleet will retain 5+ BDKs, to be eventually replaced by something (though what is a bit of a mystery, some suggest that the 11711 upgraded will be mass produced to replace the bulk of them, I'm not quite so optimistic).

Yama · May 22, 2020

SolarWind said:
Apparently Ushakov is beyond repair, while decision on Lazarev is linked to expediency and availability of funds.

Interesting. Years ago I heard that Lazarev is actually in worst shape of the bunch. It went through paintjob though some years ago so at least in that point idea of modernization was not completely ruled out.
If Lider-project is dead, maybe it'll free funds for modernizing third Kirov. Though, given economic situation in the present, I see it very unlikely either of those projects will go forward.

Feanor · May 23, 2020

Some updates.

The contract for two LHDs has been signed. The ship is, according to CAST, a project 23900 landing ship. They appear to be very similar to the Mistrals in design and purpose. They will be built at Zaliv shipyard in Crimea, a choice likely prompted by the need to load up the Crimean yards with orders.

Подписан контракт на два универсальных десантных корабля для ВМФ России

Как сообщило 22 мая 2020 года информационное агентство ТАСС, Министерство обороны Российской Федерации подписало с керченским судостроительным заводом Залив контракт на постройку первых двух российских универсальных десантных кораблей (УДК) на общую сумму около 100 млрд рублей. Об этом…

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Подписан контракт на 2 УДК для ВМФ РФ

Зимой уже анонсировали https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5584555.html постройку двух крупнотоннажных УДК, правда тогда писали о дате закладки кораблей к 9 мая 2020-го года. Теперь уже ТАСС сообщает, что военные официально подписали контракт и вертолетоносцам на отечественном флоте быть.…

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The third 22350 frigate has been launched, the Admiral Golovko. It's planned for acceptance in 2021, though this may slip to 2022. The second, the Kasatonov, is still undergoing acceptance trials which it's set to complete this year.

Спущен на воду фрегат «Адмирал Головко» проекта 22350

22 мая 2020 года на ПАО Судостроительный завод Северная верфь (входит в состав АО Объединенная судостроительная корпорация) в Санкт-Петербурге состоялся спуск на воду строящегося для ВМФ России фрегата Адмирал Головко (заводской номер 923) - третьего…

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Новейший фрегат «Адмирал Головко» спущен на воду в Санкт-Петербурге

Аналогов ему нет в мире, а у нас он уже третий. Дальность плавания 4,5 тысячи морских миль. К берегу экипаж может не возвращаться целый месяц. Главное оружие крылатые ракеты Калибр или гиперзвуковые Цирконы. Традиционную бутылку о борт корабля разбивает…

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There is a statement from the MinDef, Shoygu, claiming that an anti-submarine variant of the Be-200 will be shown at the naval parade in St. Petersburg. To the best of my knowledge there has not been a program for a new maritime patrol aircraft or even for a dedicated new anti-submarine warfare aircraft, so I strongly suspect that we're looking at a cleaned up and possibly upgraded Novella complex (from the Il-38N) mounted on a new aircraft. Either that or the minister mis-spoke. Originally the contract for the Be-200 envisioned 2 firefighting aircraft, and 4 search and rescue with the option for installing fire-fighting equipment. However I wouldn't put it past industrial lobbyists to push through the idea of adapting the plane for anti-submarine warfare use, especially since Russia doesn't currently have a new maritime patrol aircraft. However in my opinion such a project would be a mistake. Russia needs a true maritime patrol aircraft, not a hasty adaptation of already unimpressive systems on an airframe to save the production line of the aircraft.

Противолодочные Бе-200 «Альтаир» представят на параде ВМФ в Петербурге

Один из самолетов Бе-200 был передан ВМФ в феврале текущего года.

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The third 22800 small missile ship from Pella has started trials. It's also the first ship of the type to carry the Pantsyr SAM/AAA module instead of two AK-630 guns. Also the fourth 22800 for the Pacific Fleet is to be laid down this summer. Three are already under construction but none have been handed over to the VMF so far in the East.

Малый ракетный корабль «Одинцово» проекта 22800 вышел на заводские ходовые испытания

Как сообщило 20 мая 2020 года Министерство обороны Российской Федерации, малый ракетный корабль (МРК) Одинцово проекта 22800 (шифр Каракурт), построенный на судостроительном заводе Пелла для Балтийского флота, вышел в Балтийское море для прохождения…

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Малый ракетный корабль "Павловск" будет заложен летом 2020 года

Корабль вооружен крылатыми ракетами "Калибр", рассказал командующий Тихоокеанским флотом адмирал Сергей Авакянц

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Trials of the upgraded 1155M are planned for the second half of this year.

