Russian Navy Discussions and Updates
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Putin: no need for Cuban, Venezuelan bases
How about bases in Vietnam? I heard some time ago that they were mulling getting Camh Ranh rights.
How about bases in Vietnam? I heard some time ago that they were mulling getting Camh Ranh rights.
A Russian SAG, composed of the carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and Udaloy-I destroyer Admiral Levchenko along with two support vessels, is underway to the med!
The SAG left local waters on friday and I estimate they will make a transit along the Norwegian coast, into the atlantic west of the UK, and straight to the med. This based on their deployment one year ago.
Lets see if they start flight ops in the middle of oil riggs in the North Sea like they did last time, resulting in the civil flight authority halting helicopter traffic to and from the installations
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Last year the SAG concisted of two Udaloys, so why only one this time? Do they have support beneath the waves in form of a submarine??
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13346172&PageNum=0
The SAG left local waters on friday and I estimate they will make a transit along the Norwegian coast, into the atlantic west of the UK, and straight to the med. This based on their deployment one year ago.
Lets see if they start flight ops in the middle of oil riggs in the North Sea like they did last time, resulting in the civil flight authority halting helicopter traffic to and from the installations
nfloorl:Last year the SAG concisted of two Udaloys, so why only one this time? Do they have support beneath the waves in form of a submarine??
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13346172&PageNum=0
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It could have something to do with the price tag of simultaneously deploying the Petr Velikiy and Admiral Chalabenko to Venezuela, and the Kuznetsov and Admiral Levchenko to the Mediterranean. Then we also have the Neustrashimiy near the Gulf of Aden. All on a rather limited budget, and logistics base.
Whilst that makes perfect sense, it seems unbelievable for a navy the size and caliber as Russia, especially as it strives to expand it's presence worldwide.
As a matter of curiousity, are Russian Navy crews paid extra for overseas deployments? Brazilian military personnel are handsomely paid extra (by law) for any deployments outside of their national territory, a factor in their overseas planning.
I do believe they are, as there is a pay increase associated with deployments outside of Russia. However perhaps not funding, but the logistical issue of (after many years of disuse) deploying multiple large surface warships to quite distant locations. After all the Petr Velikiy didn't bring a tugboat with it for nothing.
Medvedev told the crew of Adm. Kuznetsov that they'll soon decide on extra pay for long at-sea deployments- I have seen the video.
Yes, undoubtedly, as last time, there was at least one submarine along, as with Peter The Great now. As for just 1 Udaloy this time, it could also be that the BSF will send 1 or 2 more ships to the Med. to meet them.
Yes, undoubtedly, as last time, there was at least one submarine along, as with Peter The Great now. As for just 1 Udaloy this time, it could also be that the BSF will send 1 or 2 more ships to the Med. to meet them.
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Russian Pacific Fleet Task Force to Indian Ocean
A Russian task force is due leave Vladivostok in the next few days for the Indian Ocean for exercises with India, INDRA-2009, in January.
Composition of the task force is the Udaloy class DDG Admiral Vinogradov, two tankers, and a tugboat.
Word has it that the Admiral Vinogradov will relieve the Frigate Neustrashimy on Somalia Patrol in late December or early January.
A Russian task force is due leave Vladivostok in the next few days for the Indian Ocean for exercises with India, INDRA-2009, in January.
Composition of the task force is the Udaloy class DDG Admiral Vinogradov, two tankers, and a tugboat.
Word has it that the Admiral Vinogradov will relieve the Frigate Neustrashimy on Somalia Patrol in late December or early January.
Always a Tug.
Must slow down the force to oceanic Tug speeds. Why are there two tankers are the two different types of fuel needed for ships
Doubt it. India has their own bases near by.
One dead in fire on Russian warship - Navy
MOSCOW, December 8 (RIA Novosti) - One naval officer died in a fire on Russia's Baltic Fleet frigate the Neukrotimy (Indomitable) on Monday, a senior Navy official said.
"The body of an officer was discovered during a thorough search of the ship," Captain 1st Rank Igor Dygalo, an aide to the Russian Navy commander, said.
Earlier reports said no one had been hurt in the fire that broke out early on Monday on the frigate anchored at Baltiisk, the Baltic Fleet's main base.
A regional emergencies official said the fire was put out at 14:00 Moscow time (11:00 a.m. GMT).
He said five firefighting teams, including a special firefighting boat, had been involved in extinguishing the fire.
The Baltic Fleet press service said only insignificant damage had been caused to the vessel, while the cause of the fire had yet to be established by a special investigations commission.
Dygalo said the frigate, at the end of its operational life span, was due to be taken out of service, adding there had been no weapons on board the ship when the fire started.