Швартовые испытания фрегата "Маршал Шапошников" начнутся во второй половине года

Теперь он сочетает в себе возможности противолодочного корабля и носителя высокоточных крылатых ракет, сообщил командующий Тихоокеанским флотом адмирал Сергей Авакянц

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Some footage of the Baltic Fleet Forpost UAVs. Squadrons of the type seem to have been formed in the Northern, Pacific, and Baltic Fleets. I can't help but wonder why the Black Sea Fleet is last.

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Experimental exploitation of the Ivan Gren BDK, first vessel of the new project 11711 class is continuing in the north. It's not participating in major exercises, which strongly suggests that problems persist. It seems that a new problem has been discovered and is currently being rectified on the second ship, at which point, if successful, the Ivan Gren will have to undergo similar modifications.

Проблемы "Грена"

. Опытная эксплуатация головного БДК пр. 11711 Иван Грен на Северном флоте продолжается уже полтора года (с 22.10.2018 ссылка 1 ). В данном случае ОЭ подразумевает проверку работы корабельного оборудования (механизмов, систем, устройств и пр.) в условиях Севера ( ссылка 2 ). При…

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Finally the Moskva guided missile cruiser is completing dock repairs in Crimea. The decision to conduct repairs locally instead of sending it for a major upgrade up north, like the Ustinov, strongly suggests that the Moskva will be retired much sooner then the Ustinov, which raises questions. Currently there are no other viable candidates for Black Sea Fleet flagships. Perhaps they are hoping the first LHDs will be ready by then, but the choice is questionable.

РЕМОНТ КРЕЙСЕРА "МОСКВА"

21.04.2020 в рамках плановых мероприятий восстановления технической готовности флагман Черноморского флота ордена Нахимова ГРКР "Москва" был поставлен в сухой док ООО "Морской индустриальный комплекс" в Севастополе. В течении нескольких недель специалисты предприятия с привлечением сил 13 СРЗ МО РФ…

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Spacearrow99 · May 25, 2020

Americans are developing and procuring various hypersonic weapon programs like China and Russia. 23560 is going to get because unlike the 22350, the 23560 will benefit from recent military and civilian projects. The S-500 will not go into production until 2025, so my end of decade start of building for 23560 is correct.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1262335793508556800

New Russian icebreakers will use HEU fuel

Despite the earlier plans to use LEU fuel in reactors that will power its new icebreakers, Russia has apparently decided to develop HEU fuel for these reactors. The "integrated propulsion unit" with a nuclear reactor, known as RITM-200, was developed...

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I have seen atleast one article of Adm.Nakhimov being the only major upgraded Kirov. The Peter the Great will not get partial upgrade of its engines and electronics. A.Krivoruchko statement about Tsirkon carriers confirms that article premiss.

Zaliv got Russian the LHD contract because of botched pace Severnaya Verf modernization. There numerous articles about being the favorites for LHD contract. Zaliv would get much work anyway. They would be my favorites for potential 23482 contracts since they're already building large auxiliary ships for the Russian Navy.

Sandhi Yudha · May 26, 2020

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Spacearrow99 said:
Americans are developing and procuring various hypersonic weapon programs like China and Russia. 23560 is going to get because unlike the 22350, the 23560 will benefit from recent military and civilian projects. The S-500 will not go into production until 2025, so my end of decade start of building for 23560 is correct.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1262335793508556800

New Russian icebreakers will use HEU fuel

Despite the earlier plans to use LEU fuel in reactors that will power its new icebreakers, Russia has apparently decided to develop HEU fuel for these reactors. The "integrated propulsion unit" with a nuclear reactor, known as RITM-200, was developed...

fissilematerials.org

I have seen atleast one article of Adm.Nakhimov being the only major upgraded Kirov. The Peter the Great will not get partial upgrade of its engines and electronics. A.Krivoruchko statement about Tsirkon carriers confirms that article premiss.

Zaliv got Russian the LHD contract because of botched pace Severnaya Verf modernization. There numerous articles about being the favorites for LHD contract. Zaliv would get much work anyway. They would be my favorites for potential 23482 contracts since they're already building large auxiliary ships for the Russian Navy.

Is there a reason why Pyotr Velikiy will not get an upgrade on its engines and electronics? Is it already advanced and modern enough that a heavy upgrade is not necassary? If the upgrade from Admiral Nakhimov is finished 5 years from now, then the Pyotr Velikiy will probably need newer and improved weapon systems, and that means also mew electronics/fire control systems.

Feanor · May 26, 2020

Sandhi Yudha said:
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Is there a reason why Pyotr Velikiy will not get an upgrade on its engines and electronics? Is it already advanced and modern enough that a heavy upgrade is not necassary? If the upgrade from Admiral Nakhimov is finished 5 years from now, then the Pyotr Velikiy will probably need newer and improved weapon systems, and that means also mew electronics/fire control systems.

The Nakhimov upgrade took longer and cost more then originally anticipated. It's an open question whether the Petr Velikiy will get the same treatment, and likely depends on the state of OKR Lider over the next few years, but there's a definite possibility that it won't get upgraded.

EDIT: Consider this: yards are now able to consistently deliver relatively modern corvettes and frigates. The VMF could have a new corvette every year, a frigate ever other year over the next decade, if money is available. This might be a whole lot better then sinking mountains of cash into refitting a second Kirov.

ngatimozart · May 29, 2020

The VMF Pacific Fleet is getting 15 new ships this year Russia's Pacific fleet to get 15 new vessels in 2020 - Naval News. They will mostly comprise of warships, submarines, and supply ships. The intention is grow the Pacific Fleet into a large blue and green water fleet by the end of the decade, with firepower that will greatly exceed that of the Soviet Pacific Fleet at its peak.

Sandhi Yudha · Jun 1, 2020

From which i understand the Knyaz Vladimir was recently commissioned on 28-05-2020. Knyaz Vladimir is the fourth of the Project 955 class, and will be the second of this class joining Russia's Northern Fleer.

Original article.

Подводную лодку "Князь Владимир" передали ВМФ РФ

Подписание приемного акта ракетного подводного крейсера состоялось на "Севмаше"

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English version.

160 Nuclear Warheads Onboard: Russian Navy Receives Latest Borei-A Class Strategic Missile Submarine

The Russian Navy has received the last Borei-A Class strategic nuclear submarine from the United Shipbuilding Corporation, with the warship Knyaz Vladimir set to enter

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Sandhi Yudha · Jun 10, 2020

Remarkable, i thought it wasn't even launched yet, the K-564 Arkhangelsk.

According to news published by the Russian press agency TASS on June 10, 2020, the Russian Navy Northern fleet is preparing to accept the cruise missile submarine Arkhangelsk latest Yasen-M-class SSGN (Ship Submersible Guided Nuclear) of project 885M. The commander will be appointed by the end of the year and the crew formed. The submarine is to join a division of the Russian Navy Northern fleet.

Source: Russian Navy Northern fleet prepares to accept Arkhangelsk Yasen-M cruise missile submarine

Feanor · Jun 11, 2020

Sandhi Yudha said:
Remarkable, i thought it wasn't even launched yet, the K-564 Arkhangelsk.

According to news published by the Russian press agency TASS on June 10, 2020, the Russian Navy Northern fleet is preparing to accept the cruise missile submarine Arkhangelsk latest Yasen-M-class SSGN (Ship Submersible Guided Nuclear) of project 885M. The commander will be appointed by the end of the year and the crew formed. The submarine is to join a division of the Russian Navy Northern fleet.

Source: Russian Navy Northern fleet prepares to accept Arkhangelsk Yasen-M cruise missile submarine

They're getting ahead of themselves. Even the Kazan acceptance is delayed until next year with state trials only starting in the fall. It appears to be connected to Tsirkon tests on the new type, but I strongly suspect the Arkhangel'sk will be delayed as well.

Сдача атомного подводного крейсера «Казань», видимо, произойдет только в 2021 году

Газета Известия в материале Алексея Рамма и Богдана Степового Сдать Казань: новейшую подводную лодку готовят к госиспытаниям. Субмарина проекта Ясень-М станет носителем гиперзвуковых ракет Циркон , сообщает, что Государственные…

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According to navy-korabel, whom I trust since he spends quite a lot of time tracking these things, the Arkhangel'sk hasn't been launched as of June 1st, and in the build order it's behind the Kazan', Novosibirsk, and Krasnoyarsk. I would put my money on TASS making a mistake in which sub they're talking about.