The Krivak-2 Project-1135 Neukrotimy, built in 1978, was damaged in 2005, when a practice mine exploded during rehearsals for Russia's Navy Day, causing a 3-meter hole in the ship's hull and flooding the ship's engine room.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081208/118747597.html
another deadly accident on a Russia vessel and Krivak as well what is it about Russia Naval vessels that seem to create casualty's
MOSCOW, December 8 (RIA Novosti) - One naval officer died in a fire on Russia's Baltic Fleet frigate the Neukrotimy (Indomitable) on Monday, a senior Navy official said.
"The body of an officer was discovered during a thorough search of the ship," Captain 1st Rank Igor Dygalo, an aide to the Russian Navy commander, said.
Earlier reports said no one had been hurt in the fire that broke out early on Monday on the frigate anchored at Baltiisk, the Baltic Fleet's main base.
A regional emergencies official said the fire was put out at 14:00 Moscow time (11:00 a.m. GMT).
He said five firefighting teams, including a special firefighting boat, had been involved in extinguishing the fire.
The Baltic Fleet press service said only insignificant damage had been caused to the vessel, while the cause of the fire had yet to be established by a special investigations commission.
Dygalo said the frigate, at the end of its operational life span, was due to be taken out of service, adding there had been no weapons on board the ship when the fire started.
The Krivak-2 Project-1135 Neukrotimy, built in 1978, was damaged in 2005, when a practice mine exploded during rehearsals for Russia's Navy Day, causing a 3-meter hole in the ship's hull and flooding the ship's engine room.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081208/118747597.html
another deadly accident on a Russia vessel and Krivak as well what is it about Russia Naval vessels that seem to create casualty's
Here's a full review of VMF deployments.
Pacific Fleet: Admiral Vinogradov ASW ship, tankers Butoma and Pechenga, and the tugboat Fotiy Krylov headed for the Indian Ocean, and then the Gulf of Aden. It has a detachment of marines on board. Currently in the Pacific Ocean.
Northern Fleet: Admiral Kuznetsov, Admiral Levchenko large ASW ship (translating designation literally from Russian), and two support boats.
Petr Velikiy, tanker Ivan Bubnov, and tugboat SB-406 were in Venezuela earlier this month, and are presumably now headed back to Russia.
The Admiral Chabanenko has passed through the Panama canal into the Pacific Ocean, following the Venezuelan exercises.
Baltic Fleet: The Neustrashimiy in the Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy duty.
A number of submarines are allegedly deployed but types, numbers and location is secret.
http://lenta.ru/news/2008/12/10/record/
This is an absolute post Soviet record, and includes a rather large number of warships. However it seems that the Navy is operating on the level of individual ships, rather then systemized groups of ships selected for joint operations. While it's definetly a step forward, and gives valuable training to the crews, as well as an opportunity to train with Navies of other nations in joint exercises, as well as giving a chance to work out the logistics of long range deployments, overall this isn't very impressive. If anything it's a sign of how long the road to recovery will be for the VMF, if it ever hopes to become a true blue-water Navy again.
Pacific Fleet: Admiral Vinogradov ASW ship, tankers Butoma and Pechenga, and the tugboat Fotiy Krylov headed for the Indian Ocean, and then the Gulf of Aden. It has a detachment of marines on board. Currently in the Pacific Ocean.
Northern Fleet: Admiral Kuznetsov, Admiral Levchenko large ASW ship (translating designation literally from Russian), and two support boats.
Petr Velikiy, tanker Ivan Bubnov, and tugboat SB-406 were in Venezuela earlier this month, and are presumably now headed back to Russia.
The Admiral Chabanenko has passed through the Panama canal into the Pacific Ocean, following the Venezuelan exercises.
Baltic Fleet: The Neustrashimiy in the Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy duty.
A number of submarines are allegedly deployed but types, numbers and location is secret.
http://lenta.ru/news/2008/12/10/record/
This is an absolute post Soviet record, and includes a rather large number of warships. However it seems that the Navy is operating on the level of individual ships, rather then systemized groups of ships selected for joint operations. While it's definetly a step forward, and gives valuable training to the crews, as well as an opportunity to train with Navies of other nations in joint exercises, as well as giving a chance to work out the logistics of long range deployments, overall this isn't very impressive. If anything it's a sign of how long the road to recovery will be for the VMF, if it ever hopes to become a true blue-water Navy again.
This article sums up the problems that bogged the Bulava. The problem had nothing to do with the guidance, but rather the seawater.
The author's remark "Again and again, the new Bulavas emerged from the ocean at awkward angles, wrecking the accuracy of their ballistic flight trajectory."
explains all that went wrong with the Bulava.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Les...a_Missile_submarine_Program_Part_One_999.html
The author's remark "Again and again, the new Bulavas emerged from the ocean at awkward angles, wrecking the accuracy of their ballistic flight trajectory."
explains all that went wrong with the Bulava.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Les...a_Missile_submarine_Program_Part_One_999.html
Well put Feonor. A few scattered port visits are still away off from sustained deployments. I am sure Russia has the political will to make it happen. Platform acquisitions, logistics and funding could be a different story.