Russian Navy Northern fleet prepares to accept Arkhangelsk Yasen-M cru

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SolarWind · Jun 16, 2020

Feanor said:
The Nakhimov upgrade took longer and cost more then originally anticipated. It's an open question whether the Petr Velikiy will get the same treatment, and likely depends on the state of OKR Lider over the next few years, but there's a definite possibility that it won't get upgraded.

EDIT: Consider this: yards are now able to consistently deliver relatively modern corvettes and frigates. The VMF could have a new corvette every year, a frigate ever other year over the next decade, if money is available. This might be a whole lot better then sinking mountains of cash into refitting a second Kirov.

It is likely the VMF would want to test the Nakhimov upgrade before committing for the same on other Kirovs, especially given the cost of the refit and time it is taking. Peter-the-Great might not require extensive repairs and could even be sufficiently armed as is. If all the Nakhimov upgrades end up being successful, they could then consider installing the same on PtG and/or refitting Lazarev and adding another upgraded Kirov to the fleet. Availability of funds and resources is also an important consideration here. The VMF published a naval construction plan some time ago that linked the level of their warship building ambitions with oil prices. And oil prices have recently been near historic lows and are still low, so the VMF could be operating on their low funds plan.

Edit: It is also possible that, unlike on earlier Kirovs, the S-300FM that is installed on PtG could be upgradeable to carry more modern missiles from the S-400. So the Nakhimov style upgrade might not even be optimal for PtG.

Feanor · Jun 16, 2020

SolarWind said:
It is likely the VMF would want to test the Nakhimov upgrade before committing for the same on other Kirovs, especially given the cost of the refit and time it is taking. Peter-the-Great might not require extensive repairs and could even be sufficiently armed as is. If all the Nakhimov upgrades end up being successful, they could then consider installing the same on PtG and/or refitting Lazarev and adding another upgraded Kirov to the fleet. Availability of funds and resources is also an important consideration here. The VMF published a naval construction plan some time ago that linked the level of their warship building ambitions with oil prices. And oil prices have recently been near historic lows and are still low, so the VMF could be operating on their low funds plan.

Edit: It is also possible that, unlike on earlier Kirovs, the S-300FM that is installed on PtG could be upgradeable to carry more modern missiles from the S-400. So the Nakhimov style upgrade might not even be optimal for PtG.

They're definitely not upgrading other Kirovs. Peter the Great is the only other ship considered for upgrades and even that's up the in air at this time. I suspect that if they're producing modern warships at a decent pace, they will likely not want to upgrade Peter the Great.

Sandhi Yudha · Jun 28, 2020

I just found a website with some unique and interesting Project 21631 Buyan-M exterior and interior photos. Really good and detailed quality photos.

Project 21631: Buyan-M missile ship - Page 8

Why are the sterns painted black? The exhausts are on the sides -> black hides diesel soot stains.

www.russiadefence.net

SolarWind · Jun 30, 2020

Крейсер "Адмирал Нахимов" передадут ВМФ в 2022 году

Атомный ракетный крейсер "Адмирал Нахимов" (проект 1144.2) будет передан ВМФ России в 2022 году, сообщил РИА Новости в понедельник глава Объединенной... РИА Новости, 29.06.2020

ria.ru

The OSK (United Shipbuilding Corporation) is planning to deliver Nakhimov to the VMF in 2022.
According to a high-ranking Ministry of Defense official, the Nakhimov will operate Fort-M and Pantsir-M, as well as Zirkon. For the anti-sub role it will get Paket-NK and "Otvet" (Answer). I have never seen anything about this "Otvet". Any ideas what it is?

Feanor · Jul 1, 2020

SolarWind said:
Крейсер "Адмирал Нахимов" передадут ВМФ в 2022 году

Атомный ракетный крейсер "Адмирал Нахимов" (проект 1144.2) будет передан ВМФ России в 2022 году, сообщил РИА Новости в понедельник глава Объединенной... РИА Новости, 29.06.2020

ria.ru

The OSK (United Shipbuilding Corporation) is planning to deliver Nakhimov to the VMF in 2022.
According to a high-ranking Ministry of Defense official, the Nakhimov will operate Fort-M and Pantsir-M, as well as Zirkon. For the anti-sub role it will get Paket-NK and "Otvet" (Answer). I have never seen anything about this "Otvet". Any ideas what it is?

It's likely a new version of the 91R anti-submarine missile. It's based on the Kalibr munition and carried in the same UKSK cells. Some sources seem to indicate that Otvet is an upgraded version of that munition, or that it features additional elements carried on the ship.

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